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Old 03-18-2017, 10:22 PM   #1
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Not issuing C5 DL because im away from BC?

Hi everyone,

Im seeking for advise,

My friend passed her C5 with a rental vehicle, examiner only issued the temporary DL but not the picture ID DL.

After completing her test, the examiner did say, I will call you to confirm that you are here in BC. My friend works over sea and still has her Canadian resident status.

1. She only has one DL, a Canadian one.
2. Works over seas, still a Canadian Resident and visits Vancouver twice a year.

My question is, does ICBC have the right to not issue the C5 DL? She is driving with BCAA international DL along with her temp yellow paper in HK.

Appreciate your help!
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How does she have the BCAA DL if she doesn't already have a DL, they just base it on the Canadian one
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Her license needs to be picked up in person. They don't mail out. This is likely for security measures.
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ur friend mustve said something about working overseas that caused the examiner to take note. i believe a BC DL is issued to a PR of BC, which means staying >6 consecutive months a year in the province. coming back twice a year for a few weeks is not considered PR status.
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@ 68 style - she applied the day she got her C5 (with the yellow paper)
@ DVST 8 - if i remember correctly, we get to choose to either pick it up in person or mailed.
@ Topec - We are onto something here, my firend did mentioned about working overseas. But, she did not declare non resident, she is still paying Canadian Tax. I assume she has the right to obtain a BC DL?

Thankyou for the replies!!
I'm still searching for answers, perhaps, I should give ICBC a call to clearify things up.
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It doesnt sound like she was denied a full class 5 license...?!

Sounds like she took her class 5 test, passed and was given the yellow temp license, which is normal because they make you a new license (card). You dont get the card on the spot.
The card will be mailed to her or she can pick it up, which also sounds like that is the case for her.

So I dont see the part where she was denied a full class 5 at all and not sure what the issue is.

Also, drivers licenses are not a Right and ICBC can deny anyone a license.
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is this new? they mailed my DL to me.
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My friend passed her C5 with a rental vehicle, examiner only issued the temporary DL but not the picture ID DL.
You never get the plastic license right away, you've always got the paper one when you leave ICBC.

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After completing her test, the examiner did say, I will call you to confirm that you are here in BC.
Probably to confirm that your friend will actually receive the license. If they're out of the country but it ships to s BC address, my assumption is ICBC would be concerned about somebody else receiving and using the license.
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Yeap icbc is pretty strict on taking away your license if you dont live in bc. doesnt matter if youre a canadian citizen, you need to be a resident. same thing with msp.
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Lol. ICBC is super dick...father asked "how long will it take to process and for the card to be mailed back to me" right before he was going to pay the fee and the manager denied his application immediately and assumed he wasn't a PR here. He even took the photos and everything.
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yeah, the license is still not mailed to my place, it has been 5 weeks aleady. We are heading to Toronto in 1 week and she needs to drive there. =.=" Here's the thing, there is an option to be a “PR” and a " non PR".

Due to the nature of our work. We have to travel, and my friend needs her C5, the yellow paper is only valid for 3 months and the international license from BCAA is good for 1 year. Any other suggestions?

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It is passport that you can pick up or select to mail to you.

There is nothing you can do but wait. As long as your friend has a photo ID with her to validate her identify she can still drive to Toronto.

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yeah, the license is still not mailed to my place, it has been 5 weeks aleady. We are heading to Toronto in 1 week and she needs to drive there. =.=" Here's the thing, there is an option to be a “PR” and a " non PR".

Due to the nature of our work. We have to travel, and my friend needs her C5, the yellow paper is only valid for 3 months and the international license from BCAA is good for 1 year. Any other suggestions?

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I'm going to save your friend a whole lot of legal trouble here:

- A BCAA issued international license isn't a license to drive. It is still tied to your driver's license and can't be used on its own. In fact, an international license is only a translation of a driver's license if the original isn't in English. I've driven all over the world, and have never needed one because the BC license is already in English. A BCAA license isn't worth the paper it's on and gives you no legal rights whatsoever.

- If she has a HKID card, she cannot drive in HK with a BC license. She is not an insured driver. She can use her BC license to obtain a HK license by filling in some paperwork. HK does not care if you have a license from somewhere else in the world, but BC does. In theory, she can use her HK license and insure cars in BC with a HK license. This is the proper way to do it if she is a HK resident.

- If she visits BC twice a year, and lives in HK most of the year, she is not a BC resident. She is a HK resident. She doesn't have to declare non resident to become a HK resident. If she is outside of BC for longer than 6 months, she is not a BC resident. I can see that she is trying to maintain her BC residency to apply for citizenship, but this is an abuse of the citizenship program.
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Why on earth would you pay Canadian tax's when HK is a fixed ~15%?

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