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swiftshift 03-31-2016 08:48 AM

Mount TV on Drywall?
 
Hey guys wondering if anyone has knowledge or has done this themselves..
I came across an article
Mount a Flat Screen TV With Wall Anchors | The Family Handyman

http://www.wikihow.com/Mount-a-Flat-...-TV-on-Drywall

TL/DR; Studs are supposedly not strong enough and too far apart *edit
My family told me that it is not possible to install my TV mount onto a dry wall as it will just fall over time, I am wondering if there are any alternatives?
And if there are what are they, and what is needed (where can you purchase)

EDIT TV : is '42inch Samsung Smart TV - approx 40-45lbs

Thanks very much

Hondaracer 03-31-2016 09:31 AM

What is behind the drywall?

604STIG 03-31-2016 09:32 AM

No studs? What in the world is your drywall attached to?

fliptuner 03-31-2016 09:32 AM

Lol. Get a better stud finder.

m3thods 03-31-2016 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliptuner (Post 8742689)
Lol. Get a better stud finder.

This. I'm not sure how your wall is standing/not sinking/cracking without something holding your drywall up.

As for a stud finder- I've used this to great success:

https://www.amazon.ca/CH-Hanson-0304...ds=stud+finder

Lastly, there's no way I would mount my tv without anchoring the mount to studs. Way too risky.

swiftshift 03-31-2016 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 604STIG (Post 8742688)
No studs? What in the world is your drywall attached to?

EDIT* my apologies, there are studs, I just read articles on dry wall + how houses and walls are constructed.
The studs are just too far off from where I want to have it*
Correction

pherio 03-31-2016 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiftshift (Post 8742661)
TL/DR; I do not have any studs (2x4) in my walls, as it is all dry wall.
My family told me that it is not possible to install my TV mount onto a dry wall as it will just fall over time, I am wondering if there are any alternatives?
And if there are what are they, and what is needed (where can you purchase)

EDIT TV : is '42inch Samsung Smart TV - approx 40-45lbs

Thanks very much

I highly doubt you do not have studs in your wall, gypsum board doesn't magically hold itself up. Only way I would think it would be standing on it's own would be if i was glued to a concrete wall (which would be utterly mental) as you should still have a furring wall in front of it.

*edit: just read your follow-up

Berzerker 03-31-2016 10:11 AM

Ok I'll chime in here. There HAS to be studs on the wall. The wall mount TV brackets allow for the TV to be slid left and right on the bracket by at least 12 inches.
There has to be studs available that will allow you to have the proper anchorage and the ideal placement. You may see part of the bracket after you slide the mount to the proper location but this is easily hidden.

Berz out.

fliptuner 03-31-2016 10:11 AM

You can offset mount the bracket if the studs aren't centered to where you want the TV.

Edit- fuck berz ninja'd

swiftshift 03-31-2016 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berzerker (Post 8742699)
Ok I'll chime in here. There HAS to be studs on the wall. The wall mount TV brackets allow for the TV to be slid left and right on the bracket by at least 12 inches.
There has to be studs available that will allow you to have the proper anchorage and the ideal placement. You may see part of the bracket after you slide the mount to the proper location but this is easily hidden.

Berz out.

Thank you guys, sorry lack of knowledge before I made this post as I asked someone back home if it was possible, they literally said no. I don't have much previous knowledge of home's and structures and how they are built so this thread is also one good for learning, thanks guys.

After I made the post and read some comments, yeah it doesn't make sense.
I notice that the dry wall has to be held up by some sort of frame ( studs/wood)?

Great68 03-31-2016 10:28 AM

Apart from a couple hundred dollar Milwaukee wall scanner, this is the best stud finder I've ever used:

http://www.amazon.com/Precision-Sens.../dp/B00OIHLV3Q

Hondaracer 03-31-2016 10:45 AM

Id recommend paying somone to do it.

Without additional backing even somone like myself with years in the construction industry, I always have my doubts when trying to anchor only onto studs. My living room tv was like $2300 and while the costco mount I bought Is one if the better quality ones I've used, drilling blindy into studs, especially steel studs, I always have my doubts.

As well, unless your going to drop all the wires down the front of the wall, fishing inputs and power can be a real pain. Also, technically you're not suppose to run regular power/extension cables through the wall.

I rewired my living room TV in a code-friendly manner, but for my office I just ran a heavy duty exterior extension cord through the wall, not technically up to par, but nothing will ever happen to it.

m3thods 03-31-2016 03:44 PM

As much as I wanted to mount my own tv, I ended up paying someone to do it. It was either paying the fees, or potentially wrecking my wall. I'm not a handyman by any means but I don't mind using power tools. Aside from that, mounting a tv onto metal studs was above my paygrade.

BrRsn 03-31-2016 04:04 PM

if the studs are too far apart just cut a hole in the drywall, throw in some 2x4's to frame in the area you want to mount the TV. I had to do that to mount a 65" above my fireplace, just take your time and it'll turn out looking fine.

IIRC standard placement of studs is 16 inches apart so I don't see why you wouldn't be able to find a stud

Hondaracer 03-31-2016 07:56 PM

somthing a bit bigger than 2X4, such as a 2X10 etc. would make it a bit easier in terms of positioning.

if you wont be able to see/wont be looking behind the TV, you could simply cut out the drywall between/over the nearest studs, replace whatever thickness the drywall is, either 1/2" or 5/8" with some plywood, screw the shit out of the plywood to the exposed studs, then mount the mount wherever you like

fliptuner 03-31-2016 09:03 PM

Professional install or TV stand.

