The Official 2017/2018 Canucks & NHL Thread

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Noooooo missed the first page

[N.V.M.]

one more year of Sedins.

[Tim Budong]

yay?

[whitev70r]

#anyonebutPens

[carisear]

can the Canucks be the first team to go 0-82? stay tuned to find out!

[6o4__boi]

page 2?

fuck life

[roastpuff]

I'm worried about Horvat - why haven't we heard anything about contract news??

[6o4__boi]

i'm not too worried, it'll get done

just cus nothing's getting out doesn't mean nothing's happening
can't remember what the source was but i recall it saying expect it to be done after the draft and maybe even after FA opens

[murd0c]

I think it's because they have mainly been focusing on the draft.

I'm really wondering who we are going to lose in the expansion draft, that's the big thing that's coming up next.

[6o4__boi]

probably Sbisa
hopefully not Gaunce

Never gonna happen but I hope they expose Sutter, i don't understand the love for this guy
He's overpaid for a bottom six guy - $4.375 cap hit til 2021 and he's already 28, never had more than 40 pts a season

Gaunce brings better value despite having no luck with goals. Kid works hard and still has some upside.

[Armind]

Is it draft day yet?

[Tim Budong]

adidas era begins

Twitter

[murd0c]

we so need to jersey's and to get away from the Orca.. Don't get me wrong I don't find it that bad but Orca Bay is toast and we need a change.

[Not really racist!]

[Tim Budong]

don't think that orca is goin away

u cant rebrand this current team with a new logo until the twins are gone

then that will really jumpstart a "new" era for the canucks

[6o4__boi]

MAF has waived his NMC for the purpose of being exposed

looks like he'll be Vegas' starting goalie lol

Sens also asked Phaneuf to waive his NMC for expansion draft

[radioman]

IN

Annual request to have EmperorIS pre-banned.

[Armind]

Petition to get EmperorIS pre-banned:

1. radioman
2. Armind
3.

[murd0c]

I don't agree with the preban since I want to see what stupid shit he has to say before he get's banned.

[radioman]

lmao thats a valid point.

I revoke my request for now.

[Armind]

[Ch28]

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi

MAF has waived his NMC for the purpose of being exposed

looks like he'll be Vegas' starting goalie lol

Sens also asked Phaneuf to waive his NMC for expansion draft

Likely that Anaheim will ask Bieksa to waive as well

[pastarocket]

Ben Kuzma thinks that Dim Jim might consider drafting this d-man Cale Makar of the Brooks Bandits.

Dim Jim even took Makar out for dinner. Did they go to Benning's favorite sushi place?

Cale Makar a possibility for Canucks at No. 5 overall | The Province

They could trade up, they could trade down or they could stand pat.

The only certainty is uncertainty as the Vancouver Canucks prepare for the 2017 National Hockey League draft June 23-24 in Chicago. And depending what the hockey operations department and scouting staff values in splitting evaluation hairs, the consensus that the Canucks will select a centre, should they remain in the fifth selection spot, isn’t a slam-dunk.

If the Canucks believe creative Cale Makar of the Brooks Bandits projects as a top-pairing offensive defenceman — he’s a back-to-back winner of most valuable player and top blueliner in the Canadian Junior Hockey League — scouts say that trumps any available centre predicted to play on the second line.

And if centre Gabriel Valardi is off the draft board and middlemen Cody Glass, Elias Petterssen and Casey Mittelstadt are sitting there, that’s where it’s going to get interesting.

Canucks general manager Jim Benning has two pressing positional needs — a playmaking centre and power play point man — and it’s hard to imagine he won’t take a centre. But hang on.

A year ago, the offensively challenged Canucks were so high on Olli Juolevi, they passed on winger Matthew Tkachuk and the Finnish blueliner became their no-brainer pick at fifth overall.

If Benning believes Makar is a future first-pairing possibility with Juolevi, the GM can point to the Nashville Predators’ mobile and productive back end to help sell that package potential here because Makar has already been compared to a budding Erik Karlsson.

“It’s the rarity of the position,” said Shane Malloy, who has scouted NHL prospects for a dozen years, is the author of The Art of Scouting and co-host of Hockey Prospects Radio on Sirius XM, NHL Network Radio and TSN Radio. “The two positions that are the most rare are an offensive defenceman and power forward.

“A guy who can move the puck, rush it and quarterback the power play — and if it all projects to the NHL level — you’d be crazy not to consider that. You have to. But it’s all about the projection and I wouldn’t be shocked if they (Canucks) took him at No. 5.”

