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TLX
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Q50s
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other
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02-07-2017, 05:11 PM
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#1 | Media Officer / MOD
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| 2015 Q50s vs 2015 TLX
Hello Revscene!
I'm looking for a new car and have narrowed it down to either the TLX or Q50, both are comfy sedans with decent power. Just wondering if any of you guys have anything to add, suggestions, opinions?
The TLX I'm looking at is the v6 with SH-awd, 9-speed Elite while the Q50 is with the 3.7 "sport" line.
or whatever else falls in the same price/power field
budget is around 30k
for the people voting others, please comment below what else would be good
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02-07-2017, 05:55 PM
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Not sure if you test drove the Q50 yet, but when i picked mine up i tested the premium and the sports with tech package and they're two different car. The biggest thing you should consider is if you want the tech package or not, it really does change the car's feeling completely.
The premium has a bit more body lean compared to a 3-series from the same year, but nothing too noticeable. The run flat tires does make the ride a bit harsh so the sports suspension won't help if that matters to you. Eco mode does feel sluggish but not slow. Not sure if you driven a G37 before, but on the Q50 the normal mode is the G37 sports mode and the Q50 sports mode is the G37 IPL sports mode. I drive about 70km daily and filling 91 my tanks runs out every week, give or take a day.
Got mine with 30km and it's at 41k km now and not a single problem. I live in Edmonton and it's been fine in heavy/icy roads. Cabin noise isn't perfect if you drive highway a lot. If it drops below -20 and you park outside you do hear some squeaks for the first few minutes. Overall build quality is pretty good to me, be prepared for finger prints everywhere....
If you pick the Q50 i really recommend driving with and without tech package. I loved the additional safety features the tech package comes with, but in the end I didn't like how the DAS felt. Keep in mind resale value, without the tech package you don't get features that seem standard on a lot of cars these days.No Blind spot detection, 360 camera, you get rear view camera but not 360 view, also without the tech package the rear view camera does not have sensors.
Hope this helps, good luck!
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02-07-2017, 05:58 PM
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^thanks that does, I'm going in to test drive a q50 sport on Thursday and will be able to tell then.
I drove the tlx today and found it to be similar to my accord, nothing really that special about it. It felt like just another car.
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02-07-2017, 06:06 PM
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Kind of a boring class, I am surprised you are looking at them when I see the cars list in your sig.
You might want to go have a look at a Buick Regal GS, it will give you a lot more bang for your buck and they have one of the highest reliability ratings (which is weird being that it is a GM line) and I bet you can get one in your price range after discounts. Plus they are supposed to be a very nice driving vehicle, a little less boring than the TLX and Q50. Car journalists couldn't say enough good things about it when it came out, I think it is just overshadowed by the hype of other cars right now.
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02-07-2017, 06:35 PM
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^ Actually looked into it, but the interior is just not up to par. Quality of materials and gaps are not to be desired
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02-07-2017, 06:36 PM
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I voted for "OTHER".
Another great option would be the CX-3. Comfortable car with great power. 5 star safety rating, stylish looks, it is the best car money can buy. I disconnected the exhaust, now it rumbles like a boxer engine too. I also lowered it and it grips like a go kart.
IF anyone disagrees, they can cash me outside.
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02-07-2017, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by k3lv I voted for "OTHER".
Another great option would be the CX-3. Comfortable car with great power. 5 star safety rating, stylish looks, it is the best car money can buy. I disconnected the exhaust, now it rumbles like a boxer engine too. I also lowered it and it grips like a go kart.
IF anyone disagrees, they can cash me outside. | judging by OP's post; he's looking for a 'comfy' sedan not a SUV....
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02-07-2017, 06:43 PM
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stupid k3lv being a troll as always
that's his car
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02-07-2017, 06:50 PM
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Will be hard to come by but the Genesis will have a better interior than both TLX and Q50. Resale will be shit.
Love the way the Q50 looks but not a fan of the infotainment interface or the steering. Early ones were also unreliable, will be hard to find a 2015 Q50S for $30k. Also find the back seat cramped for adult males. Objectively it just isn't a very good "luxury" sedan.
TLX > the Q50 if I had to choose. Aside from the 9 speed that may be a ticking time bomb but throw an extended warranty on it if you're worried
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02-07-2017, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jeedee judging by OP's post; he's looking for a 'comfy' sedan not a SUV.... | Sorry I must have mis-read.
