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__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
That's right folks, we have a new front-drive record holder at the Nürburgring. Honda set a lap time of 7 minutes and 43.8 seconds at the famed German racetrack. That puts it a bit over three seconds ahead of the former record holder, the Volkswagen Golf GTI Clubsport S, a super-limited edition, 306-horsepower monster GTI. That also means the Type R is just under three seconds shy of the 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1's record. According to the Type R's lead chassis engineer, the car was capable of such a time thanks to a wider track, longer wheelbase, wider tires, improved suspension, and better aerodynamics than its predecessor.
Honda of course has its own recording of the lap, seen above, to show it isn't lying about the time. The company says the car is representative of a production car, although a few modifications have been made. Honda fitted a roll cage for safety, and it claims that it had no affect on chassis rigidity. It also removed the rear seats and infotainment display to offset the extra weight of the cage. Honda also says the car used "street legal, track-focused tires."
Now before you all start mashing the keyboard to take Honda to task for making these modifications, this is a good time to remember that we shouldn't get wound up over 'Ring times. As we talked about during the Huracán Performante controversy, not only are most times, including the previous VW one, not perfectly impartial and trustworthy since they're performed and recorded by the manufacturer, they're also only a measure of performance in one very specific situation. In short, take these records with a packet of salt, and recognize that a fast car at the 'Ring isn't necessarily a fast car everywhere. That doesn't mean we can't have some fun seeing what cars are quicker at this track, but it does mean that you should save your fury for more worthy causes.
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
Anyone try to get one of these on order at a dealer yet? Wonder how demand and such will affect dealer allocations and markup. Granted its a Civic not a Ferrari but more people can afford a 42k civic than a 400k Ferrari.
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
if anyone is gonna try a fast and furious heist... i think this would be a good candidate
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
__________________ 23+ Honda Civic Type R Hatch (FL5) - O/O 22' Subaru WRX Sport Sedan (VB) - SOLD 19' Audi Q7 Technik SUV (4M) - FC 09' BMW 128I Coupe (E82) - FS 04' BMW M3 Coupe (E46) - SR 17' Acura MDX SUV (YD4) - SOLD 15' Acura RDX SUV (TB4) - SOLD 14' Acura ILX Sedan (DE1) - SOLD 04' Nissan Pathfinder LE SUV (R50) - SOLD 07 Infiniti FX35 SUV (S50) -SOLD 06' BMW 330i Sedan (E90) - SOLD 97' Acura 1.6EL Sedan (MB4) - SOLD 99' Honda Civic Hatch (EJ6) - SOLD 84' Pontiac Sunbird Coupe (J2000) - SOLD
There's no price release from Honda Canada yet (or any other country)
All people can do it at the moment is place a deposit and get on their waiting list
Hope Dealership will honor it.
You lost me a MacPherson front strut suspension. Ha! Anyone buying one should stock up on floor mats. The ITR floor mat craze is serious business for anyone holding inventory.
You lost me a MacPherson front strut suspension. Ha! Anyone buying one should stock up on floor mats. The ITR floor mat craze is serious business for anyone holding inventory.
Haven't all civics been MacPherson front strut since 02?
$33,900 + destination. I suspect it'll be ~40K here?
Honda Canada has previously indicated that the CTR will MSRP somewhere in the $40's. Looking at the starting prices of its competitors (FoRS, STI, Golf R, etc.), I think it'd make little business sense if Honda prices it anywhere above $41k.
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Haven't all civics been MacPherson front strut since 02?
Since 01, actually. The 6th gen's last model year was 2000. The 7th gen's first model year is 01.
Honda Canada has previously indicated that the CTR will MSRP somewhere in the $40's. Looking at the starting prices of its competitors (FoRS, STI, Golf R, etc.), I think it'd make little business sense if Honda prices it anywhere above $41k.
They undercut the competition down south, so they'll probably do the same here.
I understand they're different cars for different markets, but when I got my Touring Sedan, the Canadian price was only like $500 more than the USD version down south.
I paid ~28K CAD for mine, and the same car was ~27K USD down south. The Americans were pretty upset haha
My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
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Originally Posted by white rocket
You lost me a MacPherson front strut suspension. Ha! Anyone buying one should stock up on floor mats. The ITR floor mat craze is serious business for anyone holding inventory.
What's wrong with Nanny Mcphee suspension? Porsche seems to be doing ok with them. Well, I guess engine placement makes a difference...