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Old 09-09-2017, 10:28 AM   #26
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Wow.... honestly that's just not a maneuver I would expect the MB driver to pull off... Can't even imagine their reasoning for that move.

Claim injuries, you're not really screwing the MB driver as that's what insurance is for. As previous posters have also said, soft tissue damage can surface long after the fact. I was hit by a car as a pedestrian when I was 15 and my knee problems didn't surface until like 8 months after.
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There are a lot of people telling you to speak to a lawyer, but does anyone actually have any real life experience dealing with an injury claims lawyer?

There's so many of them out there nowadays that I imagine it'd be hard for OP to decide.
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Defensive driving! That Mercedes is freaking retarded, but god damn was it obvious that he was going to make that turn... front end lifting, wheels turned... dude, don't ever get a motorcycle license... I'd be dead 10 times over by now if I hadn't already braked/stopped for moron drivers turning left in front of me like this when on my bike.
Yup he was accelerating into the intersection as well

OP is driving like either he's the only car on the road, or assumes everyone around him follows the rules absolutely perfectly. This was bound to happen eventually. Definitely don't ride a motorcycle
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rewatched it a couple of times and can say its 100% the mercedes fault. Even though it does look like you speeded up a little bit.

and not claiming injuries is lighting money on fire, you will get money lol. I was involved in two accidents in like three years. One of them getting my car written off.

You will notice injuries. On my first incident which was a small rear end bump, I felt the injuries a couple days later
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A lady ran a red light and hit my car. Low speed impact, but my neck still hurts six months later.

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From watching the video over and over..you did have some time to really slam the brakes on. I heard no screeching of tires on your part to show that you attempted to avoid the accident. Thats the only thing that ICBC might say to you
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From watching the video over and over..you did have some time to really slam the brakes on. I heard no screeching of tires on your part to show that you attempted to avoid the accident. Thats the only thing that ICBC might say to you
I also agree , But I also noticed it seemed like he also kinda turned towards the passenger door. Where as had he stayed in the left lane and slowed a little it could have been avoided from what I can see. Might even be a 50/50 because he changed lanes in the intersection.
And we wonder why ICBC is raising rates.


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I was in an accident last year. Impact was only at 20 km/hr. I thought I was fine after the accident, but within 24 hours my neck tightened up. Took 5 months of massage and then physio to finally be good enough to fully resume sports and gym.

Wait a 48 to 72 hours and then see a doctor. If anything, they need to record it in your file..
so true. my neck siezed recently and it kept having spasms sporadically but prominently under stress.

Chiro, Physio, and RMT for 6 months it's about 90% good and not noticeable but I think another 6 months to fully get back to normalness. The last 10% of recovery is stubborn.
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I also agree , But I also noticed it seemed like he also kinda turned towards the passenger door. Where as had he stayed in the left lane and slowed a little it could have been avoided from what I can see. Might even be a 50/50 because he changed lanes in the intersection.
And we wonder why ICBC is raising rates.


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I think 50/50 seems a little harsh. I think you could argue the lane change was to avoid. I'm sure OP has watched this a million times and is wondering why he/she didn't do all sorts of things. It's always much clearer when you've seen the replay.

ICBC rates are going up for a bunch of reasons, one of which is that everyone is suing everyone else. It's half ICBC's fault for being such dicks in recent years. Now you have to take them to court since they don't seem to want to pay a fair amount.
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Yup, passed by that intersection on Thursday, what a mess... I'm guessing it all was over in a flash and both drivers were just shocked at the situation. I would've been too if I was mindlessly driving going through on a green and the other car suddenly turned left. It's not like we are observant of every single minute detail per every single second that passes while we're driving...
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So sorry Jacky(Ray too if you're reading this), you really loved that car.

To answer your question on depreciation; I had a $10,000 claim in one accident on my VW GTI. I wasn't at fault and I was concerned I would be at a loss due to the accident if I were to sell. This is called accelerated depreciation.

Industry standards on depreciation IIRC is 50% of the repair costs. In one accident alone, my car with a $10,000 claim would have accelerated depreciation of $5000 compared to similar vehicles of the same year, model, and mileage. For example, $25,000 for an accident free car, mine would be $20,000.

You would need to find a vehicle appraiser to determine the value of your car and how much this repair would affect your plans in the future to sell. However, this is only worth pursuing if the car was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in value. You would also have to actually sell the car so that this loss is actually realized, in order to prove the loss.

Seeing the airbag being deployed and the damage in the photo, I'm 90% certain the vehicle will be written off and the value will be assessed from before this accident.

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I also agree , But I also noticed it seemed like he also kinda turned towards the passenger door. Where as had he stayed in the left lane and slowed a little it could have been avoided from what I can see. Might even be a 50/50 because he changed lanes in the intersection.
And we wonder why ICBC is raising rates.