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02-07-2017, 06:56 PM
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bruh.....
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02-07-2017, 07:14 PM
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I went to try the 2016 Q50S 400 Red Sport thinking it would be a great super sedan to daily. Turns out to be a very disconnected experience. Buttons on the dash made no sense to me and made me rather angry, pushing a button down here engages something on the screen really far away. The driving aids are also super invasive.
Lease a new car so if you get hit (which ya did ![Troll](images/smilies/troll.png) ) you don't get affected by depreciation.
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02-07-2017, 07:22 PM
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I used to own a TLX Tech with the 2.4L I4. It's great on gas and reliable but the tech annoyed me and interior felt cheap. The dual screen is a design failure and the UI lags a lot. The purported ELS audio system is not very good as well. Changing songs on bluetooth audio also has a huge delay. I personally think the accord currently is better with carplay + much better UI.
I recommend a slighty used 328i/C300 instead unless you really need the power of a V6.
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02-07-2017, 07:37 PM
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I like the power of the v6.... been used to it
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02-07-2017, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak Kind of a boring class, I am surprised you are looking at them when I see the cars list in your sig.
You might want to go have a look at a Buick Regal GS, it will give you a lot more bang for your buck and they have one of the highest reliability ratings (which is weird being that it is a GM line) and I bet you can get one in your price range after discounts. Plus they are supposed to be a very nice driving vehicle, a little less boring than the TLX and Q50. Car journalists couldn't say enough good things about it when it came out, I think it is just overshadowed by the hype of other cars right now. | Might have to echo the sentiment of a GM product for this class as well, surprisingly. Cadillac ATS has been known to be a competent driver, despite the notorious GM interior quality. Depreciation has hit some of these cars hard enough that both the turbo 4 and V6 Performance models fall well under your budget.
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02-07-2017, 07:39 PM
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ats is pretty small, the rear seats are pretty cramped
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02-07-2017, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CorneringArtist Might have to echo the sentiment of a GM product for this class as well, surprisingly. Cadillac ATS has been known to be a competent driver, despite the notorious GM interior quality. Depreciation has hit some of these cars hard enough that both the turbo 4 and V6 Performance models fall well under your budget. | Initial quality and overall reliability with GM products is pretty high. Yes the interiors are not good compared to the competition but most of their clientele don't mind it because they're getting into a very capable car at a lower price. They tend to be cheaper to maintain as well. It's just GM's business model I suppose. Bang for buck.
2014 CTS grew in size. Might be worth a look though I heard mixed things about CUE.
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02-07-2017, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 ats is pretty small, the rear seats are pretty cramped | To be honest, I'd have to say that the Lexus IS looks even smaller by comparison. That, and the incredibly annoying AWD front diff hump extending into the cabin by your right foot makes the interior feel even more cramped. Shame you can't get the 350 RWD with the new body style anymore.
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02-07-2017, 08:51 PM
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^ thus why I'm looking at the IS
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02-07-2017, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 ^ Actually looked into it, but the interior is just not up to par. Quality of materials and gaps are not to be desired | Yeah I would agree with that
I personally would be looking at an Audi S4 in that sort of market, but I think that will edge up too much on your price.
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02-07-2017, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ilvtofu TLX > the Q50 if I had to choose. Aside from the 9 speed that may be a ticking time bomb but throw an extended warranty on it if you're worried | It seems that the issue was "fixed" in the 2016/17 as owners of the newer models didn't notice the issues in the 2015 MY. Still the same ZF 9 speed but I guess it was a software update to fix the jerky 1-2/2-3 shifting
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02-07-2017, 09:56 PM
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Go test drive a used V6 Genesis... or test out my 5.0 but you won't want the V6 afterwards... lol
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02-08-2017, 12:48 AM
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how about a brz
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02-08-2017, 05:04 AM
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OP requested a "Comfy sedan with decent power".
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02-08-2017, 05:27 AM
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One major difference between the Q50 and the TLX is the drive train. The Q50 is rear wheel bias in AWD configuration and the TLX is front wheel bias in AWD configuration. Basically means that if AWD is not needed, most (or all) of the torque is sent to the biased wheels.
IMO, I can't stand FWD cars after owning RWD and rear bias AWD vehicles...
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