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02-08-2017, 09:49 PM
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I, too, agree with the Accord. Maybe a seventh gen. Maybe a coupe with the V6... Just spit ballin' here. |
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02-08-2017, 09:59 PM
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I have a '13 6 speed manual V6 Accord Coupe and love the power and the handling is decent considering how big the car is. I find it a little more youthful looking than a full size 4 door.
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02-08-2017, 10:37 PM
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Coupes are nicer, I agree, but sedans still have good potential (mine is white so biased):
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02-08-2017, 10:53 PM
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i drove a q50 sport before, i had a g37s previously so it wasn't too impressive. i like the exterior looks, and the interior is not bad but i really disliked the dual screen thing they did.
i've never actually been inside a tlx but i like the way it looks!
but with the q50 from what i understand the new engine is only available in 2016, which will probably affect the resale values of 2015 models?
and i've heard lots of good things about the new VR30DDTT, and it sounds like its very tunable as well. not sure if the engine matters alot to you, but if you don't need a car right now, i would suggest holding out for another year or 2 and wait for the 2016 q50s to come down in price.
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02-08-2017, 11:17 PM
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LOL i love the comments guys, some of you might know but I've owned 4 accords in my time a 99 sedan, 03 coupe, 07 sedan and 07 coupe.
I recently sold my 07 Coupe v6 6-speed to my friend to downsize to one car, my wife's 07 v6 sedan. 2 weeks ago we got in an accident and it was written off. It kept us safe but this is primary her car but she wants something else now. She wants a bit of an upgrade.
Although I do like the 2017 Accord, I driven the touring model it was quiet, powerful, and quick. It's just a bit boring for her taste. Quote:
Originally Posted by Shorn i drove a q50 sport before, i had a g37s previously so it wasn't too impressive. i like the exterior looks, and the interior is not bad but i really disliked the dual screen thing they did.
i've never actually been inside a tlx but i like the way it looks!
but with the q50 from what i understand the new engine is only available in 2016, which will probably affect the resale values of 2015 models?
and i've heard lots of good things about the new VR30DDTT, and it sounds like its very tunable as well. not sure if the engine matters alot to you, but if you don't need a car right now, i would suggest holding out for another year or 2 and wait for the 2016 q50s to come down in price. | For the price point we're looking at it'll have the old g37 VQ instead. I'm going to drive it tomorrow, depending on weather and seeing how we like the interior.
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02-08-2017, 11:24 PM
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Infiniti has a better chassis than the Acura, the way it is layout it makes diy much more comfortable.
It depends on your preference, maintenance budget where you care about resale or not. Don't forget about insurance rates too.
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02-09-2017, 12:35 AM
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having driven both..... and lived with both... for a day and over night....
the two cars are pretty much neck to neck in appeal.
Q50 has a slight edge in chassis feel, sportier (it is RWD based afterall and running the FM premium platform). The factory run flats suck, especially on the Sport model cars where the ride is quite firm. Bigger S brakes are great and have great feel. The trunk is quite shallow (the G37 sedan was way deeper). rear head room was meh. The infotainment requires software updates now and then, but my initial memory of it was it was laggy. Thirstier VQ motor, but plenty of power and torque. Excellent AWD system. non Tech package cars without drive by wire steering actually feels decent, whereas the Drive by wire steering feels like a logitech wheel.... Pretty solid car overall with nice build quality, and nice use of materials on the interior. Grain of leather was quite nice. Love the organic exterior lines and still looks stunning since release in 2014.
TLX - Nice power and fuel economy from the motor. 9 speed transmission was ok... weird to not have a physical shifter. doesnt feel sharp, SH-AWD trying to compensate. (the 4 banger with P-AWS felt nimbler) nicer interior room overall compared to Q50 . interior materials were mediocre.... soft touch dash was nice, the leather was ok... not supple but should last. center stack was no different from a standard pre 16' Accord... and looks dated already. The ones I drove were elites. pretty loaded cars. nice to have auto start from factory. Its an "ok" comfortable car for the daily basis, but dynamically the Q50S has the edge. Another thing im lukewarm about it is the styling: I personally am not a big fan of the way it looks...... and i'm afraid it will look dated very soon. (04-08 gen has aged very gracefully)
Two very different cars despite in same "class" and price point. Need to drive both to see which suits your needs. A) a more compact 3 series fighter "sport sedan" or B) a Tarted up Honda Accord V6 with AWD
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02-10-2017, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes Been car shopping myself lately too. What is wrong with the 2015 TLX models and is improved on the 2016+ models? | 2015 was the first year the TLX was introduced as well as the 9 speed automatics and they had shifter problems with a TSB released.
