Trump thread 2.0

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

^Dude give it up, what do these videos prove?

For every video you post of an "antifa" rally with violence, one can post a video of the Proud Boy, Boogaloos, you name it doing the same thing.

What does that prove exactly? No one agrees there should be violence in the streets, period. Don't try to act like such instances aren't occurring at either rallies, what point are you trying to portray.

You only want to see your side of things and gets disturbed when any less favorable side is shown.

It's all about getting the full picture. BLM, Antifa, and left wings in general isn't as saint as they claim to be.

Not all their actions are justified because of the movement/agenda they are trying to push.

And when considering things... ANYTHING... be it political or whatever... one needs to look at the whole picture. It's understandable that one would try to justify or explain certain actions. But when one blindly disregard anything that's against your POV, that's not being supportive. That's being BLINDED and BRAINWASHED.

[Manic!]

Here is a list of all the court cases against the far right.

https://first-vigil.com/

The data scientist behind it has had to move to germany.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mily-gorcenski


List of upcoming cases.

Spoiler!

This Week
State of Oregon v Mackenzie William Lewis (Multnomah County (OR) Court — 19CR53040)
Awaiting Trial
23-October-2020 (Call)
Mackenzie Lewis was indicted on Riot charges after he and his group allegedly instigated violence at the Cider Riot incident on May Day 2019 in Portland, OR.
Mackenzie William Lewis
a.k.a.
Mackenzie Lewis
Suspected affiliations:
Patriot Prayer
Riot
166.015 (Oregon State Code) Indicted Up to 5 years
State of Oregon v Ian Alexander Kramer (Multnomah County (OR) Court — 19CR50007)
Awaiting Trial
23-October-2020 (Call)
Ian Kramer was arrested after he was allegedly captured on video hitting a woman with a baton at the Cider Riot incident on May Day 2019 in Portland.
Ian Alexander Kramer
a.k.a.
Ian Kramer
Suspected affiliations:
Patriot Prayer
Assault in the second degree
163.175 (Oregon State Code) Indicted Up to 10 years
Unlawful use of a weapon (2 counts)
166.220 (Oregon State Code) Indicted Up to 5 years
Attempt to commit a class B felony
161.405(2)(c) (Oregon State Code) Indicted Up to 5 years
Use of ESG/tear gas/mace
163.212 (Oregon State Code) Indicted Up to 1 year
Disorderly conduct in the second degree
166.025 (Oregon State Code) Indicted Up to 6 months
State of Oregon v Ian Alexander Kramer (Multnomah County (OR) Court — 19CR54815)
Awaiting Trial
23-October-2020 (Call)
Ian Kramer was arrested after he was allegedly captured on video hitting a woman with a baton at the Cider Riot incident on May Day 2019 in Portland.
Ian Alexander Kramer
a.k.a.
Ian Kramer
Suspected affiliations:
Patriot Prayer
Riot
166.015 (Oregon State Code) Indicted Up to 5 years
State of Oregon v Joseph Owan Gibson (Multnomah County (OR) Court — 19CR53042)
Open
23-October-2020 (Call)
Joey Gibson is a former US Senate candidate and the leader of the group Patriot Prayer. He was indicted on Riot charges after he and his group allegedly instigated violence at the Cider Riot incident on May Day 2019 in Portland, OR.
Joseph Owan Gibson
a.k.a.
Joey Gibson
Suspected affiliations:
Patriot Prayer
Riot
166.015 (Oregon State Code) Indicted Up to 5 years
State of Oregon v Russell Earl Schultz III (Multnomah County (OR) Court — 19CR53035)
Awaiting Appearance
23-October-2020 (Call)
Russell Schultz was indicted on Riot charges after he and his group allegedly instigated violence at the Cider Riot incident on May Day 2019 in Portland, OR.
Russell Earl Schultz III
a.k.a.
Russell Schultz
Suspected affiliations:
Patriot Prayer
Riot
166.015 (Oregon State Code) Indicted Up to 5 years
USA v Holzer, Richard (US District Court (Delaware) — 1:19-cr-00488-RM)
Awaiting Trial
23-October-2020 (Trial Preparation Conference)
Richard Holzer was arrested after an undercover FBI agent made contact with him over Facebook and allegedly helped him access explosives which were, unbeknownst to him, fake. Holzer allegedly had targeted a Colorado synagogue and planned to blow it up, with or without people inside it.
