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Old 02-15-2016, 01:38 PM   #26
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I think it's distortion from a wide angle lens
Here's another angle. I can understand people not liking it though. I prefer it in the low position.
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LTW, CSL OR GTS. The goal at BMW M is always to make the cars fast. It's all about function over form and people usually grow to like thesee cars after they find out how well they handle and how special they really are.
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eh... 80kg lighter, 75more hp, no backseat, liquid cooling, automatic transmission... automatic... auto... 3X+? the price of an M4



I could see buying it simply because it's limited, in hopes that it'll go up in value... other than that meh
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eh... 80kg lighter, 100more hp, no backseat, liquid cooling, automatic transmission... automatic... auto... 3X+? the price of an M4



I could see buying it simply because it's limited, in hopes that it'll go up in value... other than that meh
-Stock m4 is 425hp and the gts is 493hp. So it's +68hp
-Base model m4 is $76,000 plus $3,900 for DCT and $8,500 for ccb. So it's around 40% more in price.
- no backseat because a roll bar is installed. The clubsport package in europe is optional. So a backseat is avaliable in europe, but I don't see many ppl not taking the clubsport package.
- it's a DCT and not a regular automatic.

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-Stock m4 is 431hp and the gts is 493hp. So it's +62hp
-Base model m4 is $76,000 plus $3,900 for DCT and $8,500 for ccb. So it's around 40% more in price.
- no backseat because a roll bar is installed. The clubsport package in europe is optional. So a backseat is avaliable in europe, but I don't see many ppl not taking the clubsport package.
- it's a DCT and not a regular automatic.
I read that it's $160k USD? so assumed it'd be around 225k here, 40% more isn't too egregious
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I read that it's $160k USD? so assumed it'd be around 225k here, 40% more isn't too egregious
The M4 GTS is $134k in the US and $153k here in Canada. Clubsport package is standard and included.
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seems like a good deal, comparable to the GT3 afterall.
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seems like a good deal, comparable to the GT3 afterall.
Maybe on paper but I would want the GT3 100x more than the BMW...
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Maybe on paper but I would want the GT3 100x more than the BMW...
ditto.

but nice thing is, both hold value or would go up in value.


all depends on preference really, but the GTS itself is an even more exclusive car.

one does not simply walk into a dealer and buy a GTS. (unlike the GT3) thats what makes it a bit special.
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They need to put more effort on that wing, looks out of place. Otherwise, it's sick.
that's what i thought when I first saw pics of the E92 GTS,
but it didn't take long for it to grow on me.

The combination of the front lip and rear wing look great on both gen's of GTS in my opinion..

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I still think the E92 M3 is a better looking car than the M4... The M4 just looks too big and bloated.
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I still think the E92 M3 is a better looking car than the M4... The M4 just looks too big and bloated.
E30 M3s, E46 M3s, and E92 M3s will always be my favorite in terms of timeless body designs
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ditto.

but nice thing is, both hold value or would go up in value.


all depends on preference really, but the GTS itself is an even more exclusive car.

one does not simply walk into a dealer and buy a GTS. (unlike the GT3) thats what makes it a bit special.
991 GT3s are dropping like rock since the RS came out....GT3s were selling for $180K to $190K in the summer of 2015, you can pick a really low km example for $160K now.
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991 GT3s are dropping like rock since the RS came out....GT3s were selling for $180K to $190K in the summer of 2015, you can pick a really low km example for $160K now.
thats a fantastic thing. slightly closer to reach for mere mortals like me


next GT3 may have turbos at this rate, seeing how car manufacturers are going.... so we should all enjoy some NA bliss while we still can!


991 GT3 bound to go back up in price!
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^ no I hope they keep dropping in price as well!!!

It will be an interesting shoot out in the used car market in a few year.....the 991 GT3 will be a similar price apt as a MPC-12.......
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yeah... next couple years going to be flooded with lease return exotics............




but im buying a house soon....
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^ So much this...

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That LTW you posted was for sale for 30k last year. Bit of a Frankenstein but fuck me I wanted it.
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I'm currently shopping for a E9X M3... last of a breed and the only one with that dirt nasty V8.
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I'm currently shopping for a E9X M3... last of a breed and the only one with that dirt nasty V8.
Are you selling the NSX, Golf R, or just getting a third car?
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+1 dirty nasty V8............
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Are you selling the NSX, Golf R, or just getting a third car?
First of all, peasant, I have three cars - ITR, NSX, and Golf R.

The return to Van represents a lot of changes in my life, one of them is the idea of owning less and doing more, basically the opposite of being Albertan.

The current thought process is to move DT and sell all the cars, eliminate extra parking, insurance, and modding costs and then just buy an E9X M3, some KW V3's, BBS wheels, PS2's, suede wheel, exhaust, and call it a day.

Ultimately I will have a lot more cash laying around, will be less inclined to work and more inclined to vacation. The last three years for me have been nothing but work, I'm 100% ready to stop giving fucks. My new life will consist mainly of driving down to Cali, and up to Whistler.

...at least until the money runs out, which should be like 3-4 weeks at the rate I spend the shit.


Back on the subject of the thread though, I really don't care for the latest generation of BMW styling cues. Admittedly I felt the same way when Chris Bangel's flame styling was first released, so perhaps these cars will grow on me. The new M4 looks very long, almost too "GT", and the GTS to me is fairly high on the gaudy scale.

For the price, I'll take a 991 GT3 all day over the F80 M4 GTS.
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^ interesting take, Lord Jasonturbo.
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or at least until JT finds his kermit 997 gt3 rs and sells everything for it and goes on an endless roadtrip

but for realsies doe, you just got the nsx
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E92 M3 is a good daily driver because its comfortable but its not that that fun to drive lol. Why because its heavy as fuck. The E46 m3 or even S2k is way more fun to toss around the street than e92 m3. Having driven the 997.2 gt3 rs for a few hours and i can tell you non of the m cars are close to its performance and pure fun factor.

But if you want a comfortable car go for the e92 m3. But personally i will take the f10 M5 or the new x5m if u want a luxury comfortable fast car.
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