2016 came with the shifter issue resolved and we haven't had any come in for such issues. Now i'm not sure if they've reinforced some components from factory in the 2016 but zero issues what so ever.
Other than that, the two model years are the same lol.
Edit: 2014 TL SHAWD imo are the best sedans that Acura has in their line-up so far. The 3.7L motor and automatic transmission is powerful/strong... They're just not the nicest looking things
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02-10-2017, 11:01 AM
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02-10-2017, 11:02 AM
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02-10-2017, 01:25 PM
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still better looking.
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02-10-2017, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BoS_DC2 2015 was the first year the TLX was introduced as well as the 9 speed automatics and they had shifter problems with a TSB released.
2016 came with the shifter issue resolved and we haven't had any come in for such issues. Now i'm not sure if they've reinforced some components from factory in the 2016 but zero issues what so ever.
Other than that, the two model years are the same lol. | Since there is a TSB, would the transmission be covered under warranty and repaired/replaced at Honda's cost or the consumer?
Weird how Honda hasn't gotten their transmission right. I guess every manufacturer has its Achilles heel.
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02-10-2017, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes Since there is a TSB, would the transmission be covered under warranty and repaired/replaced at Honda's cost or the consumer?
Weird how Honda hasn't gotten their transmission right. I guess every manufacturer has its Achilles heel. | Actually, the 9 speed isn't an Acura made transmission. It's a ZF sourced one. Surprisingly, the 8 speed DCT they use for the 4 cylinder TLX is Acura made and seems to get way better reviews than the 9 speed in the V6.
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02-10-2017, 04:17 PM
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So we went into see Tofu1413 at Brian Jessel BMW to test a Q50s
It drives really well the q50 with sport package without the tech package means it have a life in the steering, the engine pulls strong and gives a nice twitch at startup to let you know the engine is longitude mounted. The dual screen setup isn't something I can live with all that much its slow to respond and the nav seems out of date already. The back seats are a bit tighter and minimal trunk space means it's out.
After this Alex showed us the 328d, although it looks slightly smaller and drives smaller the BMW is an overall a better call and since it's diesel I wouldn't have to worry about the fuel consumption that hampers the Q50s.
Sadly at this time, it's up to the wife she still has no clue what she wants. So far we test driven.2015 TLX, 2010 TL, 2010 TSX, 2015 GTI, 2016 Tiguan, 2015 Forester XT, 2017 Mazda 3, 2017 Mazda 6, 2016 Mazda Cx-5.
Now she's picking a car like she picks shoes.... Buy them all! lol
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02-10-2017, 04:53 PM
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i'm surprised no one said miata...
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Sadly at this time, it's up to the wife she still has no clue what she wants. So far we test driven.2015 TLX, 2010 TL, 2010 TSX, 2015 GTI, 2016 Tiguan, 2015 Forester XT, 2017 Mazda 3, 2017 Mazda 6, 2016 Mazda Cx-5.
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02-10-2017, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Hakkaboy what's your impression of TL vs TSX vs TLX? | The 2010 TL is big and boaty, auto works well here as it's really a comfy big sedan. the styling from the rear is not to everyone's taste.
the tsx I tried out was the 4cylinder and it felt terribly under powered. the interior dash layout seems a bit too busy (didn't have nav) with a lot of buttons.
TLX, the 9-speed feels like it hunts for gears a bit too much for my liking, using the same engine as the 2010 TL with less weight it was a better match.
Overall all three were great cars for everyday, they don't have much that's too special about them. When driving it just doesn't make you feel special, it needs a bit more character to be truly enjoyable.
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02-10-2017, 11:17 PM
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When i Really think about it.........
I think the Accord Euro R would've been perfect for you
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02-11-2017, 12:44 AM
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The TLX is now powered by K24.
The Honda K series has been around for way too long since its introduction in 2000.
After 17 years, K series has been retaining the same basics without any major modifications.
Why aren't they introducing new series?
Using the same engine(virtually) for almost 2 decades?
Honda B series lasted 12 years (1989-2001) and I thought that was a bit too long.
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02-11-2017, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Timpo The TLX is now powered by K24.
The Honda K series has been around for way too long since its introduction in 2000.
After 17 years, K series has been retaining the same basics without any major modifications.
Why aren't they introducing new series?
Using the same engine(virtually) for almost 2 decades?
Honda B series lasted 12 years (1989-2001) and I thought that was a bit too long. | K20C1 & L15B7
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