/thread.

lol

Seriously, if they're wood studs, I wouldn't hesitate to offset mount it, with lag bolts. I have an 8 year old, 60" plasma (read: heavy as fuck) on a full motion mount and it's held no problem, even at full extension. After hanging the mount, before putting the tv on it, I hung off it (~200lbs) just for peace of mind and it was strong like bull.

Jonydakiller 03-31-2016 10:13 PM

i mounted my 55" led, no problem so far!
pretty easy install.
I got the anchors from home depot, don't buy the cheap unbranded stuff.
There is one that is nicely packaged where it stated each anchor is rated over 100lb i think (also depends on the size of the anchor)
punch a hole, put the anchor in, pull as tight as possible , then voila! (ymmv)

underscore 03-31-2016 10:14 PM

The only time you'll find a wall without studs every 16" is if there's a pocket door. We've got one for the bedroom closet so I ran 2 bolts into the one stud and the 4 jumbo drywall anchors the mount came with as close to the pocket door as I could go (also mounting an older 42", basic tilting mount).

I'm not sure why some of you guys are so terrified of mounting it yourself, you just mark the sides of the studs and drill in the middle. I'll trust my own work over the work of somebody willing to come to a job that's literally drilling 4 holes and installing 4 bolts.

Marshall Placid 03-31-2016 11:54 PM

I have mounted about 1 x 55'' TV, 2 x monitors, and 1 x 32'' TV over the past 5 years.

For my first TV, I was pretty overwhelmed, but it should be easy.

If you can, mount on studs, not drywall by itself, because 40+ lbs is too heavy.

If you can, get one other person to help you mount or attach the TV onto the mount.

FIRST, attach the mount onto the wall (without the TV).

1- Get a stud finder or borrow one ($40 locally and get one with a "AC" detector to avoid drilling into wires)
2- Find the stud
3- Do step # 2 a few times over just in case
4- mark with a pencil
5- Buy a drill ($40 for a lower end one or the black and decker one) or borrow one from your friend
6- If you really want to, you can buy a level to make sure your TV mount is completely 100% level (borrow or buy one for $20 depending on length).
7- Drill about half an inch (small hole) into your marked places where your mount will be anchored to the studs.
8- Buy a ratchet set ($15 with multiple bit sizes at Rona. There is one for $15 that comes with 40 bits: Brico brand)
9- Use the included anchoring nails (provided by the mount) and hand twist it into the holes until you meet resistance.
10- Now, use your ratchet to securely fasten the anchoring nails into the wall.
11- Repeat on all anchoring nails.
12- Your mount is now done.
13- Now, mount the TV onto the mount, and this is where your other person can help you stabilize and lift the TV while you do the attaching to the mount.


Cost for installion, if you borrow the tools, is just good olde elbow grease.

However, if you buy the tools, they are VERY useful in the future, so there is long-term positive advantages of owning the tools.

Good luck.

Gucci Mane 04-01-2016 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliptuner (Post 8742962)
Professional install or TV stand.

/thread.

lol


this. OP doesn't seem all that handy and honestly whats the point in destroying parts of your home if you dont have too.

i personally prefer tv stands cause i dont have to worry about wire management. lol

underscore 04-01-2016 07:47 AM

One other tip is to mount the wall piece first, then put the TV half up without the TV, so you can see how they're going to hook together before doing it blind with a TV in your hands.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall Placid (Post 8743034)
7- Drill about half an inch (small hole) into your marked places where your mount will be anchored to the studs.

Make sure you drill the right size and depth of hole. You need a drill bit that is the same diameter (or a hair larger) than the shaft of the lag bolts (that's the solid inner shaft, not the threads) and a hole that's deeper than the amount of bolt going into the wall.

Match the drill bit to R in this picture

https://www.boltdepot.com/Images/cha...r-hex-bolt.png

Also drill a pilot hole first, it'll make drilling the full size hole easier.

swiftshift 04-01-2016 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pidish (Post 8743042)
this. OP doesn't seem all that handy and honestly whats the point in destroying parts of your home if you dont have too.

i personally prefer tv stands cause i dont have to worry about wire management. lol

True, I am not the most handy however even after reading up on multiple articles I STILL don't have the guts to to do it myself.
I had a friend come over last night to take a look, said it is do-able so will try getting this done over the weekend..

Will post a picture when done..
Thanks for all the helpful information + discussion from everyone thus far.
:nicethread:

CivicBlues 04-01-2016 09:42 AM

Use these:

Toggler Snaptoggle | Anchor Bolts,Toggle Bolt, Toggle Bolts

I've put them through drywall and it's held up pretty successfully for years now, at least 300 lbs worth of shelving and stuff

Tapioca 04-01-2016 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8742716)
Id recommend paying somone to do it.

Without additional backing even somone like myself with years in the construction industry, I always have my doubts when trying to anchor only onto studs. My living room tv was like $2300 and while the costco mount I bought Is one if the better quality ones I've used, drilling blindy into studs, especially steel studs, I always have my doubts.

As well, unless your going to drop all the wires down the front of the wall, fishing inputs and power can be a real pain. Also, technically you're not suppose to run regular power/extension cables through the wall.

I rewired my living room TV in a code-friendly manner, but for my office I just ran a heavy duty exterior extension cord through the wall, not technically up to par, but nothing will ever happen to it.

When working with steel studs, 2X4 reinforcement is key.

I bought this from Costco when I mounted the TV on the wall: Powerbridge Solutions ONE-CK Cable Management System

Buy code-compliant HDMI cables and any other in-wall compliant cables you need, and you're good to go. They're available at good prices at Monoprice.

You just never know... if something happens (such as a fire), and the TV or your audio equipment is the cause, your insurance company will find a way to not pay out.

Hondaracer 04-01-2016 03:41 PM

Yeap did exactly that with my living room TV. The power bridge system is fantastic for the DIYer, kinda pricey though


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