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snowball 01-09-2018 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8881913)
Do you have Facebook installed?

Facebook, instagram, snapchat, all the goodies are installed. Google assistant is off though.

On an unrelated, somewhat related note, I once had a friend's brother see ads that were targeted at my computer. She came by, used the wifi at my house and it probably gave her phone some cookies with my IP attached to them. She took her phone home, they attached her IP to my cookies, and we started seeing ads aimed at each other's households. Ad targeting spreads like a virus!

stewie 01-12-2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8881780)
For those who are using Android phones / tablets, make sure you have disabled the Google Voice assistant configuration. Double check, and occassionally go back into the setting and check again, cuz for at least 2 or 3 times, I have found that the option to have my phone listen to me saying "OK Google" is enabled.

I do have Google Assistant turned on, but have always set the setting to listen only when the Google App or the Google Assistant has been opened. I suspect that the setting must have been reset back to listening on me all the time when some part of the phone -- be it the OS updates or the App updates -- were installed.

The exact steps to turn that off seems to have changed a bit every now and then as well, and even though I kind of know where / what to look for -- "OK Google" -- it always takes me a while before I can track it down.

I've "Hey Google" turned off and haven't really noticed any ads that ever pop up anymore. If it's listening all the time waiting to hear that one voice command it's most likely listening to every single word you're saying and remembering it. I remember at one point I had Shazam set to auto recognize and when I'd go shopping at certain stores I'd hear some decent songs I knew and sure enough they were on my recently Shazamed list.
For knowing where I'm going I'm pretty sure it's all with having your location settings on and noticing patterns in your days. Mon - Fri I leave for work at the same time at 6:40am and there's always a "there's no traffic on your route" message and it'll pop up again at 3:20pm. Only does it on weekdays.
When I go to restaurants I always get a "at X right now? take a photo or write a review". If I look at my daily google timeline it knows where I'm at for how long and what store I was in. If there's ads I'm guessing it's based off that. I THINK it was my Z3 that had an option to group photos by location and faces, so if you're taking photos of something I'm sure it can recognize popular name brands or logos in the background and have ads that are similar to it or from the location of the photo's time/location stamp and know where it was taken and suggest trips there etc.

Add an edit here - As some were saying how your google accounts are all synced up anything I search at my home desktop (google random letters aksjdf adsklfja ;sdnfmlk on your desktop and then type the first couple letters on your phone and it'll bring it up. My work desktop has me logged into through chrome and if I type those same few letters in it'll bring everything up and most likely suggest ads related to whatever it is.

Traum 01-12-2018 01:34 PM

On a somewhat unrelated note -- does anyone noticed how the Google GPS / location service / timeline tracking has become a lot more fine grained in the recent month or two?

I was reviewing my timeline just now, and it seems to me that the degree of accuracy with Google's location tracking is significantly more fine grained / detailed than it used to. From my location / timeline tracking data, it seems to me that I am seeing some very strong evidence that Google Map nearly tracked out my exact detailed route for the whole day on Dec 5, and have more or less been doing the same since then. In the past, the route is far less detailed, and only roughly maps out the locations I've been to and the routes I take. As of early Nov, it was still more or less like that.

stewie 01-12-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8882485)
On a somewhat unrelated note -- does anyone noticed how the Google GPS / location service / timeline tracking has become a lot more fine grained in the recent month or two?

I was reviewing my timeline just now, and it seems to me that the degree of accuracy with Google's location tracking is significantly more fine grained / detailed than it used to. From my location / timeline tracking data, it seems to me that I am seeing some very strong evidence that Google Map nearly tracked out my exact detailed route for the whole day on Dec 5, and have more or less been doing the same since then. In the past, the route is far less detailed, and only roughly maps out the locations I've been to and the routes I take. As of early Nov, it was still more or less like that.

Extremely detailed. I was in Metrotown a week ago and was going in and out of shops. I was in West 49 for no more than a few minutes and my phone had the pop up to take a photo and write a review for the place. Only way I can see that happening is long/latt coordinates instead of general vicinity location. Granted it is called GPS for a reason lol but I don't understand how it can tell I'm in that store and not the one below it.





edit - Just looked it up out of curiosity and found this from the nytimes from a few years ago cell tracking. That was published in '13. If it's even true think of how much further they've probably come since then.

