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12-23-2017, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer  what technology isnt slow after 3 years of use? unless youre buying high end shit, a sub $1000 laptop, pc, tablet, etc. will all be substantially slower after 3 years | For anyone who doesn't game, PCs can easily last quite a long time nowadays without losing too much (any?) usability. My PC is still largely the same as it was when I bought it some 5+ years ago, except that I've upgraded the drives multiple times (switching to SSD and larger capacity HDD as time went on). It was an IVB i5, so it was only a sub-$1k mid range build when I first put it together. I seem to think it was only ~$800-ish when I built it. But of course, with all the additional HDDs and replacement drives I've tossed into it now, I'm sure it has cost me over $1k now.
My dad is still using a Dell Windows 7 laptop he purchased some 7 years ago. It has gotten slower, yes, but I attribute that to be Windows 10's bloating problem more than anything else. I've been meaning to replace its spinny HDD with an SSD, and I've even bought a replacement SSD for him twice. But I still haven't got a chance to get to it before something else happened and I threw the SSD into another box.
My Nexus 7 (tablet) is probably around 4 years old now? Speedwise, it is still perfectly usable. It may or may not have gotten slower. YouTube sometimes crashes now, and the tablet needs a reboot when it does. The battery doesn't last as long as before. But overall, I don't think it has slowed down very much at all. A comparable iPad from the same time frame is probably obsolete and/or unusable by now.
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12-23-2017, 02:01 PM
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Personally ive never had a problem with apple slowing devices because im always in an upgrade cycle every 2 years or so, but to expect an iphone 5 to work very well when we are into 8/X territory is a little much imo..
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12-23-2017, 02:04 PM
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So if someone buys a iPhone 6S new because it was cheap on a contract, and they upgrade to the latest software is it throttled even though the battery is new?
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12-23-2017, 02:16 PM
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My NES loads up Contra just as fast as it did when I was a kid. | Lol Nintendo is probably the exception
NES, SNES, Game cube etc unconnected devices that work the same 15+ years later
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12-23-2017, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer what technology isnt slow after 3 years of use? unless youre buying high end shit, a sub $1000 laptop, pc, tablet, etc. will all be substantially slower after 3 years
Personally ive never had a problem with apple slowing devices because im always in an upgrade cycle every 2 years or so, but to expect an iphone 5 to work very well when we are into 8/X territory is a little much imo..
Blanket IOS updates wouldnt be possible and the people with the 5 would probably be bitching that they are losing out on the functionality of the new IOS if they werent part of the update | My laptop is just as fast now as it was 10 years ago when I bought it (actually faster, since I upgraded to an SSD and increased the RAM)
Now it may not be able to run the the latest software that wasn't out 10 years ago (though I'd argue that there's nothing I need to do on it that didn't exist back then)
The key is that it is not being slowed down purposefully by the manufacturer. The battery isn't as good as it used to be, but at least I get full speed out of it while it lasts.
What a disaster it would be if laptops were actually de-tuned like iphones... I wonder if Apple does that to their macbooks? 
My Nexus 5 was just as fast as it was 4+ years ago when I bought it too. Again, the latest software may bring issues, and it would be more pronounced on a phone than a laptop for sure. But I'd probably still be using it if it wasn't starting to break down physically.
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12-23-2017, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark So if someone buys a iPhone 6S new because it was cheap on a contract, and they upgrade to the latest software is it throttled even though the battery is new? | exactly my thoughts.. or even the iPhone 7
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12-23-2017, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon Blows my mind how Apple fans are actually accepting this as a good thing.  | Aaaaaaaand cue the android users
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12-24-2017, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer what technology isnt slow after 3 years of use? unless youre buying high end shit, a sub $1000 laptop, pc, tablet, etc. will all be substantially slower after 3 years | Why would it slow down? The standard/perception for what is considered fast will change, and the system requirements for new software will increase, but the hardware itself will run the same.
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12-28-2017, 07:17 PM
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ffs why not just give users the option of disabling the throttling?  | |
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12-28-2017, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero ffs why not just give users the option of disabling the throttling? | Maybe if their explanation of saving dying batteries was actually true, they might have done that  | |
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12-28-2017, 09:44 PM
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my wife still uses a 5s...too bad it's not included in the battery replacement...