That’s understandable.

The Canucks not only interviewed Makar during the NHL Draft Combine, Benning and Trevor Linden, the president of hockey operations, were among a four-person entourage that took the highly-touted defenceman to dinner later that night to demonstrate their heightened level of interest.

The polite and soft-spoken Makar, a team-first guy, checks a lot of competitive and character boxes.

“My parents raised me right and kept me humble as I was growing up,” said Makar. “I had to work for everything I got and I’m not a guy who likes to talk about himself. I have to give credit to my teammates and all the coaches I’ve had for sure.”

Makar has been compared to a National Basketball Association point guard because of what he does in transition, how he finds teammates and how he finishes. In his last two full seasons in the Alberta Junior Hockey League, he amassed 35 goals and 100 assists in 111 games. That alone commanded attention, but there was much more.

At the 2017 World Junior A Championship in December, he had five goals and four assists in eight games and that’s when the light bulb went on. As much as Makar set a goal to be the top-ranked defenceman for this draft, his performance at the worlds and the added attention only heighten his resolve.

Makar also assisted on both goals in the RBC Cup final but the Bandits fell 3-2 in overtime to Ontario’s Cobourg Cougars.

All that is why the 18-year-old Calgary native maintained his Central Scouting Bureau rank of North American skaters — 10th at midterm and ninth in the final assessment. The 5-foot-11, 184 pound blueliner added leg strength and quickness and that led 24 goals and 51 assists this season.


Makar has been slotted as high as third overall in mock drafts because of what he did on various stages. It was Karlsson like.

“People started comparing and I started watching highlights and saw that we have a lot of similar tendencies like breaking out the puck and walking the line,” added Makar. “Before that, I kind of looked at Shayne Gostisbehere (Philadelphia Flyers) who came out of college.

“One of the things I’ve noticed in his game is deceptiveness. It’s something I had never seen at such a high level and something I had in my game, so I kind of kept tabs on him.”

The 5-foot-11, 186 pound Gostisbehere had 46 points (17-29) in his 2015-16 rookie season — and has signed a six-year, $27 million US extension — while Makar has committed to the University of Massachusetts-Amherst. He wants to follow a similar development path because he will play less and practise more and study business marketing, which runs in his family.

Maker was drafted by the Medicine Hat Tigers of the Western Hockey League, if you’re looking for another Canucks connection, but he has a cousin who took the NCAA route and is sold on that route.

There’s a scouting consensus that Makar is the most dynamic puck mover in this draft. Speed and creativity allow him easier zone entries, a big requirement in today’s NHL game.

Even though some doubt the competitive level of the AJHL or any other Tier 2 league — despite 13 grads advancing to this year’s Stanley Cup Final — a closer look reveals an additional challenge Makar has handled at this level. The AJHL allows six overage players and the Western Hockey League three.

“They’re bigger, stronger and faster — and maybe not as skilled — but as a smaller defenceman, you have these behemoths coming down on you on the forecheck and when they’re trying to kill you, you see how good the player is,” stressed Malloy.

“They’re gunning for him because he’s the No. 1 defenceman and yet there he still is making plays.”

Makar also made his mark during NHL Combine testing. While there’s great debate as to the validity of some of the testing in how it converts to skilled players, he finished 10th in the vertical jump.

“That shows a tremendous amount of power generation,” noted Malloy. “Most of the tests are irrelevant. The ones that make a difference in projections are the standing long jump because that’s power, the vertical jump, the agility test and the VO2 max (oxygen consumption).”

Regardless of testing debates, one this is clear. Nobody doubts Makar has passed all the crucial tests

[Ch28]

Makar would be an excellent pick at #3 if the Canucks can somehow manage to swing a trade with Dallas. It'll still give them a pick at the 5th spot to pick one of Vilardi, Glass, Mittelstadt, or Pettersson

Problem with Makar has always been the fact that he's playing in a tier 2 junior league, so you have no idea if his stats and play is inflated because he's playing against lesser talented players. One good thing he has going for him is that the AJHL allows 6 overagers, while the CHL only allows 3, so it's possible he's also playing against bigger guys.

He's the biggest risk/reward in the entire draft, because Craig Button said he plays exactly like Erik Karlsson when he was in his draft year.

[quasi]

Watch Dim Jim trade next years 1st to Dallas for this years 3rd overall, proceed to continue sucking win the draft lottery next year and set Dallas up nicely for years to come. It's our destiny, we are all Canucks.