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Old 02-06-2018, 06:17 PM   #26
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The assholes on Craigslist never ceases to amaze me. I had this guy complain about the colour of the car and wanted a few gs off because he would have to repaint it. Im like the colour was stated clearly in the ad along with all the photos.... Why did you even come see it if you didn't like the colour.
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nothing pisses me off more then people asking "what is your lowest price" "what is your bottomline" Bitch my price is fucking listed. I'd rather have people throw me lowball offers instead of asking that stupid question.
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nothing pisses me off more then people asking "what is your lowest price" "what is your bottomline" Bitch my price is fucking listed. I'd rather have people throw me lowball offers instead of asking that stupid question.
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Price it a tad higher than your bottom line. You know buyer will talk you down some. Then when you get that number, you are happy and buyer is happy.
It's part of the 'game'. Human nature to want to get a few hundred dollars off a big ticket item. Just play along ... why get all pissy about it? Life is too short. If that question pisses you off, stay off CL.
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I’m with jpark on that one. You ask one question and expect my lowest price? That’s what work and negotiation tactics are for. Fucking lazy ass millennials lol
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It's part of the 'game'. Human nature to want to get a few hundred dollars off a big ticket item. Just play along ... why get all pissy about it? Life is too short. If that question pisses you off, stay off CL.
If it's just one or two people who ask, then fine. But when almost every single person emailing or calling about the ad either lowballs you or flat out asks for bottom line (my go-to response is the listed price) without even bothering to see the car... then they can fuck off.
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nothing pisses me off more then people asking "what is your lowest price" "what is your bottomline" Bitch my price is fucking listed. I'd rather have people throw me lowball offers instead of asking that stupid question.
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If it's just one or two people who ask, then fine. But when almost every single person emailing or calling about the ad either lowballs you or flat out asks for bottom line (my go-to response is the listed price) without even bothering to see the car... then they can fuck off.
Based on original post, I didn't see it as first question or an email, I imagined it to be a prospective buyer who tested the car, interested, and now in the negotiating stage for price.

If it is a first email inquiry to my posting, I don't even bother replying. Still won't get all pissy about it though. Maybe original poster should learn how to write in sentences with punctuation.

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What about on trading cars as well? Someone offers you a car +/- cash. Would you guys do anything differently?
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:04 PM   #33
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When I sold my car a few years back, I originally had it listed for $4500 ... had a few inquiries, not much interest. Re-listed at $4400 a week later, ditto. Re-listed at $4300 after another week and I was getting e-mails like crazy. Had over a dozen people arrange to come view it (of course, most of them flaked). Sold a few days later for $4k.

I couldn't believe what a difference $200 list price made.
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Based on original post, I didn't see it as first question or an email, I imagined it to be a prospective buyer who tested the car, interested, and now in the negotiating stage for price.

If it is a first email inquiry to my posting, I don't even bother replying. Still won't get all pissy about it though.
Heh, fair enough. I've sold more than my fair share of cars and other items online so I naturally went to the email route first instead of assuming it was after a test drive.
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Based on original post, I didn't see it as first question or an email, I imagined it to be a prospective buyer who tested the car, interested, and now in the negotiating stage for price.

If it is a first email inquiry to my posting, I don't even bother replying. Still won't get all pissy about it though. Maybe original poster should learn how to write in sentences with punctuation.
Seems like you’re the real pissy one here LOL.

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I've never sold a used car worth more than $10K. I'm assuming at that price range, most buyers can scrape/borrow that much.

Any tips for selling a car between $20-$30K? I'm assuming most people would need some sort of bank financing which would be more difficult.
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I picked out my new Tundra, so there's that.
But it's tough to part with my current truck. It still drives so well, and has so many great little things. Like a nicely upgraded stereo, lots of lights, exhaust, canopy, lift, wheels and tires. I could do a few things to the new truck, but it will take time to get it the way I like it.

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Why did you even come see it if you didn't like the colour.

Had a guy come out to look at my G8. I told him the three issues the car has. He jumps in with "Well I didn't know the LCD screen wasn't working".

Buddy, I told you it wasn't working. It was the first thing I mentioned after saying "These are the things wrong with the car". I've already taken that into account with my pricing, this is not a point of negotiation.

That's why I still have that car. Also, burnouts.


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What about on trading cars as well? Someone offers you a car +/- cash. Would you guys do anything differently?
Transfer papers, and cash.
That's all you would need outside of inspections and test drives.