Richard Holzer
Suspected affiliations:
KKK
Attempt to obstruct persons in the enjoyment of their free exercise of religious beliefs, through force and the attempted use of explosives and fire
18 U.S.C. § 247(a)(2) and (d)(3) (United States Code) Indicted Up to 20 years
Attempt to damage a building used in interstate commerce through the use of fire or destructive device
18 U.S.C. § 844(i) (United States Code) Indicted 5 years to 20 years
Use of fire and explosive to commit a felony which may be prosecuted by a court of the United States
18 U.S.C. § 844(h)(1) (United States Code) Indicted Minimum 10 years
Next Week
USA v Baun, Michael (US District Court (Middle FL) — 8:18-cr-00488-WFJ-CPT)
Awaiting Sentencing
30-October-2020 (Sentencing)
Michael Baun is one of 39 alleged Aryan Brotherhood members indicted in Operation Blackjack, a three-year FBI sting operation to break up a white supremacist gang.
Michael Baun
Suspected affiliations:
United Aryan Brotherhood
Unforgiven
Possessing a firearm as a convicted felon
18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1) and 924(a)(2) (United States Code) Indicted (Plea Pending) Up to 10 years
Next Month
State of Indiana v Dustin E Passarelli (Marion (IN) Superior Court — 49G04-1902-MR-006769)
Awaiting Trial
30-November-2020 (Jury Trial)
Passarelli is accused of chasing down a Muslim man and shooting him twice in the back, killing him.
Dustin E Passarelli
a.k.a.
Dustin Passarelli
Murder
35-42-1-1(1) (Indiana Code) Indicted 45 years to Death
USA v Burkhow, Raven Damien Meader (US District Court (Northern IA) — 1:19-cr-00059-CJW-MAR)
Awaiting Sentencing
06-November-2020 (Sentencing)
Raven Burkhow is alleged to have sold drugs and guns to a confidential source. In social media postings, he claims to be a member of the Proud Boys. His plea to several counts of weapons charges was accepted in early 2020.
Raven Damien Meader Burkhow
a.k.a.
Raven Burkhow
Suspected affiliations:
Proud Boys
Conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance
21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1), (b)(1)(B), and 846 (United States Code) Convicted (Plea) 5 years to 40 years
Distribution of a controlled substance (5 counts)
21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1) and (b)(1)(C) (United States Code) Dismissed (Plea) Up to 20 years
Possession with intent to distribute a controlled substance
21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1) and (b)(1)(B) (United States Code) Dismissed (Plea) 5 years to 40 years
Use and possession of a firearm during and in furtherance of a drug trafficking crime (2 counts)
18 U.S.C. § 924(c) (United States Code) Convicted (Plea) Minimum 5 years
Possession of firearms in furtherance of a drug trafficking crime
18 U.S.C. § 924(c) (United States Code) Convicted (Plea) Minimum 5 years
Transfer of machine gun
18 U.S.C. § 922(o) (United States Code) Dismissed (Plea) Up to 10 years
Possession of machine guns
18 U.S.C. § 924(c) (United States Code) Convicted (Plea) Up to 10 years
Transfer of firearm in violation of national firearms act (2 counts)
26 U.S.C. § 5861(e) (United States Code) Dismissed (Plea) Up to 10 years
Possession of national firearms act firearms not registered to possessor
26 U.S.C. § 5861(d) (United States Code) Convicted (Plea) Up to 10 years
Possession of national firearms act firearms not registered to possessor (14 counts)
26 U.S.C. § 5861(d) (United States Code) Dismissed (Plea) Up to 10 years
Possession of national firearms act firearms not identified by serial number (13 counts)
26 U.S.C. § 5861(i) (United States Code) Dismissed (Plea) Up to 10 years
USA v Denton, John Cameron (US District Court (Eastern VA) — 1:20-cr-154)
Awaiting Sentencing
17-November-2020 (Sentencing)
Denton was a leader of Atomwaffen Division who was outed by ProPublica in 2017. In this case, he is alleged to have participated in a massive nationwide swatting conspiracy, targets of which included one of the journalists who outed him.
John Cameron Denton
a.k.a.
Rape
Death
Tormentor
Suspected affiliations:
A
t
o
m
w
a
f
f
e
false
D
i
v
i
s
i
o
false
Conspiracy to communicate a threat in interstate commerce
18 U.S.C. § 371 (United States Code) Convicted (Plea) Up to 5 years