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12-28-2017, 11:23 PM
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My 4 year old Lumia 1020 hasn't slowed down... lol... Battery still holds up for about a day and it's still virgin, haven't opened her up yet. Yes, it's still my daily driver 
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12-29-2017, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cdizzle my wife still uses a 5s...too bad it's not included in the battery replacement... | "Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $64 — from $99 to $35 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018."
Your 5S looks like its part of the replacement program. I wish that it applied to iPad's too as the battery on my iPad Air is bloody awful.
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12-29-2017, 10:35 AM
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#41 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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The Verge also reached out to Google, Samsung, LG, and Sony for comment on whether their phone processors are throttled in response to aging batteries. A Sony spokesperson said a response would be delayed by the holidays, and a Samsung spokesperson said the company was looking into it.
| Safe to say Samsung does the same throttling for older batteries. If they didn't they'd be all over this with commercials and an announcement mocking Apple.
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12-29-2017, 10:48 AM
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I'd like to see the code that throttles CPU frequency based on battery voltage. I'd bet they indiscriminately throttle for device obsolescence.
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12-29-2017, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp My laptop is just as fast now as it was 10 years ago when I bought it (actually faster, since I upgraded to an SSD and increased the RAM)
Now it may not be able to run the the latest software that wasn't out 10 years ago (though I'd argue that there's nothing I need to do on it that didn't exist back then)
The key is that it is not being slowed down purposefully by the manufacturer. The battery isn't as good as it used to be, but at least I get full speed out of it while it lasts.
What a disaster it would be if laptops were actually de-tuned like iphones... I wonder if Apple does that to their macbooks?
My Nexus 5 was just as fast as it was 4+ years ago when I bought it too. Again, the latest software may bring issues, and it would be more pronounced on a phone than a laptop for sure. But I'd probably still be using it if it wasn't starting to break down physically. | My 6 year old Dell laptop throttles the CPU to 0.78GHz because it no longer recognizes my Dell charger as a 65w charger and also stopped charging the battery.
Now I have to crack it open and replace the DC jack and hopefully it works and it's not a mobo issue
Not saying Apple is better, but it does happen with (Dell) laptops unfortunately
Hopefully USB-C chargers will eliminate this in the future
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12-29-2017, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline Safe to say Samsung does the same throttling for older batteries. If they didn't they'd be all over this with commercials and an announcement mocking Apple. | Samsung's response Product quality has been and will always be Samsung Mobile’s top priority. We ensure extended battery life of Samsung mobile devices through multi-layer safety measures, which include software algorithms that govern the battery charging current and charging duration. We do not reduce CPU performance through software updates over the lifecycles of the phone.
So you can bet your sweet ass they are going to be making commercials, its not out yet cause they are probably waiting on Spielberg to direct this masterpiece.
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12-29-2017, 12:41 PM
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When it comes to Li-based batteries, all of them are subjected to different charging algorithms as the batteries age -- they don't get recharged as fast, and they don't get recharged back to as high a capacity compared to when they were new. Anyone not agreeing to / challenging the rationale of this is an idiot because this is absolutely required to ensure the safe operations of the battery / device.
Of course, this is different than what Apple has done.
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12-29-2017, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Koflach "Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $64 — from $99 to $35 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018."
Your 5S looks like its part of the replacement program. I wish that it applied to iPad's too as the battery on my iPad Air is bloody awful. | Good news for people living near Apple stores but what about people with no Apple store near by. There is no Apple store on Vancouver Island. The 5 Apple stores we have in BC are all in the lower mainland.
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12-29-2017, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Good news for people living near Apple stores but what about people with no Apple store near by. There is no Apple store on Vancouver Island. The 5 Apple stores we have in BC are all in the lower mainland. | That kinda sucks, you do have almost a full year though. You can still pre-book an appointment online right?
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12-29-2017, 07:47 PM
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soooooo ..if i were to take the ip6 to get the battery replaced, the so-called throttling software is intelligent enough to recognize this and allow the phone to perform at full speed???? i doubt it.
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12-29-2017, 08:41 PM
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Google trends show spikes of people searching "iphone is slow" right before the launch of each model
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12-29-2017, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hakkaboy My 6 year old Dell laptop throttles the CPU to 0.78GHz because it no longer recognizes my Dell charger as a 65w charger and also stopped charging the battery.
Now I have to crack it open and replace the DC jack and hopefully it works and it's not a mobo issue
Not saying Apple is better, but it does happen with (Dell) laptops unfortunately
Hopefully USB-C chargers will eliminate this in the future | that's not from a bios update, is it?
it's a defect
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