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Messerschmitt · 07-27-2017, 11:54 AM

Looking to register my out of province car without having to do the money grabbing inspection. Car was registered before in the province, but drove it for 3 years in another and was registered there.

Still have my old insurance and registration slip from BC. Can I just bring that and request a insurance "renewal". Or will they have it in the system that was registered in another province?

Hakkaboy · 07-27-2017, 02:09 PM

Many years ago, I lent my car to my bro-in-law so that he could drive it in the US for a few months since I was going to be away out of the country. It was registered and insured in WA.

When I came back and brought my car up to be insured, I had to take it for a stupid BC inspection. Now my car is all of a sudden "out of province" car. If you could do it without inspection, then good for you.

pherio · 07-27-2017, 04:45 PM

Will need to be reinspected. But if it has been registered here before, it should be easily reverted back if it needed to be modified when it left.

JSALES · 07-27-2017, 07:55 PM

Speaking of out of province vehicle inspections, how do people pass with their imports from Japan usually?

Messerschmitt · 07-27-2017, 09:17 PM

So will it basically be in the system that it was registered out of province? How would they know? I plan to bring my old papers that the car was registered on, including the old BC plate and plainly ask "i'd like a renewal".

Not possible?

Kalize · 08-09-2017, 03:24 PM

^^^

they know...the system lets the agent know that the vehicle left BC.

Hehe · 08-09-2017, 03:49 PM

Sorry to hijack the thread, but my question is more or less the same and I felt it could be useful in the same thread.

I'm looking to takeover a lease from some guy in AB. So, credit application is already submitted, hopefully we'd get it back by weekend.

The question now is, I'm actually looking to fly to AB and drive it back (having a mini road-trip at once). What kind of insurance do I get for this? I called ICBC and they provide something called the binder of insurance, but that would only cover for me driving in BC. Thus I'd have to get another for AB. But when I called to a broker in AB today, they said I need an AB license.

So, has anyone done this before? Is the guy in AB who I spoke with has no idea what he's doing or ICBC is giving me a complete BS?

Isn't there like a temporary insurance that covers the vehicle for a few days until I can drive it back to BC and have it properly licensed and insured?

nsx042003 · 08-09-2017, 05:01 PM

^ ICBC is so retarded...that's like saying no one is covered when doing a road trip to other provinces or heading down to the states. Which is probably true, just that nobody really had an issue with it.

Take it easy and drive defensively i guess, in the event you get into an accident, hopefully you aren't at fault and it'll be alright.

underscore · 08-09-2017, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Messerschmitt

So will it basically be in the system that it was registered out of province? How would they know?

The province you're bringing it to is going to tell them? They don't want multiple registrations for the same vehicle floating around.

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Originally Posted by Hehe

So, has anyone done this before? Is the guy in AB who I spoke with has no idea what he's doing or ICBC is giving me a complete BS?

Isn't there like a temporary insurance that covers the vehicle for a few days until I can drive it back to BC and have it properly licensed and insured?

From my understanding the AB guy was wrong. You should be able to get temp insurance in AB for the purposes of driving the vehicle to BC.

Edison_Chen · 08-09-2017, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hehe

Sorry to hijack the thread, but my question is more or less the same and I felt it could be useful in the same thread.

I'm looking to takeover a lease from some guy in AB. So, credit application is already submitted, hopefully we'd get it back by weekend.

The question now is, I'm actually looking to fly to AB and drive it back (having a mini road-trip at once). What kind of insurance do I get for this? I called ICBC and they provide something called the binder of insurance, but that would only cover for me driving in BC. Thus I'd have to get another for AB. But when I called to a broker in AB today, they said I need an AB license.

So, has anyone done this before? Is the guy in AB who I spoke with has no idea what he's doing or ICBC is giving me a complete BS?

Isn't there like a temporary insurance that covers the vehicle for a few days until I can drive it back to BC and have it properly licensed and insured?

