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its interesting that they say they need to fact check it, and find the article dubious, yet one of their reasons for "limiting" the spread of the article is because it reveals the private email addresses and phone numbers of these individuals
whats amusing is by doing this I think this article is getting more attention than it would have
not sure if linking the article will get RS in trouble with google? so I wont link it, but you guys can head over to nypost and see it if youre interested
the nytimes article I linked above covers the issue pretty well, and raises some fair points regarding how the details of the post article are suspicious
A Wilmington computer repairman who reportedly gave a copy of Hunter Biden’s laptop hard drive to Rudy Giuliani’s attorney, Brian Costello, spoke cryptically Wednesday about his arrangement last month with the Republican operative.
In a winding interview with the media, John Paul Mac Isaac, owner of The Mac Shop in Wilmington, recalled how in April 2019 a man who identified himself as Hunter Biden brought three liquid-damaged laptops to his small repair shop in the Trolley Square shopping center.
Only one was left for repair, he said. No one returned to retrieve it, he said.
In the subsequent year and a half, Mac Isaac said, a “whole lot of” players were involved in the story that ended with President Donald Trump circle’s taking possession of a copy of the laptop hard drive, less than two months before the presidential election.
Mac Isaac declined to name most of them.
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Hello. I am Hunter Biden. Please do a repair to my laptop.
If you will excuse me, I have to go eat some "cheese pizza" now.
Also, Obama wasn't born in America
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She taught me right from wrong and always told me to stay positive and help others no matter how small the deed - that helping others gives us meaning to carry on. The sun is out today and it's a new day. Life is good. I just needed a slap in the face.
They'd rather believe everything bad about Trump... regardless its veracity, than even having a slight doubt about Biden.
You know what I call that? You are being MANIPULATED. Some even happily so.
This is NOT how one should be choosing which party to support. It's always about listing out everything and analyze on an objective level.
What have Trump and Biden done in term of policy making, how do you relate to them?
What has Trump done that you liked/benefited that you'd like to continue, will Biden change any of that?
What has Trump done that you disliked/harmed that you'd like to stop, will Biden change any of that?
What will Trump do if he gets re-elected and how your life would change given the policies?
What will Biden do if gets elected and how your life would change given the policies?
Then you weight out the pros/cons of everything to make a decision. This is critical thinking.
Why is it that the black race issue is ALWAYS raised before election? Because the black community is EASILY MANIPULATED given how sensitive they are to the topic. So much so that they can disregard everything else.
Biden is ONLY campaigning on "I'm not Trump". That's not enough for me as a politician. What difficult decision can he make on social/political/diplomatical front? So far I've seen NOTHING from Biden. He is always playing the neutral card because it's the easiest way not to raise any polarizing reaction.
It's often too easy to PICK what a person has done WRONG. But the difficult part is to think about what a person has done right and how that would carry out.
I think Trump's decision on Covid is stupid... but it doesn't neglect the fact that he is doing what's needed for China to come to a level playing field. And it's not just for USA either. Now the WHOLE WORLD is realizing that the trend of shifting every production to China (read jobs) is NOT feasible in the long term.
Our PM continue to refuse any action that might upset China when thousands of jobs are lost in Canada every year due to manufacturing shifting to China. JT doesn't care about average folks losing their jobs to Chinese... he only cares about how big corporations can benefit by selling resources to China. And what do we Canadian get in return? Having to spend billions of dollars on cleanups and many young people can only find jobs flipping burgers.
When picking a representative, it's not about who did less wrong... it's about who can do more rights.
A Republican candidate for the North Dakota House of Representatives died from COVID-19 on Monday, Oct. 5, a month out from Election Day and with no way to replace his name on the November ballot.
He was a trump supporter, so why didn't trump hook him up with the good drugs.
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Our PM continue to refuse any action that might upset China when thousands of jobs are lost in Canada every year due to manufacturing shifting to China. JT doesn't care about average folks losing their jobs to Chinese... he only cares about how big corporations can benefit by selling resources to China. And what do we Canadian get in return? Having to spend billions of dollars on cleanups and many young people can only find jobs flipping burgers.
