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Old 03-11-2016, 07:59 PM   #26
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This guy doesn't add up, and if he sounds like he's lying he probably is. In this case, I would protect yourself by going through ICBC and let this guy deal with his own problems.

He stomped on the brakes, you did everything in your power not to rear end him and he wants 1500 for scratches?

That sound legit to you?
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:35 PM   #27
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Yeah, it's maybe cheaper not to go through ICBC... until he goes to get it fixed and that $800 quote mysteriously turns back into $1500. And then $2500.

Something else to consider: even if you do go for the cash option, still make sure you report it to ICBC... otherwise he could take the cash and then claim hit-and-run, and you'd be double-screwed.

Also, ICBC doesn't care if you opt to deal with him directly even after you both file a claim. Your rates and his depreciation *snicker* are only affected if ICBC has to pay him out. If you want to do cash, tell him to take it to the claim center and get THEIR estimate... then work off that number.
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Thanks so much for the input.

So, I politely told him that I would like to settle through icbc and he wants me to explain why I wouldn't want to do it outside of icbc. He once again is going on about his depreciation.

All of this has been through text. BTW.

What should I tell him to stop babbling and just go through icbc? I don't want to piss him off too much, since he does have my address from my icbc papers.

To tell you the truth I don't care about his depreciation. While I am legally at fault and obliged to pay for any damages, I feel like he shouldn't have slammed the brakes so hard. In my honest opinion, preventing car accidents should be more important than any cat or squirrel that decides to go on the street. I also never saw any cat.
Scammer. I would simply not reply, settle it through ICBC.
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If I had any thought in my mind that he did this on purpose i'd go through icbc and pay a few hundred more rather than let the prick get away with his little 'I saw a cat" scam.
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I talked to my wife and we agreed if you woul pay 500 and we can sign anything you want proving you payed for the accident. Just want to sell the car quick if not we can go through insurance just we will have to wait to sell car.
Wtf... He just texted me this. Now I am starting to doubt any damages that occurred... Icbc it is but, I'll keep you updated.
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Wtf... He just texted me this. Now I am starting to doubt any damages that occurred... Icbc it is but, I'll keep you updated.
He's probably afraid that if he takes it to ICBC, they won't find anything wrong with it, and he won't get squat.

Seriously, he's trying awfully hard to convince you to just fork over cash... methinks he doth protest too much.
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Sound like a scam, inquire also about his pleasure insurance most likely trying to save a few bucks on that also
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What would worry me is if you go through ICBC, he claims injury, and then you can't repay the claim and your rates go up.
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I doubt ICBC will let him claim injury on an accident involving just a scratched bumper.
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If you could barely see the scratches I'd be suspicious of this guys claims, but I'm guessing he'd just pocket the cash and go buy one of the rear bumper covers I can find on car-part for $100. Or more likely, just leave it and go scam someone else.
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I'd even be tempted to forward the texts to ICBC, really put the screws to him.
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I'd do a free consultation with an accident injury lawyer at this point to see what your options are. Perhaps lowballing and getting video evidence of him signing and copies for both of you is a decent option.
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Just go through ICBC.

If he is really injured, he won't tell you $1500 and call it even.
If it's only metal damage, then he just wants cash instead of fixing it.

Politely tell him you are going through ICBC for the protection of both parties. ICBC exist for a reason.


He probably has something to hide. E.g. From incorrect use of vehicle, to suspended license, to driving under influence, based on your story.
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I doubt ICBC will let him claim injury on an accident involving just a scratched bumper.
Doesn't matter how much damage is done. If someone makes an injury claim you cannot pay it out.
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ICBC doesn't pay out for low speed rear enders anymore. He's looking for quick cash and hiding something. Go to ICBC for the luls and report back plz

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From what you described, he could be just fishing for people to rear end him and get some quick cash.
Report to icbc, wouldn't be surprised if he had some kind of records with icbc.
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Doesn't matter how much damage is done. If someone makes an injury claim you cannot pay it out.
I thought it was only if ICBC approves the injury claim, you can not pay it out.

I once rear ended a dude and it was like a 10 km/h accident. I talked to the adjuster when I reported the accident and discussed my options of paying it out since it was so minor I didn't want my insurance to go up. She told me I can pay it out as long as there is no injury claim pay outs.

fast forward I get a call from my adjuster and she mentioned the guy tried to claim an injury for such a small accident. He was denied the injury claim because it was considered a low speed impact. Therefore I was able to pay out the accident.

So when I said I doubt ICBC would approve his injury claim, I'm only speaking from what happened with my incident.
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Exactly! It has to be a significant impact and even then "soft tissue damage" ie. Whiplash payouts are becoming few and far between.

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I talked to my wife and we agreed if you woul pay 500 and we can sign anything you want proving you payed for the accident. Just want to sell the car quick if not we can go through insurance just we will have to wait to sell car.
Wtf... He just texted me this. Now I am starting to doubt any damages that occurred... Icbc it is but, I'll keep you updated.
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also unless things have changed, he probably knows hes going to have to pay a bit.

when i got a hit n run on my bumper icbc was only going to cover the 20% of the bumper that got hit and i had to pay for the remaining 80% of it to basically have a brand new bumper.

Perhaps he's in the situation that while you may have done minor damage, he wants a new bumper or whatever but doesnt want to pay for the damages that were already on it.

I'd do as everyone say and just go through icbc and honestly stop responding to anything he says. If he wants this over with, he'll go to icbc and get it over it, if not he probably wants your $
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Go through with ICBC. Tell the guy he has the option of taking a payout from ICBC as well.
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Wtf... He just texted me this. Now I am starting to doubt any damages that occurred... Icbc it is but, I'll keep you updated.
Isn't this kinda obvious? The kid is low on cash, and needs some money. If you go through ICBC, they simply pay to fix his car. He doesn't give a shit about the scratch, he just wants $500..

What you could do is low ball him like $200 and have him sign documents. This way you'll definitely save some cash. Pretty much say this "If you want, I'll give you $200, or we settle through ICBC, your choice."
When you are signing documents have a witness there, and have the witness sign the stuff also (if you go this route).

Some might think the above is kind of scummy, but I also think it's scummy to do this to you and most likely cause an accident on purpose. Have to use scummy techniques vs scum bags unfortunately lol
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Just go through ICBC and tell them everything. If the guy has a history with them or of causing accidents, you might not have to pay anything at all. Just make sure you tell them about how he was driving before the accident happened and that he's pressuring you to settle outside ICBC for X amount of dollars.
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I don't know this for a fact, but I bet you can both still settle privately after reporting to ICBC. The Civic driver informs his ICBC adjuster he has settled privately with you and there will be no further claim. Your ICBC adjuster will contact you to confirm this is the case. Both parties may still have to sign some paperwork, essentially closing the claim. Now you are protected from further action, and the driver gets his cash payment directly from you.
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if he was driving erratically he was probably already testing you out to see if you're a good scam victim.

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So why not also use this to your advantage?

1. Ask to get quote together from an ICBC shop.
2. Offer to pay him 20% off the quote in cash.
3. If he refuses or is reluctant, ask him what the benefit is for you to settle outside of icbc in cash.
4. After some back and forth, negotiate down to 15% off the quote and say the offer is good for 48 hours.
5. If he accepts, video tape him signing a note saying you settled on the damages lol

In my opinion, if he doesn't give a shit about a few scratches and wants cash, he will accept. Good luck
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