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1) It's not illegal to change lanes in an intersection

2) ICBC rate hikes are because of bad management, increasing injury claims, and higher repair costs on more expensive parts and repairs on all the bells and whistles new cars have nowadays.
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1) It's not illegal to change lanes in an intersection
is this true?

i thought it's the same as crossing over a solid line...technically not allowed but no one really enforces it
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is this true?
Wow, I couldn't believe this is true. I had to go and looked it up.
Apparently, it is perfectly legal to change lanes in the middle of the intersection.
Calgary Traffic Ticket Tips Scroll down to: Traffic Ticket Tip: Intersection Lane Changes

When learning to drive 16 years ago, I was taught to never change lanes in the middle of the intersection...
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Legal or not, that is a really stupid thing to do!
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Wow, I couldn't believe this is true. I had to go and looked it up.
Apparently, it is perfectly legal to change lanes in the middle of the intersection.
Calgary Traffic Ticket Tips Scroll down to: Traffic Ticket Tip: Intersection Lane Changes

When learning to drive 16 years ago, I was taught to never change lanes in the middle of the intersection...
lol, here is the BC rules, although it's the same as Calgary.
Changing Lanes in Intersections | DriveSmartBC

I feel there's no rule in place due to T intersections or the small pedestrian ones where it doesn't seem to make as big of a difference. But they definitely should have a rule for big intersection...


This is why when I make right turns from inside streets, I try to make sure it's completely clear in every lane. Just in case of a lane changer.
But based on this new info, seems like maybe I should also wait until it's fully clear on big intersections too, since they can legally change lanes through the intersection...
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Curious how much would it cost for a lawyer just to write a strongly suggested email/letter?
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lol, here is the BC rules, although it's the same as Calgary.
Changing Lanes in Intersections | DriveSmartBC

I feel there's no rule in place due to T intersections or the small pedestrian ones where it doesn't seem to make as big of a difference. But they definitely should have a rule for big intersection...


This is why when I make right turns from inside streets, I try to make sure it's completely clear in every lane. Just in case of a lane changer.
But based on this new info, seems like maybe I should also wait until it's fully clear on big intersections too, since they can legally change lanes through the intersection...
i was always taught to have at least 2 lanes clear (if there's >2 lanes of course) when you're making a right. just seems safer. then you get all these idiots making rights when oncoming traffic has a left turn signal into 2 lanes and it's just super sketchy.
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Curious how much would it cost for a lawyer just to write a strongly suggested email/letter?
I don't think there are many lawyers (if any) that would simply write a letter in an effort to fight liability in an ICBC claim based on a flat-fee or retainer. Generally speaking, even fighting liability is a series of telephone and email negotiations and in order for a lawyer to do this, he would have to compile all the evidence available to him from the driver, ICBC and the third party.

When a lawyer helps a client fight a case to obtain a monetary value, it's usually contingent upon receiving a percentage of the money won. If a lawyer helps a client get $20,000 for a vehicle write-off, that lawyer would want a cut from that money he fought to get for the client.

As for speaking to a lawyer, I have reached out to OP and helped him understand the process of his claim, things he should do to ensure he gets better physically and how to protect himself from skipping out on treatments. Everyone should know that whether or not you are at fault for the accident, you are entitled to have medical treatments covered for injuries that have been sustained as a result of an accident. I believe most people are not aware of this and many lawyers will neglect to tell their clients.

I have gotten into the field of fighting liability as well as helping clients get fair compensation for vehicles that are written off. The power of a lawyer on a file with ICBC goes a long way, believe it or not.

I am happy to help answer any general questions for any members on RevScene that have had the unfortunate luck of getting into an MVA. The number one goal is to ensure you seek medical attention and have your medical providers assess your injuries so you can make a quick progression back to health. As mentioned earlier, your injuries won't usually become apparent until a few days after the accident and maybe even a few weeks. Lastly, as I mentioned to OP, an ICBC personal injury claim isn't a "pay-day." It's to simply make you whole again. When I work with my clients, I ensure we both have the same expectations and that is just compensation. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Wow, I couldn't believe this is true. I had to go and looked it up.
Apparently, it is perfectly legal to change lanes in the middle of the intersection.
Calgary Traffic Ticket Tips Scroll down to: Traffic Ticket Tip: Intersection Lane Changes

When learning to drive 16 years ago, I was taught to never change lanes in the middle of the intersection...
I also thought it was illegal, I read somewhere it was but I guess I'm wrong. My dad taught me never to do it either...
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What's worse than people changing lanes in the middle of an intersection is people signalling right and then blow through an intersection.
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My road test guy said to me after I asked if it was legal to switch lanes in an intersection way back in the day

"Just because its legal, doesn't mean its safe." Applies to many things in life.
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What's worse than people changing lanes in the middle of an intersection is people signalling right and then blow through an intersection.
they could be just pulling into a driveway immediately after the intersection

always assume signals are used only for courtesy to communicate intent...it doesn't actually seem to matter when ICBC looks at cases.
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