is there a point in having more than 300 ponies/ 300 tq on a FWD platform?

I mean Kpro on the DC5 made sense but now the CTR has turbo pushing the full torque at 2.5k

For bragging rights, for that Ring time record. I mean, if you can do it, why not?

Also, it seems like with the relocated kingpin setup, torque steer has been very effectively kept in check. So as long as you slap some sticky tires on, why not?

The thing that really surprised is those 20" wheels. I mean... holy... Surely some 19" compatible caliper would be enough? Even a regular 911 come standard with 19's. It isn't until a Carrera S where you get 20" wheels standard. Replacing those tires are gonna HURT!

Let's hope not! an example would be the current civic.

In US - Civic Hatch starts at 19k USD = 26 CDN
But the actually starting price in Canada is 21k CDN.

I think the only reason they went fwd is to make it easier to shatter the ring record. If they went AWD they would have zero bragging rights as they wouldn't be able to say squat about the performance in such a fierce category. Sure there's heritage in fwd blah blah blah I didn't see any of that heritage carried over in the new nsx. Why would they gave a rats ass with the CTR

We are all gearheads for the most part, so the quest for more power is always there. Especially with turbo from factory its way easier to extract HP compared to NA. Point wise, I think it just depends on your application.

if you already have the fastest production car in its layout....i would just enjoy it as a turn-key the way the engineers have fine-tuned the balance

Type Rs are a less-is-more type of beast...KISS

see how many ITR owners are restoring their vehicles back to factory specs...oh wait it's mainly for resale value :ilied:

Honda Wants More Powerful Civic Type R - Motor Trend
I like civic typeR with awd

Yea I do think they wanna break that FWD record.

Also, Honda seems to like to do things a little differently than others with its sporty offerings. When the Nissan Silvia was a turbocharged RWD coupe, Honda made a FWD machine with a high revving engine. For convertibles, when others were making 6 cylinder models, Honda came out with the S2000 with a high revving 2.0L engine. For the new NSX, it's the first one in its segment to have a hybrid powertrain.

Saw a video that showed the MSRP is: $42,485.00

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...pslcihypsu.png

Nice find!

The 42.5K price is right in line with my expectation.

Would a 42k A4 / 3 series be faster than the type r?

It might be but the Type R will be more rare and have the potential to go up in value.

You can't even get a new 3 series for $42K on BMW.ca (plus to get a 6-speed, you're well over $50k)

$42K A4 is 252 hp, larger, heavier. Nowhere close to being as fast as a CTR.

Wowowoy you can't even get a 3 series for 42k now ?!? That's nuts.

Starting price is $45K for an auto 320i

Someone already crashed one.
http://i67.tinypic.com/2coiiz4.jpg

Wow lol didn't realize the 3 series costs that much money even for a base 320i. Damn...

I'd imagine the A4 2.0T Quattro with launch control would beat the CTR for 0-60mph. From a roll I think the CTR would have no trouble beating the A4 though. The CTR after all makes 290-300whp at 3100lb. The B9 A4 probably puts down 230whp at almost 3700lb.

That's the biggest rip off in the world !!! A 320 auto for 45k!?! They charging 10k for just the roundel now ?

I dunno why you'd compare it with a base 3 series of a4.

I couldn't see myself taking a ctr over a golf r, sti, or focus rs though. Hopefully they make a shawd version and it would spank all those cars

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Haha, ya, normally if you want a luxury compact sedan, you probably wouldn't be interested in a hot hatch based on a economy compact sedan. I'm guessing the person who asked this question has a set budget and wanna see what he should get if performance is important.

The CTR as-is would probably spank all those cars on a track based on the current first drive reviews, nurburgring record, and FK2 Type R tests. I guess we will know more when the reviewers start doing actual comparo tests.

Motor Trend did have a quick summary though:
2017 Honda Civic Type R Review: Driving the Most Powerful U.S. Honda Ever - Motor Trend

http://www.civictyper.org/images/ek9.jpg

the only CTR in my heart.

I know but you're saying but I totally get the comparison. I'd almost always rather get the top spec lower model car with all the accessories over a base model higher end car.

I'm not sure if it's the same nowadays, but I always hated getting into a lower optioned car and seeing all the blanked off plates for switches you don't get (fog lights, sunroof, whatever)

you don't fancy the 4-door NSX-R?

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