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[Xu.Vi]

Originally Posted by Hehe

You only want to see your side of things and gets disturbed when any less favorable side is shown.

It's all about getting the full picture. BLM, Antifa, and left wings in general isn't as saint as they claim to be.

Not all their actions are justified because of the movement/agenda they are trying to push.

And when considering things... ANYTHING... be it political or whatever... one needs to look at the whole picture. It's understandable that one would try to justify or explain certain actions. But when one blindly disregard anything that's against your POV, that's not being supportive. That's being BLINDED and BRAINWASHED.

isn't that you tho?

[JD¹³]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

I agree that social media is a new thing that maybe deserves different consideration than a typical "bulletin board" where people can share their opinions on things.

They've become the defacto "town square" for not just America, but the entire world (well, where it's not banned by other govts at least). It's where literally everyone with access has a voice, and maybe those rights need to be protected in a different way than "just a private spot where what we say goes". It's really weird.

Exactly this. In principal I support the White House's initiative to increase transparency and reduce censorship on these platforms. How it'll all play out remains to be seen.

Originally Posted by El Bastardo

Their argument will be that Twitter, Gab, and other online bulletin boards are microblogging sites. The poster's content can be protected as expressing their opinion instead of reporting facts. There is no responsibility on the poster to be balanced, accurate, or even truthful.

What about freedom of the press? (rhetorical)

[SkinnyPupp]

Twitter

[GLOW]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...38641140338689

somewhere biden be like:

Spoiler!

[SkinnyPupp]

One thing is for sure, Biden's team is all time great on twitter

Twitter

Twitter

Trump just lobbing softballs and he's hitting them out of the park

[68style]

It’s actually super hard to hit lobbed balls out of the park, the faster the pitch comes in the more energy there is to transfer and hit it out of the park... so basically Trump is firing pitches right down the middle of the plate

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by 68style

It’s actually super hard to hit lobbed balls out of the park, the faster the pitch comes in the more energy there is to transfer and hit it out of the park... so basically Trump is firing pitches right down the middle of the plate

I guess I picked the wrong sport to base an analogy on

[Manic!]

October 1993

[Bouncing Bettys]

Progressives voting for Biden: We'll push the party left once he wins.

Biden:

Twitter

[SkinnyPupp]

lol @ the narrative that Biden pushing the party left comes from the "progressives"

Also: We know Biden is not great. You're not going to "rock the boat" here by trashing Biden

[StylinRed]

Trump says he could strong arm corporations like Exxon into donating to his campaign to out raise Biden (painted a scenario where they would want permits that he could give them) but he won't do that.... lol wow

So Exxon had to clarify

Twitter

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54614792

[welfare]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...38641140338689

The commission has also pivoted away from any discussion on foreign policy. How peculiar.
Looks like a receipt for Hunter Biden's laptop repairs has surfaced.
I wonder if it was Russians who also planted the subpoena for the shop owner after the laptop was seized last year.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...-fbi-paperwork

[68style]

Remember how terrible 2Fast2Furious was when it came out? Like... took all of the original, (which actually isn’t very good either but has just aged well based on charm more than anything) and tried to amp it up and rehash it with an even worse and totally implausible plot than before hoping for the same result... but ultimately failing?

The whole Biden email thing is 2Fast2Furious.

[whitev70r]

It is a very sad state when a major US election is really to vote for the lesser of 2 evils ... and not for a candidate.

[westopher]

I mean, it’s certainly not the first time.

