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Old 10-20-2020, 04:48 PM   #2826
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Remember when Rudy Giuliani was running for the leadership of the republican party and his son would not come to any of his events because he was to busy golfing. Well his daughter has now spoken.

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Came across this animated graph the other day.
It's quite illuminating when you watch it through to the end.

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Came across this animated graph the other day.
It's quite illuminating when you watch it through to the end.

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Came across this animated graph the other day.
It's quite illuminating when you watch it through to the end.
What’s so “illuminating” about it?
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What’s so “illuminating” about it?
See my post! I am freaking out over here and you should be too!
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You can literally see the moment Silicon Valley realized they could get tax break bringing people over form India hahaha

But zomg 28 million people in the USA weren’t born there in 2019?? That’s it? A full 8.5% of the entire USA population hahaha you’re worried about 8.5%???

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What’s so “illuminating” about it?
I think it lends credence to the reasons why both democrats and republicans alike, up until quite recently, saw this as a universal issue.
I'm curious to know how comfortable you'd be with 50-100,000 gun loving Yankees, per month, for decades, entering and living in Canada illegally.

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See my post! I am freaking out over here and you should be too!
And you? Are you ecstatic over the influx of mainlanders who've migrated to HK? Those numbers will most certainly be increasing drastically as China asserts it's dominance.
You're in favor of that though right? You're not some kind of bigot are you?

Rapid demographic changes create conflict. You can find examples in countries all over the world throughout history.
You will find very few, if any, to support otherwise.
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Old 10-20-2020, 08:33 PM   #2834
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I think it lends credence to the reasons why both democrats and republicans alike, up until quite recently, saw this as a universal issue.
I'm curious to know how comfortable you'd be with 50-100,000 gun loving Yankees, per month, for decades, entering and living in Canada illegally.
You've seen what Canada's immigration and ethnic diversity looks like, right? Have you walked down the street in any major city in Canada? You know that 22% of Canadas population are immigrants, and US are 14%?
So yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down here, but no, it doesn't seem to have created an issue for me, or Canada for that matter.
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With fertility rates on a downward trend, it's already been discussed that over the next half century countries will be racing and fighting for immigrants, that's just the way it's going to be as we face the future.

I understand the fear that sudden massive cultural/political shifts may come with that, but the only thing countries can do, especially if they want to survive their population decline, is far better migrant integration plans to teach and make them feel more Canadian/etc

Regardless though, times are drastically changing for the next couple generations, start googling global fertility rates and immigration, and fall down the rabbit hole
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You've seen what Canada's immigration and ethnic diversity looks like, right? Have you walked down the street in any major city in Canada? You know that 22% of Canadas population are immigrants, and US are 14%?
So yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down here, but no, it doesn't seem to have created an issue for me, or Canada for that matter.
Canada's immigration policies are very different from the U.S.
Our government is far more selective of who immigrates to this country.

But you didn't answer the question.
How comfortable would you be with 50-100,000 Americans, per month, for decades, entering and staying in our country illegally?
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I think it lends credence to the reasons why both democrats and republicans alike, up until quite recently, saw this as a universal issue.
I'm curious to know how comfortable you'd be with 50-100,000 gun loving Yankees, per month, for decades, entering and living in Canada illegally.



And you? Are you ecstatic over the influx of mainlanders who've migrated to HK? Those numbers will most certainly be increasing drastically as China asserts it's dominance.
You're in favor of that though right? You're not some kind of bigot are you?

Rapid demographic changes create conflict. You can find examples in countries all over the world throughout history.
You will find very few, if any, to support otherwise.
Yes, I absolutely hate people based on where they were born, and the colour of their skin. You know me too well!
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Yes, I absolutely hate people based on where they were born, and the colour of their skin. You know me too well!
Your response is as childish as it is self righteous.
Try answering again. Like an adult this time.
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With fertility rates on a downward trend, it's already been discussed that over the next half century countries will be racing and fighting for immigrants, that's just the way it's going to be as we face the future.

I understand the fear that sudden massive cultural/political shifts may come with that, but the only thing countries can do, especially if they want to survive their population decline, is far better migrant integration plans to teach and make them feel more Canadian/etc

Regardless though, times are drastically changing for the next couple generations, start googling global fertility rates and immigration, and fall down the rabbit hole
And what of automation? It's estimated that between 8-10% of the global workforce will be obsolete within just the next ten years.
These two concepts are contradictory.
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Side note I didn't know the Biden team has ended up admitting Joe met Burisma execs "unofficially"

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Your response is as childish as it is self righteous.
Try answering again. Like an adult this time.
I'm an immigrant myself, why would I be mad at other immigrants? Why would I hate mainlanders more than anyone else? You tell ME why you think I should.
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And what of automation? It's estimated that between 8-10% of the global workforce will be obsolete within just the next ten years.
These two concepts are contradictory.
Things can exist in tandem, automation will play a part in declining populations, and then some most likely, but countries need ppl to tax
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isn't that you tho?
Bahaha... young padawan... keep trying.

I used to spend much of my free time reading all sort of crap about the same topic that I'm interested. With me selling my business late last year, Covid early this year... my free time grew exponentially.

I spend my morning reading news from all outlets in 3 different languages (for international perspective) in both left and right leaning that covers Asia, Europe and America. Then I'm averaging about 2-3books (I cheat a bit with some audiobooks mixed in there, but you get the idea) per week... be it political, philosophical, biography. I cover them all.

If there's a bigger nerd out there able to cover more perspectives in the same depth I'm doing, I'd be interested to learn his/her routine.