Traum 03-26-2018 03:57 PM

Well... Facebook finally came out to admit that they've been snooping on our conversations and stuff through our phones:

Facebook Has Been Collecting Android Users' Cell Phone Data For Years | Time

The link above also shows you how you can download a copy of all the data that Facebook has recorded on you, and how you can stop it from continuing to do some of those eavesdroping.

GS8 03-26-2018 04:40 PM

I'm personally a-OK with FB losing billions of dollars at this juncture. I remember downloading the app on my Android back in 2012 and used it for maybe 4 months but after reading articles BACK THEN about how the app can harvest information without sufficient knowledge, I deleted the app right away.

I've watered down my FB profile over the years. The features they added just went beyond the creep threshold for me.

welfare 03-26-2018 07:17 PM

Fairly comprehensive article on his thievery
How Facebook Was Founded - Business Insider

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"I'm going to fuck them."
Eduardo Saverin and Adam D'Angelo were not the only people Mark discussed his Harvard Connection - Facebook situation with. We believe he also had many IM exchanges about it with relatives and a close female Harvard friend.

In January 2004, Mark met with the Winklevoss brothers and Divya Narendra for what would be the last time. The meeting was on January 14, 2004, and it was held at the same place Mark met with the HarvardConnection team for the first time — in the dining hall of Mark's residence, Kirkland House.

By this point, Mark's site, thefacebook.com, wasn't complete, but he was working hard on it. He'd arranged for Eduardo Saverin to pay for his servers. He had already told Adam that "the right thing to do" was to not complete Harvard Connection and build TheFacebook.com instead. He had registered the domain name.

He therefore had a choice to make: Tell Cameron, Tyler and Divya that he wanted out of their project, or string them along until he was ready to launch thefacebook.com.

Mark sought advice on this decision from his confidants. One friend told him, in so many words, you know me. I don't ever think anyone should do anything bad to anybody.

Mark and this friend also had the following IM exchange about how Mark planned to resolve the competing projects:

Friend: So have you decided what you're going to do about the websites?

Zuck: Yeah, I'm going to fuck them

Zuck: Probably in the year

Zuck: *ear

sonick 03-26-2018 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8895196)
Well... Facebook finally came out to admit that they've been snooping on our conversations and stuff through our phones:

Facebook Has Been Collecting Android Users' Cell Phone Data For Years | Time

The link above also shows you how you can download a copy of all the data that Facebook has recorded on you, and how you can stop it from continuing to do some of those eavesdroping.

Clarify its only SMS text messages and phone call records, not via audio while the phone is inactive.

twitchyzero 03-27-2018 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8895202)
I'm personally a-OK with FB losing billions of dollars at this juncture. I remember downloading the app on my Android back in 2012 and used it for maybe 4 months but after reading articles BACK THEN about how the app can harvest information without sufficient knowledge, I deleted the app right away.

I've watered down my FB profile over the years. The features they added just went beyond the creep threshold for me.

does deleting the app delete the API and all associated codes completely? 4Head
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The cached archive was generated once and not updated on the second request. However, two days after a request to delete all contact data, the contacts were still listed by the contact management tool.)
https://arstechnica.com/information-...ndroid-phones/

i'm surprised people are finding this revelation surprising...just about every social media android app asks for permission of contacts, birthdays, etc....to assume call/msg history and beyond are not logged when they've already gone to those lengths?

320icar 03-27-2018 12:15 AM

Be like me and never get Facebook, ever.

twitchyzero 03-27-2018 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8895243)
Be like me and never get Facebook, ever.

so that means you're not on instagram, whatsapp?

Gerbs 03-27-2018 12:42 AM

Time to buy in the $FB dip :fullofwin:

twitchyzero 05-15-2018 09:45 PM

lol no one is safe...even if you deleted FB years ago or don't have FB but uses WhatsApp or just the Internet in general

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In a blog post, Facebook’s product management director, David Baser, wrote that the company tracked users and non-users across websites and apps for three main reasons: providing services directly, securing the company’s own site, and “improving our products and services”.
Mark Zuckerberg's Facebook hearing was an utter sham
Zephyr Teachout
Read more

“When you visit a site or app that uses our services, we receive information even if you’re logged out or don’t have a Facebook account. This is because other apps and sites don’t know who is using Facebook,” Baser wrote.
“Whether it’s information from apps and websites, or information you share with other people on Facebook, we want to put you in control – and be transparent about what information Facebook has and how it is used.”
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...users-off-site

320icar 09-06-2018 11:18 AM

I don’t have social media. Texted a few friends about how I’m in the market for a pre-owned car. Posted in here too. This week has been a non stop cycle of ford and Mitsubishi and Honda etc car ads, very specifically about buying pre owned.