You want to work in a manufacturing job? We have a number of industries in Canada that have a shortage of workers.
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When picking a representative, it's not about who did less wrong... it's about who can do more rights.
This is a dumb take. You said it yourself:
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Then you weight out the pros/cons of everything to make a decision. This is critical thinking.
How is looking at only who can do more right, but not considering who did less wrong, considered critical thinking?
Sure you can say Trump has done more 'things' in his term, some of which may be 'right' to a certain group of the American population. But the magnitude of the wrongs that took place in the wake of his actions is tremendous. How can you overlook that?
So many of these decisions there is often not even a 'right' answer, and if there is, it's only benefiting a small subset of the population. It may be naiive, but my belief of a leader is to make these difficult decisions that has the most stable outcome for the good of the population. This often means not choosing a clear 'right' answer.
Whereas Trump's approach is to do what is 'right' to the group that will help him win, regardless of how much it fucks over the rest of the population.
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Hehe is not entirely wrong thou, he is literally saying support which ever politician give YOU the most gain.
He has express many time why exactly he is a such a feverish supporter of Trump.
The stock market, the real estate business. I thought it’s very obvious and quite stereotypical why Hehe is such an avid supporter.
Trump’s policies does benefit a specific group of people. You just have to be part of that group to understand why they are singing his praise....
It’s interested also how Hehe is also so anti China. Is Hehe from Taiwan? Is Hehe’s family personally persecuted? Maybe he has business that is in direct competition with China? Maybe he can fill us in here.
His statement of “don’t look at what they did wrong, look at what they did right” can completely be apply to CCP and it’s subject.
On another parallel universe. I can see Hehe being born on a different side of history. He could very well be spinning the same exact narrative he has for trump for the CCP becuase guess what CCP’s policies benefits him.
It’s not about who did less wrong. It’s about who does more right for YOUR wallet.
Hehe is not wrong thou, he is literally saying support which ever politician give YOU the most gain.
He has express many time why exactly he is a such a feverish supporter of Trump.
The stock market, the real estate business. I thought it’s very obvious and quite stereotypical why Hehe is such an avid supporter.
Trump’s policies does benefit a specific group of people. You just have to be part of that group to understand why they are singing his praise....
That is a valid perspective, but that is essentially the classic example of basic personal politics and philosophies, which is not universal the level in which you care about 'Me' vs 'We'.
For me the cognitive dissonance comes from the fact that a large part of Trump's base that he panders to in his campaign (low-income, manual labourers, etc), is the same group that is significantly hurt by many of his decisions.
There is no personal benefit for them, at least in terms of what I see as valuable. Maybe they do value nationalism and white supremacy over healthcare and their individual livelihoods; it wouldn't be wrong, it's just their value system.
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That is a valid perspective, but that is essentially the classic example of basic personal politics and philosophies, which is not universal the level in which you care about 'Me' vs 'We'.
For me the cognitive dissonance comes from the fact that a large part of Trump's base that he panders to in his campaign (low-income, manual labourers, etc), is the same group that is significantly hurt by many of his decisions.
There is no personal benefit for them, at least in terms of what I see as valuable. Maybe they do value nationalism and white supremacy over healthcare and their individual livelihoods; it wouldn't be wrong, it's just their value system.
For these kind of people as long as someone is "sticking it to the Libs" then they're deserving of their vote. The US has completely and utterly split itself culturally down an imaginary middle and this is just the result of decades of this.
I've stated this enough times here that Hehe is a dabbling Libertarian and a CINO (Conservative in-name-only). A classic Conservative would reject wholeheartedly many of Trump's policies. He really only has considers viewpoints and provides compassion to those who have the same life experiences that he does.
So is this Hunter situation going to slow-drag Biden down like the email scandal for Hilary? If everything that's been alleged is true, it is pretty damaging to Biden, at least in the general public's eye. His personal family cashing in millions through Biden's vice-presidency? How's that any different from Trump's family and friends cashing in millions through Trump? Once Biden is 'perceived' to be at the same low level as Trump, he has nothing to stand on. The strategy of "I am not Trump" is being weakened. If both candidates seem incompetent and corrupt, people might as well vote for the party they like. I am interested to see how Biden campaign responds. Will they repeat the same mistake as Hilary's dealing with the email scandal?
