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Old 03-15-2017, 12:15 PM   #1
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Texting errors?

I'm a bit baffled by this and was hoping someone would be able to clarify or explain why and how this happens.


I'll be texting my girlfriend as I always do and every now and then I get a " ? " response from her. She starts talking about a completely random subject and throws me for a loop to the point where she sends me a screen shot and what displays on her phone is no where near close to what I sent and show her a screen shot from what's displayed on my phone.
example: yesterday we were texting while at work and she gives me a "go moal yourself!" message..okay...sends me a screen shot and on her phone there's a message from me that says "we should moal". I send her my screen shot and it shows my message saying "I can't wait to get out of here".
If I do a search I'll end up finding the word moal that I had sent to someone else as a typo back in the summer (I'm horrible for deleting text messages) but that person had replied to it so they obviously got it.

I'm technologically incompetent so I don't know if this is something that happens every now and then and if so how??? she's receiving messages I sent to someone else months ago. My originals don't make it to her somehow...are they just going to randomly be sent to someone else further down the line..????

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Which network are your phones on?
Sounds like a fido/rogers problem
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I don't have any help to offer, but I am intrigued by this problem. I am looking forward to the discovery of the cause and the solution.
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Sounds like your phone is screwing up, I'm not sure if you can still do this but maybe contact your providers and ask for text message logs?
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Sounds like your phone is screwing up, I'm not sure if you can still do this but maybe contact your providers and ask for text message logs?
Carriers are prohibited from generally logging sms/mms content. You will not be able to get the actual message text due to a privacy ruling a few years ago. At most, you should be able to get the message character count and the exact time/date the messages were sent/received by the phones/network.

This would only be for SMS/MMS only. Anything sent via iMessage/Whatsapp etc via data will not be accessible to your carrier.

OP: If length of the messages are different enough, you should be able to determine what's being sent out. Is it a SMS for sure? Any chance you've got an active Apple ID associated with your number? Used an iPhone in the past previous to your Sony?

In my experience, I'd look at your z3, any memory full warnings? Long message conversation threads? If you're able to confirm that "we should moal" was sent over the network, I'd say its a memory leak or message app glitch at your end.
Start by deleting your message history, especially long ones GF, family etc.) Since you're running an Android, try a different sms app to see if it makes a difference.

I mean you could always do a factory reset as a last resort too.
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Memory is far from full since everything saves to my sd card and I can confirm this as I've seen her phone message log. Has me a bit curious as to how many other people it's done this to but they just let it slide...

I've had the same number for 10+ years, had an iphone prior to this phone but there's nothing from my old phone that's related to this one.

Trying to google it an I've found a few pages with people saying the same thing.

texting error 1
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texing error 3 <- one of the posts says it's rare but it can happen. I find it a little weird that if it's rare then why has it happened to me several times before
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Carriers are prohibited from generally logging sms/mms content. You will not be able to get the actual message text due to a privacy ruling a few years ago. At most, you should be able to get the message character count and the exact time/date the messages were sent/received by the phones/network.

This would only be for SMS/MMS only. Anything sent via iMessage/Whatsapp etc via data will not be accessible to your carrier.
That should at least confirm whether it was sent as SMS or some other method.

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I've had the same number for 10+ years, had an iphone prior to this phone but there's nothing from my old phone that's related to this one.
What did you do with the iPhone? I had to borrow one for a couple weeks and it automatically connected imessage to anyone I was texting with an iphone. That was fine until I swapped back to an Android and the stupid iphones kept sending texts via imessage to the phone I was no longer using (and had no sim) instead of SMSing to my actual phone.
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I have had similar issues... once in a blue moon my texts and my gf's texts would turn into random Chinese characters that didn't make sense, and a lot of double texts would happen even though we only pressed "send" once.

Would love to get insight.

I'm on Rogers, she's Fido, both are Android (S6 for me, Nexus 5 for her).
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That should at least confirm whether it was sent as SMS or some other method.



What did you do with the iPhone? I had to borrow one for a couple weeks and it automatically connected imessage to anyone I was texting with an iphone. That was fine until I swapped back to an Android and the stupid iphones kept sending texts via imessage to the phone I was no longer using (and had no sim) instead of SMSing to my actual phone.
Everything is sent SMS and she has her imessage turned off. I use whatsapp but only for groupchats.

My old iphone is sitting in a drawer with no sim card. I've been using this phone for about 2 years now.
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Everything is sent SMS and she has her imessage turned off. I use whatsapp but only for groupchats.

My old iphone is sitting in a drawer with no sim card. I've been using this phone for about 2 years now.
I'd suspect device before the network in most cases. If you can, get Fido support to confirm what was actually sent out(# of characters). If it's an issue with the SMS gateway like the posts you linked to suggest, the character count on the Bell side might not match. Fido will likely only be able to see the message until it leaves its network into the intercarrier system. Your GF would need to contact Bell to confirm what their network received for the message.

I honestly suspect it's more likely a device issue than an network issue.

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What did you do with the iPhone? I had to borrow one for a couple weeks and it automatically connected imessage to anyone I was texting with an iphone. That was fine until I swapped back to an Android and the stupid iphones kept sending texts via imessage to the phone I was no longer using (and had no sim) instead of SMSing to my actual phone.
To reduce this issue from happening to users that swap from an iPhone IMEI to a non iPhone IMEI, Telus has been sending a SMS to users the deregistration steps when the network detects the IMEI change.

Any time you swap from an iPhone, you're supposed to shut off iMessage on the phone before swapping the SIM out or go to https://selfsolve.apple.com/deregister-imessage/ if the iPhone isn't accessible anymore. Else you end up with what underscore experienced.
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Are you sure you haven't been infected with some kind of malware? Try a clean install or better get a spare phone and see if the result changes.
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I heard from my friend that sometimes he gets random marketing text messages. He got a lot at one point so he decided to call the number to tell them to stop but some lady answered and she had no idea what was happening, like as in her number was hijacked by someone using it to send texts, she had no record on her phone
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I heard from my friend that sometimes he gets random marketing text messages. He got a lot at one point so he decided to call the number to tell them to stop but some lady answered and she had no idea what was happening, like as in her number was hijacked by someone using it to send texts, she had no record on her phone
Yup, this has been happening for a while now. Spammers know you're not going to answer a call/sms from unknown/toll free/fake numbers, so they will program the outbound caller ID to display a random number in your exchange.

So if your number is 604-321-1234, they'll show up as 604-321-4567. If 4567 is a live number, they're going to get calls/sms from the spammed targets. And they're typically irate about the spam calls/sms. So everyone ends up calling their carriers to complain. So everyone is pissed off or scared they got hacked.

A lazy ass spammer called my cell once, and they couldn't even be bothered to use a fake number. They had their dialer programmed to show the ID as the number they were calling.

iMessage spam is popular now too. People who had weak iCloud passwords got hacked, and the accounts used to spam numbers in China, Vietnam etc. Oh, and if the number overseas wasn't online, the message got converted to a SMS and you may have gotten charged for the International Text from your carrier.
https://www.adaptivemobile.com/blog/icloud-ihack-ispam
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What is a moaling? How does one moal themselves?
One gets drunk on their birthday and attempts to use their phone


Years ago tere was a site called evil operator where you could put two phone numbers in and it would make them call each other. I'll admit it was fun to use it years ago as a joke on friends.
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