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Good campaigning by Trump there. 800 more people voted than in 2016, and they were all for him, and some people flipped
Also good time to point out that "Latino" isn't some monolithic culture... Some are conservative, some are not. Some are crazy Trumptards, some are not. Some work in industries, like natural gas, and oil fields, where they will vote for the person think will protect that industry. There are trends, and overall they tend to vote Democratic outside Florida.
Sure, but still a drastic shift from the trend. And quite a shift from the narrative.
Biden did poorly among minority voters. You could say his reputation may be the cause, but then what explains trump (The racist/misogynist) increasing popularity among those same demographics? https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...lls-2016-2020/
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He also plans to reenter the TPP. Couple that with his increasing the corporate tax rate that Trump lowered, and the trajectory to a pre-Trump dive in manufacturing will carry on right where he left off.
Hollowing out the middle class.
Undo it all. Because Drumpf
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Republicans in power need to step up now and tell Trump to shut the fuck up and take it like a man. Do they really want to be associated with this sinking ship where there's no way he can win but you try and change the outcome anyways?
If they were sitting idly by for the last 4 years they can burn too. But while Trump lost, the ship isn't really sinking that badly for the Republicans given that 70.5M people were perfectly happy to have Trump continue to "lead" the country.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
I respect the Rep who voted Biden. They could have abstained. You know how hard it is for a lifelong Rep to actually vote Dem ??!! People associated with the Lincoln Project, Cindy McCain, and others. These are the sensible Rep who are able to see beyond the partisanship.
If they were sitting idly by for the last 4 years they can burn too. But while Trump lost, the ship isn't really sinking that badly for the Republicans given that 70.5M people were perfectly happy to have Trump continue to "lead" the country.
That 70.5 million that got them second place. Any other election that's probably enough to win, but Trump brought out the masses to vote against him. Republicans need to find the most boring, level headed dude they can find for 2024 because Democrats don't show up when things are boring.
Sure, but still a drastic shift from the trend. And quite a shift from the narrative.
Biden did poorly among minority voters. You could say his reputation may be the cause, but then what explains trump (The racist/misogynist) increasing popularity among those same demographics? https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...lls-2016-2020/
It's a drastic shift in an oil county because Biden said he is going to push and go along with what the world needs to do, and that's move away from oil for energy.
Moving from oil to alternative energy sources won't lose jobs, it'll create more overall, but the people making $100K a year with no education will be in trouble. It's unfortunate, but we need to move away from it to survive as a species.
It's a drastic shift in an oil county because Biden said he is going to push and go along with what the world needs to do, and that's move away from oil for energy.
Moving from oil to alternative energy sources won't lose jobs, it'll create more overall, but the people making $100K a year with no education will be in trouble. It's unfortunate, but we need to move away from it to survive as a species.
The exit polls in the article i posted, which you quoted, were sampled nationwide. they had nothing to do with oil.
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Let me preface this by stating I don’t really give a shit about American politics. I did a while back but discovered the layer of fat one needs to cut through to get to the meat is so dense, you get full off the fat and your brain can’t go on further.
However:
Trump wins 2016 = 4 years of conspiracy theories about hacking / meddling*
Biden wins 2020 = No proof of hacking / meddling. Stop being a conspiracy theorist!
* There was Russian interference, yes but through the Mueller report, there was no connection to Trump. Also, there was no solid foundation for leveling obstruction charges against him. Going through past MSM clips, it was more what-if’isms rather than solid factual information.
Personally, I think it’s horrible the DNC nominated a walking compost bin to be the leader with a cackling caricature straight out of a Grimm’s fairlytale to be the running mate. I just have to assume that Biden was meant to be ‘the one’ from the start much like Hilary was in 2016. Every other body on the DNC debate stage (minus the now VP) was just filler for theatrics and to look like the DNC was passionately concerned over something. What would that be?
Well, based on their past, I’d say the big banks, big pharma, wall street, military weapons manufacturers, health insurance providers etc. etc. You know, that swampy shit.
Also important to remember that Biden & Harris were polling very low at points during the campaign. Harris actually hit that 1% mark. She just wasn’t liked by the public but I guess she gets the identity points because 2020.
But regardless of political leanings, why is the average voter seems so dumb? Well you can honestly thank the American education system which does no favours to its citizens. When 10% of the ENTIRE nation’s schools get a failing grade, that can’t be a good sign. It’s almost as if the government wants people to be dumbed down and therefore corralled into only having a very narrow and linear way of thinking. Would be easier to manipulate and coerce I’d say. Have to do it en masse to ensure a higher success rate.
Trump won in 2016 because people were fed up of the establishment. With zero experience as a politician, he was still literally able to pole vault above the murkiness and right to the top. He was obviously exploited by the DNC goons in MSM to be the one that Hilary would take down with a lightning bolt at 98.4% strength. We all know how that turned out. If Ted Cruz won the nomination, Hilary would have won and I think those projected polls could have had closer accuracy.