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by welfare

The commission has also pivoted away from any discussion on foreign policy. How peculiar.
Looks like a receipt for Hunter Biden's laptop repairs has surfaced.
I wonder if it was Russians who also planted the subpoena for the shop owner after the laptop was seized last year.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...-fbi-paperwork

I thought it was 3 laptops?

Also no one voting for biden cares just like trump supporters don't care about the many trump scandals.

[welfare]

Originally Posted by 68style

Remember how terrible 2Fast2Furious was when it came out? Like... took all of the original, (which actually isn’t very good either but has just aged well based on charm more than anything) and tried to amp it up and rehash it with an even worse and totally implausible plot than before hoping for the same result... but ultimately failing?

The whole Biden email thing is 2Fast2Furious.

As far as scandals go, no, it's not very massive.
What makes it worse though is that the media are making up stories about it's validity and/or flat out ignoring it. Just like they did with Tara Reade's rape allegations.

Politicians lie. It's practically in the job description so I'm inclined to accept that. But it used to be the journalists job to keep that in check.
Add to that the censorship from big tech. These are things countries like China do. They used to be universally unacceptable.

[68style]

You think Trump’s being treated unfairly? He’s gotten away with who knows how many scams and ripoffs and straight up illegal activity lol...

Even just simple things (ie: knowingly having a disease and then coming into contact and infecting others) is an arrestable offense of which he’s guilty of that any of us would be prosecuted for. The guy is made of fuckin Teflon.

But wawawa what about the laptop hoax... and Tara Reade was covered I read many articles about her and her questionable history for accusations which came off totally baseless... did Biden pay her money like Trump has or address all the women he’s molested/taken advantage of in his life geez you want to go down THAT rabbit hole with a guy like Trump in your corner???

[inv4zn]

Originally Posted by Hehe

You only want to see your side of things and gets disturbed when any less favorable side is shown.

It's all about getting the full picture. BLM, Antifa, and left wings in general isn't as saint as they claim to be.

Not all their actions are justified because of the movement/agenda they are trying to push.

And when considering things... ANYTHING... be it political or whatever... one needs to look at the whole picture. It's understandable that one would try to justify or explain certain actions. But when one blindly disregard anything that's against your POV, that's not being supportive. That's being BLINDED and BRAINWASHED.

I can't think of any time more appropriate for this than right now.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

lol @ the narrative that Biden pushing the party left comes from the "progressives"

Also: We know Biden is not great. You're not going to "rock the boat" here by trashing Biden

Trumps obvious political tactic to paint Biden as a commie in order to steer undecided moderates is indeed a narrative. Yet Progressives doing the same thing over and over every election - voting for an establishment candidate who gives them nothing and hoping for real change, is happening yet again.

Twitter

[welfare]

So about that stimulus bill that Trump didn't want to pass...

https://youtu.be/QLcyFuOzt_M

[unit]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys

Trumps obvious political tactic to paint Biden as a commie in order to steer undecided moderates is indeed a narrative. Yet Progressives doing the same thing over and over every election - voting for an establishment candidate who gives them nothing and hoping for real change, is happening yet again.

https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/statu...68460004577280

the only reason trump hasn't deported more is because he's far less competent.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys

Trumps obvious political tactic to paint Biden as a commie in order to steer undecided moderates is indeed a narrative. Yet Progressives doing the same thing over and over every election - voting for an establishment candidate who gives them nothing and hoping for real change, is happening yet again.

https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/statu...68460004577280

Yup, it really truly sucks

America has such a huge advantage over so many countries with its democracy. But it's being squandered.

As for the tweet... Fewer deportations? But I don't recall many stories like these coming out of ICE back then

‘Like an Experimental Concentration Camp’: Whistleblower Complaint Alleges Mass Hysterectomies at ICE Detention Center

Report finds ICE detention center is using a disinfectant over 50 times a day that causes bleeding and pain

ICE Guards “Systematically” Sexually Assault Detainees in an El Paso Detention Center, Lawyers Say

“A SILENT PANDEMIC”: NURSE AT ICE FACILITY BLOWS THE WHISTLE ON CORONAVIRUS DANGERS