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Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Corruption: The Impact on U.S. Government Policy and Related Concerns
U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
U.S. Senate Committee on Finance Majority Staff Report
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In late 2013 and into 2014, mass protests erupted in Kyiv, Ukraine, demanding integration into western economies and an end to systemic corruption that had plagued the country. At least 82 people were killed during the protests, which culminated on Feb. 21 when Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych abdicated by fleeing the country. Less than two months later, over the span of only 28 days, significant events involving the Bidens unfolded.
On April 16, 2014, Vice President Biden met with his son’s business partner, Devon Archer, at the White House. Five days later, Vice President Biden visited Ukraine, and he soon after was described in the press as the “public face of the administration’s handling of Ukraine.” The day after his visit, on April 22, Archer joined the board of Burisma. Six days later, on April 28, British officials seized $23 million from the London bank accounts of Burisma’s owner, Mykola Zlochevsky. Fourteen days later, on May 12, Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma, and over the course of the next several years, Hunter Biden and Devon Archer were paid millions of dollars from a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch for their participation on the board.
The 2014 protests in Kyiv came to be known as the Revolution of Dignity — a revolution against corruption in Ukraine. Following that revolution, Ukrainian political figures were desperate for U.S. support. Zlochevsky would have made sure relevant Ukrainian officials were well aware of Hunter’s appointment to Burisma’s board as leverage. Hunter Biden’s position on the board created an immediate potential conflict of interest that would prove to be problematic for both U.S. and Ukrainian officials and would affect the implementation of Ukraine policy.
The Chairmen’s investigation into potential conflicts of interest began in August 2019, with Chairman Grassley’s letter to the Department of Treasury regarding potential conflicts of interest with respect to Obama administration policy relating to the Henniges transaction. During the Obama administration, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) approved a transaction that gave control over Henniges, an american maker of antivibration technologies with military applications, to a Chinese government-owned aviation company and a China-based investment firm with established ties to the Chinese government.
One of the companies involved in the Henniges transaction was a billion-dollar private investment fund called Bohai Harvest RST (BHR). BHR was formed in November 2013 by a merger between the Chinese-government-linked firm Bohai Capital and a company named Rosemont Seneca Partners. Rosemont Seneca was formed in 2009 by Hunter Biden, the son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, by Chris Heinz, the stepson of former Secretary of State John Kerry, and others.
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I doubt the Biden Ukraine scandal will affect him much, bcuz the story is somewhat stifled, which has caused supporters of Biden to say "has to be fake or else FB/Twitter wouldn't block it" but we'll see how things roll out this next week
I know the anti-china Chinese news are pro trump, and they're running the Biden story a lot, but they don't make up a big proportion of us voters
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Billionaires: We've never been richer! Trump is great!
Everyone else: I'm broke and homeless now
Bootlickers: I'm broke and homeless now. Trump is great!
Ehh he did add 7million jobs pre-covid
And they've been adding millions of jobs "post" covid fallout
Employment —Total nonfarm employment grew by nearly 6.7 million since the president took office, according to the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
That continued an unbroken chain of monthly gains in total employment that started in October 2010. The economy has now added jobs every month for more than nine years, including the first two years and 11 months of the Trump administration.
Sonick is a genius. I won't go into detail what's so great about his post. But it's damn good!
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I'm not saying I know, genuinely asking the question.
How many of those jobs are truly gainful employment that can afford people the increase in the cost of living and real estate prices?
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
But comparing these the odds against the past odds leading up to election in 2016, it seems like Trump has better chance this time?
PredictIt, an online trading platform jointly run by Victoria University in Wellington, New Zealand, and Washington, D.C.-based political consulting firm Aristotle International Inc:
They really underestimated how much people hated Clinton, and at the same time didn't know much about how bad Trump could be.
I feel like now, people don't hate Biden, so much as they think he won't be a total disaster. And they now know Trump is a total disaster
Still, there's enough dumb people and boot lickers out there in these swing states (we even have some here), so I wouldn't be 100% confident in betting.
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