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$78k for a Model 3??? People have lost their minds.
Quite frankly though, isn't this like an industry trend?
I remember back in 2001 when I was a freshman in college, with 30k USD (45k CAD), I had a lot of car choices and if I was willing to go 50K USD (75K), I was balling out of control.
Today a 30k or even 50K USD (or equivalent in CAD) gets you nothing. A loaded freaking Odyssey is 50k CAD+.
Not sure where it started... but the "starting" price of the manufacturer is pointless. A starting price is literally dry of anything decent. And they bundle the options... so, you can't cherry-pick options you want. You either go bundled together with a whole bunch of things or you ain't getting it.
Tesla just took it to the whole extreme. Starting config doesn't exist. There's not a single Tesla 3 without extended battery or any "options" from factory on road.
so you wouldn't want a 3.7 second car that you don't have to fill up with gas anymore?
I think if you have 78k to throw at for a car, the latter is only a side-line consideration.
for 78k, I would expect a car to have better build quality and design, of which I personally think the Tesla 3 falls short of. Heck, I would rather use 78k to get a new Genesis sedan and feel like a Korean drama CEO.
Quite frankly though, isn't this like an industry trend?
I remember back in 2001 when I was a freshman in college, with 30k USD (45k CAD), I had a lot of car choices and if I was willing to go 50K USD (75K), I was balling out of control.
Today a 30k or even 50K USD (or equivalent in CAD) gets you nothing. A loaded freaking Odyssey is 50k CAD+.
Not sure where it started... but the "starting" price of the manufacturer is pointless. A starting price is literally dry of anything decent. And they bundle the options... so, you can't cherry-pick options you want. You either go bundled together with a whole bunch of things or you ain't getting it.
Tesla just took it to the whole extreme. Starting config doesn't exist. There's not a single Tesla 3 without extended battery or any "options" from factory on road.
Cars are actually getting cheaper when adjusted for inflation. A Corolla started at $15,625 back in 2001. Add inflation and it's 21,325.58 for the same car today. That's about $500 short of today's top of the line Corolla. Corollas start at $16,790 now.
But yeah, aside from Hyundai, base cars are pretty bare bone. When I bought my Sonata, my options were engine/NAV/sunroof. My Genesis didn't even have options for the 5.0L. If you wanted that engine, you got everything else.
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That survey is to be taken with a grain of salt though, it's about how satisfied you are with your purchase... and whether your choice is boring or derivative weighs heavily on the emotions involved in that feeling.
Also, what group of people are more smug and self-satisfied than electric car owners in general? They wouldn't admit being dissatisfied with their Tesla even if it spent half the 3 years in warranty repair.
i mean tesla is still an american car manufacturer. consumer reports put the model x in the top 10 least reliable cars...
Yeah, i've heard the X is a nice vehicle but is/was quite prone to having issues. Being someone who has a Model 3 on order, ive seen far more positive reviews/comments on the 3 than negative. Take that for what you will.
Two family friends have the Taycan on pre-order. Interested to see the end product, and also hopefully drive one of them lol
I read taycan, reminds me of lil'tay
I look at the car, it reminds me of lil'tays mom
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Not sure where it started... but the "starting" price of the manufacturer is pointless. A starting price is literally dry of anything decent. And they bundle the options... so, you can't cherry-pick options you want. You either go bundled together with a whole bunch of things or you ain't getting it.
What are you talking about, the base model of most vehicles now come with the same equipment a loaded model had a couple decades ago. A Corolla now comes standard with cabin filter, backup camera, bluetooth, automatic lights, bajillion input touchscreen stereo, power windows, power locks, keyless entry, exterior temp, radar cruise control, and a truckload of airbags. Aside from A/C all the stuff you can add with higher trim levels or option packages is a lot less useful.
Maybe other manufacturers are different but I remember when the base model had manual locks, mirrors, windows, maybe a cassette deck and nothing else.
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Fake take-private bid announced during trading hours before exchange halt.
Funding not-secured announced after trading hours on a Friday.
why?? he legit could've thought saudis and masayoshi could've funded them and now the deal fell apart
now if he traded shares after his announcement, thats another can of worms
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MG1: in fact, a new term needs to make its way into the American dictionary. Trump............ he's such a "Trump" = ultimate insult. Like, "yray, you're such a trump."
bcrdukes yray fucked bcrdukes up the nose
dapperfied yraisis
dapperfied yray so waisis
FastAnna you literally talk out your ass
FastAnna i really cant
FastAnna yray i cant stand you
why?? he legit could've thought saudis and masayoshi could've funded them and now the deal fell apart
now if he traded shares after his announcement, thats another can of worms
Softbank and PIF fund have billions in stake in his competitor.
There's nothing legit about his announcement. Dude's just pumping stock so the convertible bonds automatically convert to equities. He doesn't have to pay coupons that way, probably because they have no cash.
This is the same behavior back when Valeant going bust. After trading hours news bomb at midnight.
anyone notice the glass roofs of teslas have this red tinge in the rain. looks like shit on any colour excpet red
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MG1: in fact, a new term needs to make its way into the American dictionary. Trump............ he's such a "Trump" = ultimate insult. Like, "yray, you're such a trump."
bcrdukes yray fucked bcrdukes up the nose
dapperfied yraisis
dapperfied yray so waisis
FastAnna you literally talk out your ass
FastAnna i really cant
FastAnna yray i cant stand you
Well, I picked up the Tesla today and this thing is awesome. It's going to take a minute to get use to the big display but it's fairly intuitive. Performance is fantastic, having the instant torque is perfect for city or highway driving.
My car was built this month and upon inspection I saw no panel gaps that would give me any reason to be concerned nor did I see any paint issues that made me ask to get them fixed.
Overall, it's a great car that all of you should go test drive and experience yourself rather than regurgitating bullshit that someone on the internet said about it.
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