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06-06-2016, 12:46 PM
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#1 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Hi, just asking for some advice here.
My 06 lancer ralliart timing belt broke.
The mechanic said the camshaft sensor needs to be replaced too.
Long story short,
The quote for this whole fix up is 2200$
Would that be a reasonable price?
or should I just give up on this car?
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06-06-2016, 12:53 PM
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If your timing belt broke you're lucky you didn't destroy your motor, assuming those lancers are an interference motor.
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06-06-2016, 01:01 PM
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Apparently it's already destroyed.
The valves must be replaced.
I'm guessing that's why the hefty bill.
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06-06-2016, 01:06 PM
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Valve being destroyed would imply they met a piston. That would also destroy the piston.
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06-06-2016, 01:18 PM
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#5 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by dared3vil0  Valve being destroyed would imply they met a piston. That would also destroy the piston. | Yes that's possible. Though I haven't looked into it myself. I'm basing what the mechanic is telling me at the moment.
What would you recommend me to do?
But, I'm planning to tow it home from the shop.
I can't afford it right away anyways.
Somehow I don't trust this mechanic.
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06-06-2016, 01:22 PM
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and this is the exact reason why you're supposed to keep up with your maintenance. instead of maybe a $500 or so bill you're now looking at $2200. nice!
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06-06-2016, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pidish and this is the exact reason why you're supposed to keep up with your maintenance. instead of maybe a $500 or so bill you're now looking at $2200. nice! | I did a timing belt change at 150000, it is at 190000 now.
The complete package. Water pump, pulley etc.
Cost me 890$ (I probably got ripped off)
Either the previous mechanic did a poor job or he used bad quality stuff or even worst didn't do any work at all.
It's not so nice to jump to conclusions..
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06-06-2016, 02:01 PM
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Perhaps we're talking about two different things.
The timing belt is usually a metal chain belt inside of the engine, which along with many things, drives the cam shaft(s).
The serpentine belt is a steel enforced hard rubber that is tied to the crank shaft to run many accessory motors, such as A/C compressor, water pump, power steering, and alternator. Quote:
Originally Posted by LightKeeper The complete package. Water pump, pulley etc.
Cost me 890$ (I probably got ripped off) | Based on what you said, perhaps the serpentine belt was changed. If the serpentine belt, water pump, and its pulley were changed, for $890, that was a total rip off.
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Originally Posted by Reeyal Perhaps we're talking about two different things.
The timing belt is usually a metal chain belt inside of the engine, which along with many things, drives the cam shaft(s).
The serpentine belt is a steel enforced hard rubber that is tied to the crank shaft to run many accessory motors, such as A/C compressor, water pump, power steering, and alternator.
Based on what you said, perhaps the serpentine belt was changed. | I for sure requested to do a timing belt change to the mechanic. It even said so on the receipt.
It is possible now the serpentine belt broke?
However, this mechanic is telling me the timing belt broke.
Will it damage the same parts as the timing belt if the serpentine belt broke?
I also had the serpentine belt replaced not too long ago.
It could be possible that this installation was bad also.
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06-06-2016, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 Valve being destroyed would imply they met a piston. That would also destroy the piston. | Not always.
My old civic bent two valves when the timing belt went.
Pulled head pistons were fine, replaced the two valves, motor was fine after.
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06-06-2016, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Great68 Not always.
My old civic bent two valves when the timing belt went.
Pulled head pistons were fine, replaced the two valves, motor was fine after. | How much did it cost you to replace all those?
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06-06-2016, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Reeyal Perhaps we're talking about two different things.
The timing belt is usually a metal chain belt inside of the engine, which along with many things, drives the cam shaft(s).
The serpentine belt is a steel enforced hard rubber that is tied to the crank shaft to run many accessory motors, such as A/C compressor, water pump, power steering, and alternator.
Based on what you said, perhaps the serpentine belt was changed. If the serpentine belt, water pump, and its pulley were changed, for $890, that was a total rip off. | A lot of motors use rubber timing belts to drive the camshafts, which also drive the water pump off the same belt. The lancer motor is one of them.
My civic's timing belt snapped when the water pump seized.
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06-06-2016, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LightKeeper How much did it cost you to replace all those? | I can't remember, I did it myself. New valves, head gaskets, and a weekend.
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06-06-2016, 02:24 PM
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I feel it's so hard to find a trust worthy mechanic.
This shop my car is at is kind of sketchy.
My car happened to break down in front of it so I went there to check what happened.