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I picked out my new Tundra, so there's that.
But it's tough to part with my current truck. It still drives so well, and has so many great little things. Like a nicely upgraded stereo, lots of lights, exhaust, canopy, lift, wheels and tires. I could do a few things to the new truck, but it will take time to get it the way I like it.

Or I could just buy a Raptor.


I can't believe the prices they are asking for those new Raptors, when they hell did they go up to around 100k? The last gen was around 65k fully loaded, what a joke.
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I picked out my new Tundra, so there's that.
But it's tough to part with my current truck. It still drives so well, and has so many great little things. Like a nicely upgraded stereo, lots of lights, exhaust, canopy, lift, wheels and tires. I could do a few things to the new truck, but it will take time to get it the way I like it.

Or I could just buy a Raptor.
I like Toyota's dependability and resale value but damn the Tundra hasn't been changed since 2007, only added a couple of facelifts. In that time period the F150 was redesigned twice and you'll get more bang for your buck.
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I'll get on that as soon as the king of Nigeria brings me my millions
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I can't believe the prices they are asking for those new Raptors, when they hell did they go up to around 100k? The last gen was around 65k fully loaded, what a joke.
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They're nice trucks, but I just priced out a Super Crew Raptor, with not a lot of options at a price of $96,657.

the options they offer are a bit silly too. I didn't want $2500 worth of exterior graphics, nor did I want this $2500 package.
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The standard equipment is nice. But I have to admit, I'm not a fan of a TT V6 in a truck. Three of my vehicles are V8 powered, and you miss the instant torque of a big cube motor once it's gone.

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I like Toyota's dependability and resale value but damn the Tundra hasn't been changed since 2007, only added a couple of facelifts. In that time period the F150 was redesigned twice and you'll get more bang for your buck.
I agree with you that the Tundra hasn't changed much. But Toyota has long been known to constantly improve their vehicles as time goes on. So in effect, they have been making changes for a decade. While Ford has had to throw in 10 speed transmissions and LED puddle lights, Toyota didn't have to go gimmicky because their buyers aren't looking for knick knacks. Toyota buyers want reliability, and that's what keeps me coming back.

I've had Dodge and Ford products in the past. When something goes wrong, it's not a lightbulb or something simple. It's a new rear end, or new front end suspension components. In the 183,000 km that I've had my Tundra, I have never had an issue. It has never left me stranded in Princeton in -18 weather. It drives like it did when I bought it, albeit a little taller and wider. It looks great, and still has some value in the used market.

I have cars that I drive for fun. I need a truck that I can trust over anything. It helps that the TRD Pro are pretty sweet trucks, and have great reliability.
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Fuck kijiji. All I got from listing there was a bunch of calls from the knobs at AutoDex trying to get info for insurance payouts. They pretend to be searching for a replacement car for a client. It wouldn't be so bad if they kept track of who they called, but I got calls from them repeatedly for the same ad. I started just making stuff up to give them useless info to sell.

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The standard equipment is nice. But I have to admit, I'm not a fan of a TT V6 in a truck. Three of my vehicles are V8 powered, and you miss the instant torque of a big cube motor once it's gone.

You know, I always thought that too, but 480 ft/lb @ 2900rpm at the rear wheels on a Mustang Dyno completely changed my opinion:

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That torque curve (can I call it that?) is so peaky, then it drops off like a rock

I'm honestly starting to like big cubes. Add a blower to a Tundra, and you're in similar power territory, except with a starting point of 5.7L

And just look at that torque. Those are tire spinning numbers, all day long.



I guarantee that this is more fun to drive, sounds better, and will prove to be more reliable in the long run.

That said, I'm not in the market for a supercharger, and I probably wouldn't mess with the stock turbos on my daily driver. I still have nightmares of my FMIC hose blowing off at 22 psi on the Rocket Rally dyno. Scared the shit out of me, Pat, and anyone else who was in earshot.
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You know, I always thought that too, but 480 ft/lb @ 2900rpm at the rear wheels on a Mustang Dyno completely changed my opinion
That sheet looks funky, aren't torque and hp supposed to cross at 5252rpm? Why are they crossing at 3800ish?
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That said, I'm not in the market for a supercharger, and I probably wouldn't mess with the stock turbos on my daily driver. I still have nightmares of my FMIC hose blowing off at 22 psi on the Rocket Rally dyno. Scared the shit out of me, Pat, and anyone else who was in earshot.
Which vehicle was that?
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