Fucking desperate and pathetic

SkinnyPupp 09-06-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8917869)
I don’t have social media. Texted a few friends about how I’m in the market for a pre-owned car. Posted in here too. This week has been a non stop cycle of ford and Mitsubishi and Honda etc car ads, very specifically about buying pre owned.

Fucking desperate and pathetic

If you're in the market for one, would you have been looking online using your web browser?

Ulic Qel-Droma 09-07-2018 05:39 AM

its not just about what you are doing.

it's about your position in the bigger picture.

who your friends are, what they are posting and what the computers can correlate between you and them and what they are doing.

like i said, it's not just you.

totally out of your hands.

for those of you that are too stupid to get it.

im gonna make it slightly easier

A^2+B^2=C^2

you only have to know 2/3 to figure out the 3rd.

and guess what, the computers know the 2/3 and you're the 3rd.

like a fucking puzzle missing only one piece. only ONE PIECE FITS IN THERE. lol. YOURE THE MISSING PIECE.

doesnt matter if you hide... it knows your shape. it knows what's supposed to fit in there. and that's you.

SkinnyPupp 09-07-2018 07:30 AM

o...k....

sonick 09-07-2018 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8917919)
If you're in the market for one, would you have been looking online using your web browser?

Also if you go into dealerships and sign onto their wifi, they will also retarget you for related ads after.

320icar 09-07-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8917919)
If you're in the market for one, would you have been looking online using your web browser?

Only Craigslist which is no different than any other day. No google searches for tips on used vehicles etc

underscore 09-07-2018 01:20 PM

^ I'm gonna assume you went into the "cars and trucks" category? Which is largely populated with pre-owned vehicles.

ssjGoku69 09-07-2018 01:27 PM

What really made me feel violated was that Instagram Advertisements for Amazon showed my previous purchases and items I've viewed. FB/Instagram and Amazon are separate companies, but this browsing/account information somehow gets implemented into facebook's targeted advertisement?

BIC_BAWS 09-07-2018 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stewie (Post 8882490)
Extremely detailed. I was in Metrotown a week ago and was going in and out of shops. I was in West 49 for no more than a few minutes and my phone had the pop up to take a photo and write a review for the place. Only way I can see that happening is long/latt coordinates instead of general vicinity location. Granted it is called GPS for a reason lol but I don't understand how it can tell I'm in that store and not the one below it.

This is actually done through both wifi location services and bluetooth location services. It's beginning to trend as marketing tactics, but essentially when you walked into that store, the strongest Wi-Fi signal is of that store or BT signal of that store.

That's how Google knows you're at W49 and not Gap.

underscore 09-07-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjGoku69 (Post 8918044)
What really made me feel violated was that Instagram Advertisements for Amazon showed my previous purchases and items I've viewed. FB/Instagram and Amazon are separate companies, but this browsing/account information somehow gets implemented into facebook's targeted advertisement?

Amazon purchases ad space from FB/IG, the same as anyone else. Nobody would make much ad money if the ads they ran were only for their own products.

SkinnyPupp 09-07-2018 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjGoku69 (Post 8918044)
What really made me feel violated was that Instagram Advertisements for Amazon showed my previous purchases and items I've viewed. FB/Instagram and Amazon are separate companies, but this browsing/account information somehow gets implemented into facebook's targeted advertisement?

Amazon buys ads elsewhere that read your cookies and login info to target you. This is why they are making such a huge deal over cookies in the EU.

There are obvious tracking methods, but that's not really what this thread is about. What's REALLY creepy is when you get targeted after having a verbal conversation with NO other ways to track, like in my OP.

Hondaracer 09-21-2018 12:31 PM

So I come home for lunch, make lunch, put my phone down on my coffee table and put on a “Rick steves Europe” I have PVR’ed. Anyone who knows rick Steve’s knows he has a fairly unique voice.

About 10 minutes in my phone vibrates and I look at it. It “randomly” recommends me a rock Steve’s podcast in the notifications..

I’ve never once seen a podcast notification come up and I don’t even subscribe to his podcasts (although I have listened in the past but not for months..)


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