I left it there Saturday and they called me today to quote me $2200.
Definitely some sort of belt broke though since he showed me on Saturday.
The strange thing is he said he towed my car to his house to fix?
To save me on tax?
I thought about it. and I'm just gonna wait on it.
So I called him back to tow it back to the shop so I can tow it home.
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06-06-2016, 02:45 PM
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Have you got a picture of the broken belt he showed you? I'd definitely get a second opinion from one of the RS sponsor shops before shelling out any money, 40k is very low for a timing belt to go and being interference motors the valves could have been damaged if the belt did snap. If this mechanic didn't mention the valves at all I'd be questioning their diagnosis.
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Originally Posted by underscore Have you got a picture of the broken belt he showed you? I'd definitely get a second opinion from one of the RS sponsor shops before shelling out any money, 40k is very low for a timing belt to go and being interference motors the valves could have been damaged if the belt did snap. If this mechanic didn't mention the valves at all I'd be questioning their diagnosis. | Unfortunately, my phone died as well just when I was about to take a picture..my luck was that bad.
He did mention about the valve but didn't mention how many was blown.. along with camshaft sensor.
I agree with you about a second opinion.
It's no rush for me to fix it up right away anyways.
That's why I'm wondering if I should even fix it.. considering I can almost buy another car with that price.
I'm still waiting for him to call me back so I can get my car back.
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Call the shop that changed the timing belt and see what they'll do for you. If nothing, Speed Syndicate and Garage 5 have always been solid shops. Get an estimate. Also see how much a used motor would cost + timing belt, water pump, acc belts and fluids, etc.
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Something the occurred to me is that it could be the accessory belt that went and the guy is just trying to screw you. What happened when the car broke down? And did the belt look like this:
(grooves running the length of the belt) 
or like this?
(grooves running across the belt) 
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what shop is this?
circumstances seem pretty shady
is the mechanic that did the Tbelt job the same one as the one that has the car now?
similar to what people are asking, what happened when it "broke"?
Yeah, there are all sorts of shady as shit shops out there. There used to be this old shop i'd go to that got bought out by one of those shady ass mechanics. The previous owner charged me $60 to lift the car, unbolt my b-pipe and muffler and replace it with an aftermarket one. Took about an hour. He was a nice guy but I guess he retired.
A few years after, just before i sold the car. I called the same shop, the new owner/shop guy asked me to bring it in and took a look at it. (I was in the waiting room but I could see the car on the lift and he was looking at it). I'm no expert but i'm no slouch either. It was literally a bolt off and bolt on job, as I had the stock parts ready to bolt in. I'd do it myself but I'm lazy AF and figured i was gonna pay that same install fee. Guy looks at me and says, jobs is gonna take about 4 hours, it's gonna need new bolts (rofl) and it might need to be welded in some section...$350. I literally laughed and turned around and walked out.
I know you're trying to make a living but jesus, some of the shops out there are straight up fucking criminally predatory .
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Originally Posted by underscore Something the occurred to me is that it could be the accessory belt that went and the guy is just trying to screw you. What happened when the car broke down? ] | When the car broke down, it felt like it was out of gas. Everything shut down and all the lights were on. I didn't hear much of a loud noise either.
I wasn't going too fast maybe 40km/h after a redlight. The car would not start up after. At first I thought it was fuel pump or filter related.
It turned out it was some belt.. I think it could be an accessory belt like you said.
I'm afraid I'm no expert so I didn't check if there were teeth mark in the belt.
If he's trying to deceive me then shame on him!
He still haven't called me back today. I'm hoping to get it back tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi what shop is this?
circumstances seem pretty shady
is the mechanic that did the Tbelt job the same one as the one that has the car now?
similar to what people are asking, what happened when it "broke"?
| Nope it was another mechanic by chance that I ran into this one.
I'm not sure if I should name out the shop, but it's on kingsway.
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Originally Posted by LightKeeper it's on kingsway. | Is it also a used car dealership?
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Originally Posted by Presto Is it also a used car dealership? | Nope, it mainly sells tires, oil change and such.
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The strange thing is he asked me for money up front so he can buy the parts and fix it on his own to avoid taxes.
And, he towed my car to his home without my permission! Is that even legal?
Well, I don't mind paying a little more for warranty the legit way.
He was definitely not happy when I told him I want to tow it back.
I'm afraid now he won't call me back and I will have to go and confront him to get it back.
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06-06-2016, 05:58 PM
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Shady as fuck.
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