The binder Apv38 is valid insurance when you purchase a vehicle out of province. You buy the binder up to 30 days. This is only insurance only and not a license. In order to use the binder as insurance you will also need valid licensing too from out of province. Alberta can sell you an in-transit permit.. it will also depend on how long they will sell you the license for...

Hehe · 08-09-2017, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Edison_Chen

The binder Apv38 is valid insurance when you purchase a vehicle out of province. You buy the binder up to 30 days. This is only insurance only and not a license. In order to use the binder as insurance you will also need valid licensing too from out of province. Alberta can sell you an in-transit permit.. it will also depend on how long they will sell you the license for...

I get all that. But I find it stupid to sell an insurance that only covers BC.

Shouldn't it be like any other car insurance we have here that has NA coverage? (or at least CDN)

Going to call a few other insurance broker in AB tomorrow. I read online about someone doing similar thing but to ON, and AB was able to sell him an insurance that covers the entire CDN territory.

Qmx323 · 08-09-2017, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JSALES

Speaking of out of province vehicle inspections, how do people pass with their imports from Japan usually?

http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/CVSE/vehicle...PDF/MV3199.pdf

Edison_Chen · 08-09-2017, 07:12 PM

The binder is valid insurance coverage for anywhere in North America. Even if you buy a vehicle from Florida and require 25 days to drive back, as long as you buy some type of licensing thing you are covered in N. America. The hardest part to make sure the license is valid (it can expiry, there could be specific restrictions, another state/province might not recognize it) and etc..

Another thing is, once you arrive in BC, and the license expires, but your binder is still valid,you can technically buy a free TOP to get an inspection done.

Oshiguru · 08-09-2017, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hehe

Sorry to hijack the thread, but my question is more or less the same and I felt it could be useful in the same thread.

I'm looking to takeover a lease from some guy in AB. So, credit application is already submitted, hopefully we'd get it back by weekend.

The question now is, I'm actually looking to fly to AB and drive it back (having a mini road-trip at once). What kind of insurance do I get for this? I called ICBC and they provide something called the binder of insurance, but that would only cover for me driving in BC. Thus I'd have to get another for AB. But when I called to a broker in AB today, they said I need an AB license.

So, has anyone done this before? Is the guy in AB who I spoke with has no idea what he's doing or ICBC is giving me a complete BS?

Isn't there like a temporary insurance that covers the vehicle for a few days until I can drive it back to BC and have it properly licensed and insured?

ICBC person at a local insurance place told me a similar story. I was planning on buying an E46 m3 in Nevada and they said I need a binder of insurance but it will only cover me when i'm in BC. They said it's my responsibility to get temp "highway insurance" from Nevada, Oregon, and Washington and that the Binder covers me from the border to my home. The binder is ~10 days from what date you start and within that 10 days, you can get "free" daily tags to bring cars to/from shops for work or OOP inspection.

Edit:
From ICBC:
http://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registra...-into-B-C.aspx
"To drive a vehicle home from the U.S., you'll need to:

Buy temporary insurance from ICBC called a "Binder for Owner's Interim Certificate of Insurance" from your Autoplan broker. If you're outside of B.C., call 1-800-328-4484, Monday to Friday, 8:15 - 4:30 PST.

Buy an in-transit permit from the state in which you buy your vehicle. Please note, most U.S. states will not issue this permit without proof of insurance.

If you cancel the binder of insurance before its effective date, the full premium will be refunded. There are no refunds on binders of insurance once the policy is in effect."

Hehe · 08-09-2017, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Edison_Chen

The binder is valid insurance coverage for anywhere in North America. Even if you buy a vehicle from Florida and require 25 days to drive back, as long as you buy some type of licensing thing you are covered in BC. The hardest part to make sure the license is valid (it can expiry, there could be specific restrictions, another state/province might not recognize it) and etc..

Another thing is, once you arrive in BC, and the license expires, but your binder is still valid,you can technically buy a free TOP to get an inspection done.