When wiikileaks exposed the DNC corruption, Bernie supporters, libertarians and even progressives all voted for Trump as a ‘fuck you’ to the establishment that set up this botched academy award level performance. The Dems (and shadow friends in other institutions) felt jilted at this point and did whatever they could over 4 years to get him out because they were too stupid to just run an honest campaign and had to resort to conspiracy theories, identity politics and fake dossiers to derail the presidency. All this does is create more division, more angst and the country DOESN’T MOVE FORWARD.
Regardless of who’s in charge, you still have an opioid crisis, rampant homelessness, violent crime and mass evictions. The latter will only causes spikes in the former three. Oh and lets add a certain virus into that mix
And why would the media care about any of what I mentioned above ^ . They’re just going to be focused on Trump again and again while people’s lives don’t change and haven’t changed in decades. If anything, due to corona, their lives will get worse.
Love or hate Trump, he was the closest thing to a new type of leader this country could have had. What I mean is when watching the initial DNC picks; I was hoping someone like Andrew Yang or Tulsi Gabbard could have become the nominee. Everyone else was either single issue hysteric or in the case of Biden, a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He’s not going to do anything for the poor people who voted for him.
As far as energy, he’s full of cow farts. He’s already lied about fracking. Let’s see what he actually commits to because I felt the hot air coming out of his breath during the presidential debates.
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I strongly suggest watching CharlieBo313 on youtube. He shows a side of America the MSM wouldn’t bother with.
These are the people who don't have a voice. These are the people who are forgotten and swept under the rug. These are the people living in purgatory. What actions has any side of the political aisle taken to fix this? This is decades of degradation.
I mean this picture pretty much sums up MSM narrative:
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(MSM narrative on the left)
Oh and pray for Yemen (and the rest of the Middle East). One year from now when Trump is long out of the picture, let’s see if Joe carries on the legacy of his buddy who bombed the fuck out of that region. After all, Joe was the co-pilot during those years.
The exit polls in the article i posted, which you quoted, were sampled nationwide. they had nothing to do with oil.
I get it. Minorities love Trump. He has their best interest in mind. Gay people too. They all love him and voted for him, and if they didn't cheat, he would still be president.
You win. Go celebrate
All jokes aside, you are basically saying Trump gained support in groups that were more towards Hilary before. Yet Biden still won... So essentially, Trump double failed. He did better against one of the worst candidates ever known, because people weren't really aware of how bad he could be. The DNC was so corrupt that people wanted nothing to do with them, but turned out in high enough numbers to vote for them again. So... congrats Trump?
Who the fuck cares who voted for who, Biden won, Trump lost. Cling to whatever 'stats' you want all the way to Loserville. Better luck next time you fucking losers.
Thank God there wasn't an actual 'ban' bet between Manic and welfare, it would have been god damn pathetic to watch one side not accepting to leave just like Trump.
OK so trump got like 2% more votes from black people than he did last time... So what? They still hate him overall. He's still a loser
OK so a few percent more young people voted for trump than last time... So what? He's still a loser
And on and on... He's a loser. I think it's time to stop talking about him unless it's to make fun of him, the original purpose of this thread... Go start a "Trump Won The Election" thread if you like, it's a free country
She taught me right from wrong and always told me to stay positive and help others no matter how small the deed - that helping others gives us meaning to carry on. The sun is out today and it's a new day. Life is good. I just needed a slap in the face.
Marco Rubio also did an it's morning in America ad when he was running for the good nomination. Play close attention to the first few seconds of the ad. Notice anything wrong or familiar?
@skinnypup so what you’ve shown me is we just have to wait 25 more years for all these old white republicans to die, then America can start trying to fix itself
As I said before, those statistics are only data utilized by exit voters, with all the mail in votes, that black voter percentage is likely much lower. One can't take out of account the misogynistic element that prevails in some black male culture nonetheless, though.
What I find more disheartening is the white vote. I'll accept more white men voting for Trump than not, but white women? Jesus christ, white women continue to disappoint, Bill Burr was absolutely correct in his monologue on SNL joking about #MeToo, and how white women slept with the blood diamonds "toxic white men" created only to their advantage, and now suddenly want to vilify them.
How a white woman can vote for a pussy grabbing womanizer like Trump, and yet still cling to this idea of MeToo is utterly befuddling to me.
Historically race has always superseded feminism as a focus for white women, this only confirms that fact continues on.
With the way WHO is functioning, is there really any point for any Western countries to stay in it?
The fact of the matter is, WHO has been hijacked by China because China has bought out a ton of developing countries. So when anything meaningful gets proposed, China and its cronies move to shut it down.
The biggest WHO joke this year is of course China's steadfast refusal to let Taiwan in on WHO. [edit -- Actually, the even bigger joke was how the WHO Tedros dude basically sucked up to China the whole time when COVID was breaking out, but I digress.] Taiwan has been the most successful country in the world in holding back the coronavirus, bar none, but China and its cronies refuse to allow Taiwan to share its counter-COVID measures with the rest of the world in WHO.
UN functions in much the same way. The UN Human Rights Council is nothing but a joke when countries like China and Russia are members of the Council.
Both first lady Melania Trump and Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, have approached President Donald Trump about conceding the election, according to news reports.
Kushner has told others that he has urged the president to accept the outcome of the race – even if Trump won’t come to terms with how it was reached, The Associated Press reported. CNN filed a similar report, citing two unnamed sources.
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