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Old 01-08-2017, 10:07 PM   #1
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2017 Detroit Auto Show: highlights and discussion

Lets see what you guys like and interested about

I know some people will hate it but Kia Stinger looks pretty cool, 365hp and rwd




interior is kinda weird with the middle vents


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looks way better than the concept

still looks cheap though
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So for 2018 the Tiguan in NA would be longer by 10" cause we're fat





source: 2018 Volkswagen Tiguan: They Made It Bigger For America
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So for 2018 the Tiguan in NA would be longer by 10" cause we're fat
So now they've turned it into a Touareg, and will need to add back another small SUV to slot below the Tiguan. Just like how the CRV progressive went from its gen 1 size to its current size, so Honda added the HRV all over again.

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damn. that stinger....


great car... but Kia's dealer network has always been known to be Sub par....
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Front end of the stinger reminds me of the genesis coupe lol.
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I dunno the stinger looks ugly to me

But I'm surprised it's so long
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Wasn't the Stinger supposed to be a coupe??
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This Audi Q8 is going to be shown at Detroit, Audi just released the concept video online

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Wasn't the Stinger supposed to be a coupe??
the article i read about it said kia said it only took the name and rwd concept from the concept coupe but dosen't share anything else.

edit: the design of this car came from the GT concept back in 2011 which i completely forgot about until now

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2018 Camry a bit too aggressive? no engine enhancements









interior aint bad

i do like the way it looks
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Camry will sell like hotcakes. Heard the engines will be enhanced from MY2016. Of course, with Toyota, enhancements means maybe 1-2mpg gain and one extra torque or two.
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that c-pillar design... it works/not works for me? i don't know why

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wow that looks really upscale...I understand it's fully-loaded but looks on-par with Lexus

image fine-print says it's prototype and not a production model...so there goes that
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New Camry looks great. Looking forward to the driving impressions. Strangely, the A-pillars look really thin though? Toyota has had trouble with small overlap over the past few years, I wonder if they've managed to address that with this.

Also, my favourite crossover the Qashqai is finally coming over to North America, and in Canada we get the proper name not the stupid "Rogue Sport" the US is getting always been jealous of how the UK got the better looking less Muricanized SUV, not the stupid Rogue.

Stinger looks really confused to me so far based on photos. The worst part is that stupid tail light line extended to the entire rear fender like wat?
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New Camry looks great. Looking forward to the driving impressions. Strangely, the A-pillars look really thin though? Toyota has had trouble with small overlap over the past few years, I wonder if they've managed to address that with this.
optical illusion? not sure if i am explaining this properly but the a-pillar starts of thin at the base, but gets thicker as it reaches the roof?

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The front of the new Camry looks like something out of a Need 4 Speed Underground mash-up. SO MANY RANDOM ANGLES.
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what do you guys think? not sure if lincoln's direction is the right idea... this is their "concept navigator":


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I think that navigator was at the previous auto show, it has friggin steps to get inside.



on the other side
Honda decided to put the civic's front end on the odyssey











that gear selected tho....
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Can't speak for the rest of the car (2D boxy front end stapled onto a curvy body, spaceship interior) but man everything from the B pillar and back looks heavenly. The new Odyssey probably has the best application of the new floating roof trend so far, the continuation of the chrome belt line trim works very well too.

Also quad exhausts on the XSE Camry

I think one of my favourite things about this auto show is that traditional torque converter autos are starting to make a comeback. Lots of cars getting 8/9/10sp torque converter autos (Honda, Toyota/Lexus, Hyundai/Kia, etc.) as opposed to DCTs which in the long run just can't match the reliability and longevity of a torque converter. It's becoming possible to make torque converter autos shift nearly as quickly as a DCT, which is great. I much prefer the smoothness of a torque converter auto over a DCT, especially for everyday driving.
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Also quad exhausts on the XSE Camry
fake ones? #justthetip
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This Lexus grill thing has gotten completely out of hand:

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The Stinger looks like it's built on the 2015 Genesis platform. The V6TT is going to be powering the Genesis G80 Sport. Surprised they did't mention the Tau V8 as an option since it's available on the platform already.

I have a V8 2G Genesis and it's pretty quick, I can only imagine how much quicker it can be in a lighter version of the car. My Genesis is damn near 5000 pounds...
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optical illusion? not sure if i am explaining this properly but the a-pillar starts of thin at the base, but gets thicker as it reaches the roof?

Here is a more clear picture

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