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Old 01-12-2018, 11:55 AM   #1
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GM unveils autonomous vehicle with no steering wheel or pedals, plans for 2019 launch

I think GM just skipped a step or 2 and went right to the end.




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If you design a car with no steering wheel or pedals.. why are all the seats still facing forward as if you're driving.. lol
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Regulation is nowhere near a place to allow for anything like this. 2019 launch for what?
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If you design a car with no steering wheel or pedals.. why are all the seats still facing forward as if you're driving.. lol
Don't most people like to face the direction they're going? Prevent motion sickness maybe? If a mini-van or a big SUV, front seats might have option to swivel and face rear.
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Don't most people like to face the direction they're going? Prevent motion sickness maybe? If a mini-van or a big SUV, front seats might have option to swivel and face rear.
I think thats just a result of how we've always sat in cars. If a vehicle doesn't even have the option to be drivable, I would expect the interior layout to be be more activity oriented.
As for the motion sickness, that's usually more related to what you're doing while moving, like reading, or even swivelling, rather than your initial orientation.
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Regulation is nowhere near a place to allow for anything like this. 2019 launch for what?
For launching into the crowd.

It may just beat Mustangs at this one.
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The first thing I think of is “how am I gonna get it inside the shop and stop between the two post hoist so I can change the tires if it has no controls”
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so GM has perfected Autonomous tech already ahead of Elon Musk?
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Remember there’s 3 ways to do something. The right way, the wrong way, and the American way.

Which of course the American way is just the wrong way, but faster
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The first thing I think of is “how am I gonna get it inside the shop and stop between the two post hoist so I can change the tires if it has no controls”
won't need to service them when they drive off a cliff
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there are so many unanswered and unproven questions with a completely driverless car. on the road between two set points, sure.

but how does it operate in situations that require the driver to directly control it? can you ask it "hey car, can you back into the driveway on the left side instead of the middle, but leave 5 feet behind it so i can load something into the back?"
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^ Don't even worry about something that complex, how's it gonna park in a snowy lot with the lines obscured? Or even drive down a snowy road?

GM is also one of the last companies I'd trust to provide me with a car that has no actual controls, especially when nobody else has done it yet.
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I think thats just a result of how we've always sat in cars. If a vehicle doesn't even have the option to be drivable, I would expect the interior layout to be be more activity oriented.
As for the motion sickness, that's usually more related to what you're doing while moving, like reading, or even swivelling, rather than your initial orientation.
I can't imagine a situation where you'd want to face any direction other than the way you're going. The only times people sit backwards or sideways in a vehicle is to accommodate more seating.
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at least make it more bang-friendly
recline-able swivel seats and dim-able windows
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I can't imagine a situation where you'd want to face any direction other than the way you're going. The only times people sit backwards or sideways in a vehicle is to accommodate more seating.
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recline-able swivel seats and dim-able windows
asking the real questions here....
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Everyone talking about facing forward like it matters? Ever sit on Skytrain, train or Bus? Not all seats face forward. The fact it even has seats shaped like that are odd. Why not have couch or limo style seating? There has to be a manual way to steer and drive for tight conditions. With Electric steering, throttle, and brakes it can all be done on the touch screen or bluetooth to your phone.

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Everyone talking about facing forward like it matters? Ever sit on Skytrain, train or Bus? Not all seats face forward. The fact it even has seats shaped like that are odd. Why not have couch or limo style seating? There has to be a manual way to steer and drive for tight conditions. With Electric steering, throttle, and brakes it can all be done on the touch screen or bluetooth to your phone.

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Maybe the cost and all the time it would take for safety testing?

Really who cares how the seats are positioned. It's like buying a Ferrari and complaining about the cup holders.
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So what the insurance cost on one of these?
Is the car set to a Max speed of 50 km/h since that is the legal limit?
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So what the insurance cost on one of these?
Is the car set to a Max speed of 50 km/h since that is the legal limit?
Highway to Kelowna is 120km/hr bruh.

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1st thing I notice, why do u still need a rear view mirror? It's a self driving car lol
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1st thing I notice, why do u still need a rear view mirror? It's a self driving car lol
Dont think thats a rearview mirror.. lol.. its for senors and cameras...
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