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Old 11-10-2020, 12:39 AM   #3551
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Please... Stop. Trump lost. If there are obvious cases of fraud, they'll find it. And fake videos you see on Tick Tock don't count. Also it's not a close enough race for even the most prevalent fraud in history to make a difference. It would have to be something along the lines of absolute cheating throughout the entire country, with millions of fake votes.

In hindsight, although Biden underperformed, the election wasn't even that close. He beat Trump way more easily than Trump beat Hilary. It wasn't one state that swung it either. It wasn't a landslide, but it wasn't close either, once all votes are counted.

You want to see close, go look at 2000, where it came down to Florida, which Bush won by 537 votes. You think GA is close at 12,000, and PA is close at 45,000. In 2000 Gore won NM by 366 votes. WI by 5700 votes. IA by 4000 votes.

It's not that close. Trump is just following the steps required to perform a coup. It was outlined in that video posted here a few days ago. Don't fall for it, you're not a fool. We joke about trumptards wanting to vote in a fascist "authoritarian" president ironically, but here they are actually literally supporting a takeover of the President of the United States. Like what???
Nowhere have I said I'm a Trump supporter nor am I implying the outcome is going to change. I'm talking purely about the integrity of the election and that it's not up to the media to pick the winner. The clip posted as an example demonstrates that ignorance. You're so hyped up on anti-candidate partisanship you're not even reading what I said and just firing off keyword rhetoric. You're frothing at the mouth to post something negative against Trump. I think he's a POS and genuinely lost. Give your head a shake and calm down.
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You know it's bad when FOX NEWS is pulling away from trump's Press Secretary as she spews out the nonsensical claims... Even they know it's dangerous to keep putting that shit out there as part of his plan to stage a coup.

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Nowhere have I said I'm a Trump supporter nor am I implying the outcome is going to change. I'm talking purely about the integrity of the election and that it's not up to the media to pick the winner. The clip posted as an example demonstrates that ignorance. You're so hyped up on anti-candidate partisanship you're not even reading what I said and just firing off keyword rhetoric. You're frothing at the mouth to post something negative against Trump. I think he's a POS and genuinely lost. Give your head a shake and calm down.
No, this is all aside from having some fun at trump's expense. You're asking why people are reacting to trump's claims so strongly. You asked about the very clip of a lady trying to differentiate between "legal votes" and "illegal votes". In other words, you think that mail in votes are illegal (this is their argument)

These claims are VERY DANGEROUS. There are 70 million people who voted for trump, and while not every one of them is a trumptard or a fascist, many of them are. And many of them have guns, and many of them are easily manipulated. Simply by repeating the idea that the election was rigged, these people are being incited towards violence.

Like I said, I don't think you're a fool. But if you are being manipulated by trump, maybe I'm wrong.
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U.S. Senate Majority Leader McConnell does not acknowledge Biden as President-elect or Harris as Vice President-elect.

McConnell says President Trump is 100% within his rights to look into possible irregularities in last week's U.S. election.
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No, this is all aside from having some fun at trump's expense. You're asking why people are reacting to trump's claims so strongly. You asked about the very clip of a lady trying to differentiate between "legal votes" and "illegal votes". In other words, you think that mail in votes are illegal (this is their argument)

These claims are VERY DANGEROUS. There are 70 million people who voted for trump, and while not every one of them is a trumptard or a fascist, many of them are. And many of them have guns, and many of them are easily manipulated. Simply by repeating the idea that the election was rigged, these people are being incited towards violence.

Like I said, I don't think you're a fool. But if you are being manipulated by trump, maybe I'm wrong.
Don't you think that's all the more reason to investigate and prove these claims out?
In Pennsylvania, during the counting process, lawsuits were filed by the trump campaign to allow proper, bipartisan, observation.
You shouldn't have to go through the courts for that.
Why would that even be challenged?
When the country is split, almost right down the middle, you can't allow questionable practices to linger.
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I'm talking purely about the integrity of the election and that it's not up to the media to pick the winner.
Who is supposed to call it officially? When media sources that support Trump, many Republicans, and people from Trumps campaign are agreeing he lost and there was no interference it seems fairly safe for everyone to say yeah that's the result.
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Who is supposed to call it officially? When media sources that support Trump, many Republicans, and people from Trumps campaign are agreeing he lost and there was no interference it seems fairly safe for everyone to say yeah that's the result.
https://theconversation.com/who-form...lection-145212

Definitely not the media sources whether they support Trump or not.
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Assuming that article cited above is true:

In the extraordinary event that no candidate wins in the Electoral College, the House of Representatives meets to elect the next president. This is how John Quincy Adams became president in 1824.

