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Old 03-31-2016, 11:14 PM   #76
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Im sure the design is functional and aerodynamic and everything but it looks so weird. Looks like someone with a nose but no nostrils
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i can't be the only person that thinks affordable RWD with instant torque + vancouver rainy streets means a fucking disaster...i don't even think the best all seasons will save the people that upgrading from their petrol Civic which they're used to flooring...

also i dont like a ipad pro XL sticking out...wish they went with curved OLED flush in the dash. Grilless not the best looking but I think for the price it's really amazing...i really hope Tesla takes off even if the projected reservations will take 4 years from now to deliver
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These ARE just highly detailed concepts right? Wheres the speedometer? Or are they going with full head up display for speed?
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The dash console is an ipad?
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^ its a 15" screen that controls everything.

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the attendees at the reveal are uploading their quick rides in the prototype

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The dash console is an ipad?
something like this from Audi but in the center...then compliment with crucial info like speedo/autopilot/warning indicators as HUD on the windshield. As long as it's flush and clean and not sticking out like almost every current design from major manufacturers.


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The 15" screen is way too big for that cabin, and no behind the steering wheel instrument cluster... I guess that's acceptable for 35k.
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i know it's just a prototype, but wow those headlights are useless...
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I am not sure what you guys are expecting for a car 1/3 of the price of a Model S??? I think Tesla is revolutionizing the automobile. He is not following the traditional concept of car making. He is creating the automobile like a giant mobile tech device. When is the last time you have seen line ups to a buy a car. The fact 115,000 people put deposits down for a Tesla 3 is quite amazing. Let's face it Tesla is not a car for the enthusiasts. It is at best the daily driver car for the car enthusiast.
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I personally think it hit all my expectations. Looks great.
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I am not sure what you guys are expecting for a car 1/3 of the price of a Model S??? I think Tesla is revolutionizing the automobile. He is not following the traditional concept of car making. He is creating the automobile like a giant mobile tech device. When is the last time you have seen line ups to a buy a car. The fact 115,000 people put deposits down for a Tesla 3 is quite amazing. Let's face it Tesla is not a car for the enthusiasts. It is at best the daily driver car for the car enthusiast.
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I am not sure what you guys are expecting for a car 1/3 of the price of a Model S??? I think Tesla is revolutionizing the automobile. He is not following the traditional concept of car making. He is creating the automobile like a giant mobile tech device. When is the last time you have seen line ups to a buy a car. The fact 115,000 people put deposits down for a Tesla 3 is quite amazing. Let's face it Tesla is not a car for the enthusiasts. It is at best the daily driver car for the car enthusiast.
Sure but it just looks so.. unfinished. It's still a $35,000 car, but looks like it was built in some engineer's garage as a side project, using an ipad as the center console...

It just looks weird. Everything else about it is amazing.
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^ I don't disagree with you SkinnyPupp, but you are commenting from a car enthusiasts standpoint. I think most buyers will be the early adopters who want the latest gadget, just like the newest mac book, Iphone, flat screen TV. I bet most buyers will not even care too much about the driving dynamics.

I would take the Tesla 3 any day of the week over a Prius. It is hard to put a price tag on the kool factor.
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Sure but it just looks so.. unfinished. It's still a $35,000 car, but looks like it was built in some engineer's garage as a side project, using an ipad as the center console...

It just looks weird. Everything else about it is amazing.

does anyone know if this is the "final" design? will there be changes/revisions before production starts late 2017?
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^ I don't disagree with you SkinnyPupp, but you are commenting from a car enthusiasts standpoint. I think most buyers will be the early adopters who want the latest gadget, just like the newest mac book, Iphone, flat screen TV. I bet most buyers will not even care too much about the driving dynamics.

I would take the Tesla 3 any day of the week over a Prius. It is hard to put a price tag on the kool factor.
I think it matters even more to non car people. They don't necessarily notice the fine details, but a design means quite a bit to the every day buyer. Of course there is enough hype that people are losing their minds getting these, so I guess it doesn't matter
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does anyone know if this is the "final" design? will there be changes/revisions before production starts late 2017?
There will be changes. These are prototypes right now.
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I doubt it matters, with the hype behind it and I bet there will be huge waiting lists just to get it creating more hype, this will be the iPhone of cars.

As boring as the interior looks, a huge touchscreen is still "cooler" than plastic buttons to a lot of people.
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jalopnik is bitching about the trunk not being a hatch...

This Is The Tesla Model 3's Biggest Design Fail
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Hat tip to Tesla. Proof that you can make a tree-hugger-car cool and fast. Toyota, Nissan and GM can fire their EV product design team.

Uni-display panel is great. Less part to go wrong and helps keeps price (and maintenance cost) down. Also more room for everything. Can't wait to see the ugly Prius gets less presence.

I would love if interior gets simplified everywhere among auto manufacturer. You can haul more around (stuffs and people) without building massive fat and ugly ass vehicles.
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Hat tip to Tesla. Proof that you can make a tree-hugger-car cool and fast. Toyota, Nissan and GM can fire their EV product design team.

Uni-display panel is great. Less part to go wrong and helps keeps price (and maintenance cost) down. Also more room for everything. Can't wait to see the ugly Prius gets less presence.

I would love if interior gets simplified everywhere. You can haul more around (stuffs and people) without building massive fat and ugly ass vehicle.
but if that display takes a crap, you would lose everything...
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speaking to one of the reps in-store today the chassis will be partial aluminum
many firsts here for an affordable car...wiki suggests they need to ship 0.5M units to even be profitable

I know the pano roof is optional...hope they make it with an adjustment switch (0-100% variable tint)
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