Ok... so, ICBC agent was wrong too.

Let me put it down the way I understand it now. I only need 2 things:
1. Binder of insurance from any ICBC broker
2. AB In-Transit Permit (as a temporary license plate) from AB brokers.

Is that correct?

And then once I get back to BC I can just get the plate and insurance accordingly.

Oshiguru · 08-09-2017, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hehe

Ok... so, ICBC agent was wrong too.

Let me put it down the way I understand it now. I only need 2 things:
1. Binder of insurance from any ICBC broker
2. AB In-Transit Permit (as a temporary license plate) from AB brokers.

Is that correct?

And then once I get back to BC I can just get the plate and insurance accordingly.

https://www.servicealberta.ca/Types-...nce-plates.cfm

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In-transit permit
Alberta doesn’t have a temporary licence plate but we can issue a temporary vehicle registration permit in some situations.

An in-transit permit allows a person to move a vehicle or trailer that doesn’t have a valid vehicle registration and licence plate.

The in-transit permit can be used in the following situations:

to move the vehicle between 2 points in Canada
to tow a vehicle
for demonstration/test drive purposes,
for repairs and servicing
for inspection purposes.
The in-transit permit is issued for a specific term:

moving from point A to B (for a maximum of 3 days within Alberta, or a maximum of 7 days out of province)
towing (for a maximum of 3 days within Alberta, or a maximum of 7 days out of province)
for car dealership demonstration/test drive purposes (for a maximum of 7 days)
repairs/servicing (for a maximum of 7 days)
salvage vehicles (for a maximum of 24 hours)
When you’re moving the vehicle from one province to another, the starting point or ending point must be in Alberta.

Request an in-transit permit
To request an in-transit permit when using it in Alberta only, you need the following documents:

identification
proof of insurance
To request an in-transit permit when using inside and outside of Alberta, you need the following documents:

identification
proof of insurance
proof of ownership
When an unregistered vehicle or trailer is carrying a load, a load licensing permit is needed in addition to the in-transit permit. Please see Alberta Transportation’s website for more information.

underscore · 08-09-2017, 07:56 PM

I'd check on the AB permit first, as it may cover you Canada-wide. That said you're probably best off having both just in case you have an incident while in BC (I'm assuming ICBC would be easier to deal with vs an Albertan company if you're in BC).

Edison_Chen · 08-09-2017, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hehe

Ok... so, ICBC agent was wrong too.

Let me put it down the way I understand it now. I only need 2 things:
1. Binder of insurance from any ICBC broker
2. AB In-Transit Permit (as a temporary license plate) from AB brokers.

Is that correct?

And then once I get back to BC I can just get the plate and insurance accordingly.

Yes your correct. When you go into brokers office, recommend you bring in BOS or lease agreement (proof that you are buying or leasing the vehicle). The insurance agent will sell you the binder on their computer and the system will also check if you have any ICBC/MV/ non MV debt too.

Hehe · 08-09-2017, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore

I'd check on the AB permit first, as it may cover you Canada-wide. That said you're probably best off having both just in case you have an incident while in BC (I'm assuming ICBC would be easier to deal with vs an Albertan company if you're in BC).

Yeah, that's the idea. I want coverage from ICBC if at all possible. But if it's too overly complicated, I'd go another option.

I was talking to my friend who lives in AB, he said as last resort, just register it first as an AB car using his addy and switch over once I get back to BC. At most I'm losing whatever the plate costs.

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Originally Posted by Edison_Chen

Yes your correct. When you go into brokers office, recommend you bring in BOS or lease agreement (proof that you are buying or leasing the vehicle). The insurance agent will sell you the binder on their computer and the system will also check if you have any ICBC/MV/ non MV debt too.

What if I don't have it? I mean, I'd be in AB to sign all the docs, which I assume I'd only get the BOS by then and not while I'm still here.