Dems have majority in the House ... check and checkmate.
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Assuming that article cited above is true:

In the extraordinary event that no candidate wins in the Electoral College, the House of Representatives meets to elect the next president. This is how John Quincy Adams became president in 1824.

Dems have majority in the House ... check and checkmate.
"In the extraordinary event that no candidate wins in the Electoral College"
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U.S. Senate Majority Leader McConnell does not acknowledge Biden as President-elect or Harris as Vice President-elect.

McConnell says President Trump is 100% within his rights to look into possible irregularities in last week's U.S. election.
McConnell is not a moron - he's an absolute asshole, but he's not a moron like Trump.

I suspect he's stoking the retard-fire by saying shit like that, as he needs the republicans to stay angry/relevant until the Georgia runoffs so he keeps the senate. He'll dump Trump as soon it's convenient for him to do so.
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Anybody else find it yugely ironic that China and its few allies are the only countries that haven't congratulated Biden on his win lol.


The speed of all the other world leader in accepting Biden, not hard to imagine what they all thought of the last president lol.
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republicans lost and are trying desperately to hang onto power with baseless claims of election fraud. zero evidence except facebook videos and conspiracy theories as usual.
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Assuming that article cited above is true:

In the extraordinary event that no candidate wins in the Electoral College, the House of Representatives meets to elect the next president. This is how John Quincy Adams became president in 1824.

Dems have majority in the House ... check and checkmate.
House delegates.
Of which Republicans have a majority, if I'm not mistaken.
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^ House .. not the Senate.
At the moment, 215 Dems and 199 Rep
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At the moment, 215 Dems and 199 Rep
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That doesn't matter, someone did win the electoral college.

They can count it all again, Trump won't accept the results again, and then what?
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That doesn't matter, someone did win the electoral college.

They can count it all again, Trump won't accept the results again, and then what?
They haven't until they're certified. Technically.
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If that's what helps angry white men sleep at night lol
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Let them do the recounts... maybe they'll find errors and increase Biden's count, that should shut them up. Maybe they'll find republican voter fraud too.
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You can’t pursue a lawsuit because you think something is wrong and don’t like the result. File as many as you want, but the court won’t hear them.

You need proof. All these people say they weren’t allowed access, but they were they just didn’t like how far away they were. Also a system is already in place for vote counting where both registered Democrats and Republicans simultaneously review the process internally.

It’s all baseless shit, it’s going to get thrown out.

So far Trump and his lawyers arguments are about the same as someone trying to prove that God exists “well it must be fraud... cuz otherwise how did I lose?” Sounds just like someone saying God must be real otherwise how does life exist?

Unfortunately for him, courts care about facts and material witnesses and physical evidence. Conspiracy theories are none of these. They exist as theories until such time that they’re quantifiable, which so far has been pretty much never.
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Pompeo, Secretary of State, "Smooth transition to a second Trump administration"

Recount, wait to call it but to state that it will be Trump. How does the USA differ from North Korea.
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FFS, this whole thing is ridiculous, JD13, you're being somewhat obtuse here.

Trump isn't trying to confirm any "legitimacy" of the election, if you actually read the lawsuits submitted, he's simply try to have ballots thrown out and disqualified based on esoteric reasoning in terms of dates received (even if allowed by the state's regulations).

The damage has already been done, the reason why Skinny and some folks are responding to vehemently is because what Trump and the Republicans are doing is creating fake doubt. They know full well there wasn't any fraud, if there was, how did so many Republican senators win in the swing states, and in blue states? You only have one ballot, if there was fraud you'd be seeing far more elected Democrats in senate and the house.

What you're seeing in the election is validation of Republicans on the state level, and repudiation of Trump on the presidential level.

There was no fraud, historically speaking, Republicans are projecting their corruption here, as there are far more examples of abject voter fraud in Republican-led states.

They know full well the votes are legitimate and that Trump lost, this tactic is merely to undermine the result, and foment doubt, which I think it a dangerous nuclear approach. They're essentially setting up the outcome of Biden being an illegitimate president for the next 4 years, whipping their supporters to believe that, with very real civil war-like outcomes.
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^ Led by the king of projection, Trump, hence why that Reddit thread showing a tweet of him in the past condemning others for everything he says/does now exists.

“I pay the most taxes” - paid none
“I am the least racist person in this room” - is racist
“Obama should be working not golfing” - spends every day in office watching tv or playing golf
“I’m the least corrupt person” - most of his friends and associates are either on charges or in jail (or killed themselves)

On and on and on and on and onnnn this list could be longer than this thread.

I have my doubts whether there’s a bigger asshole / more reprehensible person on the entire planet.
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