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Looks like Dodge’s Demon will have AWD, 912 lb.-ft. of torque
Cryptic photo hints at massive torque driving massive drag tires. Just take my money now
Clayton Seams by CLAYTON SEAMS | 8 HOURS AGO
Dodge released a press photo today of its upcoming and secretive Challenger Hellcat Demon, wearing fender flares and super-wide 315-millimetre tires – but that’s not the most interesting part. The big news is on the license plate. The photoshopped plate reads #2576@35. And that could mean it makes 2,756 lb.-ft. of torque at 3,500 rpm at each of its four wheels. Does that sound ludicrous? Let me explain.
True mechanical torque – what comes out to the wheels – is calculated by engine torque multiplied by gear ratio, multiplied again by final drive ratio and divided by the amount of drive wheels. Now here’s the interesting bit: The “normal” Hellcat, which has 650 lb.-ft. of torque from its 6.2-litre supercharged V8, puts out 4,010 lb.-ft. to each rear wheel. It seems very unlikely that this new Demon will make less power than a Hellcat, so if we assume this thing has the same gear and axle ratios as a Hellcat, then with 2,756 lb.-ft. going to all four wheels, this could have 912 lb.-ft. of torque at the crank. Could it be possible? Given the lengths Dodge seems to be willing to go with these Hellcat versions, we’re sure it’ll be newsworthy and record breaking. What a time to be alive.
The car is now 89-mm wider thanks to large fender flares on all four wheels. The choice for wide 315-mm front tires nets Dodge the record for widest front tires on a production car – and the choice of a drag radial up front also hints at it being an AWD car. Drag radials like to wander on the highway and you don’t need them on the front axle unless you have the front wheels driven.
If all this is true, then the Demon’s rear end in this photo is all the competition is going to see at the local dragstrip.
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just slightly bigger than the z/28 which had 305's all around...
demon:
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
You see little timmy,
When a car's engine provides the wheels with more torque and power than available traction, the tires spin and generate heat through friction, enough heat that the rubber compound starts to combust and turn into smoke.
^ that was chained to the ground. regardless of the crazy torque, i don't think it'd be an easy feat to do a burnout on an awd with 315's, at least not for a very long time. but I guess if those 315's are drag radials..
It's pretty simple really, no tire in the world is going to be able to stick with almost 1,000lb/ft of torque tearing them apart... Burnouts will not be an issue.
I'm guessing they can adjust the awd system to be 100% rear bias to do a burnout on the rear tires.
As for why it needs drag radials on all 4 corners.
Because race car.
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and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
They will undoubtedly have a control module to turn the AWD off for rear burnout box action at the strip. You have to really. Having drag radials on all 4 will again be drag race track specific. Driving around with them on all the time will be hard on the tires and it will wobble at highway speeds. If you've ever driven around with slicks on the highway (back in the glory days of street racing going from spot to spot) it's not fun lol.
I absolutely fucking hate Chrysler and their products but their Hellcat stuff is off the chain. Hope the build quality doesn't see these things falling apart in 5 years.
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
I'm all for these cars, and their rediculous power numbers...
BUT, perhaps Dodge could focus on the fit and finish of the vehicles in question first? I swear to god, every single one of these cars I see, the panel gaps etc are beyond bad, especially the trunk lid/tail lights. At night it's even more obvious, due to the tail light design. Anyone paying that kind of money for a car shouldn't be getting such shit IMO
I'm all for these cars, and their rediculous power numbers...
BUT, perhaps Dodge could focus on the fit and finish of the vehicles in question first? I swear to god, every single one of these cars I see, the panel gaps etc are beyond bad, especially the trunk lid/tail lights. At night it's even more obvious, due to the tail light design. Anyone paying that kind of money for a car shouldn't be getting such shit IMO
It's a muscle car. The target audience does not care about fit and finish. It's all about the power. Being a muscle car it has to be able to do a burnout or it can't be called a muscle car.
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I am reading elsewhere that the awd system in the gt adds 200lbs to the car, and the demon supposedly is 200lbs less than the hellcat... Dosen't add up.
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
I'm all for these cars, and their rediculous power numbers...
BUT, perhaps Dodge could focus on the fit and finish of the vehicles in question first? I swear to god, every single one of these cars I see, the panel gaps etc are beyond bad, especially the trunk lid/tail lights. At night it's even more obvious, due to the tail light design. Anyone paying that kind of money for a car shouldn't be getting such shit IMO
We have this motto at work, fit or finished, you only get one.
Demon shaping up to be an incredibly powerful street and track car
In the lead-up to the April 11 unveiling of the 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles has been dribbling out tantalizing videos and tidbits of information—like the fact it will weigh 215 pounds less than the current Challenger SRT Hellcat.
If you thought the Hellcat was insane, brace yourself. We have learned a bit about the weight loss program and it takes this car to new levels of anticipation.
For starters, all but the driver’s seat will be optional. Yes, you heard that right. Removing the front passenger and rear seats and the seatbelts and other components associated with having a witness to your driving prowess saves 113 pounds. We assume the seats can be ordered as an option.
With the seats gone, it should be no surprise that the stereo only has two speakers (located in the front doors), carpeting is out, as well as some trunk trim, the spare tire cover, and two pounds worth of parking sensors.
Also out: 18 pounds worth of NVH components which means the Hellcat will sound like a pussycat compared with the Demon.
Manual tilt and telescoping steering wheel saves four pounds and the car will have lighter 18×11-inch aluminum wheels with open lug nuts; a smaller and hollow sway bar; and lighter four-piston brakes.
It adds up to dropping a full 232 pounds but since the car is described as weighing 215 pounds less, it appears 17 pounds were added in other areas that we are sure to learn about over the next few months.
Dodge is releasing teaser videos every Thursday until the car is shown at an event in advance of the New York auto show. We wouldn’t be surprised to see FCA tallying millions of views in the lead-up to showing us its new halo car.
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
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