Let me guess? You are working in a relatively stable job that had limited effect from Covid, or not working exactly, but yet there isn't much further to develop from here on career-wise and you are near the end of the payscale ladder. Or there's simply not much opportunity going on for you. You see other getting richer or those "opportunities" and you choose to blame the politician, the US president, the fucked up world for it.

You spend a portion of your free time outside work/family reading fees from IG/FB/Twitter or craps your F&F share over IM groups.

And with that you think you are up to date on everything and objective AF.

Correct?

I'd tell you why exactly I converted from left to right and why we are different.

I started my startup about 6yrs ago, with my first newborn roughly the same time.

On the family side, I needed to make sure that whatever screwup I make, I'd still be able to provide the basics (my wife had much of that covered when I started, but still needed to put in my share for some decent living standard) for them.

On the business side, I needed to make sure that I didn't screwup so I'd be able to pay all my employees and contractors at the end of every month so they can provide what their family needed.

For the first 2-3yrs of the startup... pulling a 100hr workweek was the norm. Even on family holidays, I was on standby 100% of the time with internet connection and laptop by my side.

I didn't have another choice. If I fail... I didn't only fail in my own life. I screw up the lives of my families, my employees, and their families. I remember counting with my business partner that easily 100 mouths depended on us to eat. We said it as a joke to remind us to not take decisions lightly.

But do you have any fucking idea what that felt like when a simple decision of yours could make a huge impact on hundreds of people's life.

So I learned from that experience? I learned how to take some fucking responsibility about shits I say, and decisions I make.

I no longer bitch much about anything... it doesn't bother me that people has a different opinion than mine, what bothers me is that they don't THINK at the same depth as I do and say the shit they say.

The lefties say the riches have the responsibility to pay their share for the society. I agree... but ONLY to those who can't make on their own. Those with disabilities (mental or physical) need them. Those who don't have disabilities... they don't NEED subsidies. What they need are opportunities and ways for opportunities to happen. That means education, shelter, food bank, career programs, incentives for companies to hire them... etc. But not a direct handout.

Warren Buffett said the best. He said he's going to give enough for his children to do anything, not enough to do nothing. What lefties are proposing with handouts are simply that... enough to do nothing for those who don't have anything and all they ask is to satisfy basic needs.

Why should I fund those programs when I'm pulling 100hrs workweeks and they do nothing? It hurts me when I see panhandlers on the street with perfect physics and mental... and only doing that because they "chose to".

That's not freedom. That's fucking lack of personal responsibility. If you are responsible to at least yourself, you can satisfy basic needs while being a hobo... being a hobo is the freedom, satisfying basic needs is the responsibility. And when one needs to ask others to be responsible for their responsibility so they can have their freedom... that's fucked up.

But when I see a person performing on the street just hoping for some tips... I always put in what I can. That's being responsible... however little it is.

And when reading about social programs... be it here, South America, Europes, the Scandinavians... etc, I came to the conclusion that the ONLY way for socialism to work is when people are RESPONSIBLE for themselves. The Scandinavians have one of the most comprehensive social program there is, but very few actually abuse it because the majority of their population are responsible for themselves.

Anywhere else... it simply didn't work. For every $1 that we are able to contribute, there are greed who ask for MORE than $1. And what's the solution? If the need is for $2, then you figure a way to tax that $2. Then one day... you'd find no person to tax from. Venezuela was one of the richest countries in the 90s to one of the worst in less than 30yrs... this is how quick everything can deteriorate.

So... the reason I went from left to right was because I want people to be responsible. I want our gov't to be responsible. I want the societal value is to BE RESPONSIBLE... and only THEN... we can start looking at going left again. Because by then... going left would be the responsible thing to do.
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lesley stahl was interviewing trump for 60 minutes. trump gets upset and leaves the interview like a crybaby.

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^^^ he tweeted that he ended it bcuz of her biased interviewing, but he also complains about her lack of a mask which is odd for him
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There seems to be a lot on your plate for you during this time, and I can respect that. Politics and jokes aside, I really feel for you and have learned lots about the online "you" and about your upbringings...thank you! The political choices you've made not only affect yourself but more importantly will hopefully pave a road for your family for generations to come. With that said...all this bickering and slander is kinda silly (but really, what would revscene offtopic be without this?).....because with you, or I, or anyone in here, we have a stance in the best interests of our own...which unfortunately won't align with everyone. After all, our lived experiences shape the way we interpret life...and that's unique -- not one person can tell us otherwise. Wishing you lots of love in looking after everything

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^^^ he tweeted that he ended it bcuz of her biased interviewing, but he also complains about her lack of a mask which is odd for him
Obama went on fox news.
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Obama went on fox news.
lol yep

Im js he didn't stop the interview cuz of her lack of a mask, that's what I thought he did at first

I'm not sure if it's the media, or if it's trump, or a bit of both? But he seems to be losing his grip
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I'm an immigrant myself, why would I be mad at other immigrants? Why would I hate mainlanders more than anyone else? You tell ME why you think I should.
I'm not saying you should. But I certainly wouldn't assume you were some sort of racist for voicing your concern over a rapid demographic and cultural shift, be it legally or illegally, from the place you'd grown fond of and called home over the years.
If you're excited for that shift, I'm happy for you. There's nothing more to be said.
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I'm not saying you should. But I certainly wouldn't assume you were some sort of racist for voicing your concern over a rapid demographic and cultural shift, be it legally or illegally, from the place you'd grown fond of and called home over the years.
If you're excited for that shift, I'm happy for you. There's nothing more to be said.
I'm neither concerned nor happy about it. I am not a racist.
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