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Old 01-07-2021, 12:02 AM   #4076
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Which POV is exactly the point I made

One group stormed the law making house to prevent a law from being passed that would remove their democratic rights

One group stormed the law making house to prevent a democratically elected president, by their peers, from being sworn in.

One is trying to protect democracy, the other trying to bypass it. This isn't a POV thing, this is literally what each group is doing.

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Anyway I was done talking about HK on this forum a long time ago, I just thought it was a funny juxtaposition being observed. I won't be discussing it here anymore, so feel free to just disagree. I'll remove the fail
That's just it tho, your POV is that they're attacking democracy, while their POV is they're defending it... Which is the same thing as HK/China situation, that's what I meant by the two situations being the same

I wouldn't talk ab the HK issue either, they're just grabbing anybody now it's fucked
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their POV is they're defending it...
That doesn't matter, it has no basis in reality. Unless you're defending it? Are you a MAGA now? Fuck
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Start at about 5:00. Americans need to figure out the next step. But it’s also Fox News so be ready for still right wing pro messages lol. Calling the “protesters” normal and BLM “thugs”

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That's not what he's saying at all... To blow this riot/attack? Up as much as it has been is an injustice to the horrific events Honda listed... That's what he's saying
Remember Benghazi? 4 people died. 4 people died in Washington today. How many months/years did the cons investigate that?

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Get ready for the most groundbreakingly monumental re-election in the history of the political world.

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Well look what didn't happen.

Is there some sort of consequence deserved for posting 4chan bullshit and other completely unsubstantiated theories just to incite a response? Welfare is doing exactly what Trump and the rest of his cronies are doing but in this thread.
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Trump thread 2.0

All I know is that some of those rioters are dumb hillbillies when they stormed inside the Capitol buildings. Especially the idiot who broke into Pelosi’s office and stole stuff. Government property!

All the pics of them that are posted on this thread now is evidence that can help the US feds put their sorry asses in prison.

There are plenty of security cameras in those US government buildings. Using facial recognition software and government databases to motor vehicle departments or other departments will help the feds find out Bubba’s real name and address quickly.


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Just for one second, think about it in the context of other protests that happened last year, and how they would have been treated if they'd even gone near the White House
I get that that’s the narrative being tossed around but if the cops just started shooting people here, it would have turned out farrrrr worse across the country than little BLM flare ups that have occurred previously
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I get that that’s the narrative being tossed around but if the cops just started shooting people here, it would have turned out farrrrr worse across the country than little BLM flare ups that have occurred previously
And why is that?
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Because for the most part BLM protestors were peaceful and unarmed whereas If the maga supporters started seeing their people getting shot yesterday you can pretty much guarantee people are going to be going out of their way to look for violence and chaos?
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I get that that’s the narrative being tossed around but if the cops just started shooting people here, it would have turned out farrrrr worse across the country than little BLM flare ups that have occurred previously
What exactly are you trying to say. Cops shooting at white people is worth more than cops shooting at black people?
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I think he's saying that all the crazy gun toting rednecks would be taking this as their tyrannical government 2nd amendment scenario to rise up and start civil war.


One of the funniest comments I read on Reddit yesterday:

"$700 Billion Pentagon budget, and the Capitol gets stormed by a Walmart parking lot"
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Footage of the shooting.

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I think he's saying that all the crazy gun toting rednecks would be taking this as their tyrannical government 2nd amendment scenario to rise up and start civil war.


One of the funniest comments I read on Reddit yesterday:

"$700 Billion Pentagon budget, and the Capitol gets stormed by a Walmart parking lot"

Hilarious! sad but true.

The rioters got inside the U.S. Capitol buildings too easily. They got inside the buildings easier than those terrorists in that Gerard Butler movie "Olympus Has Fallen" with some North Korean dudes breaking into the White House.
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Because for the most part BLM protestors were peaceful and unarmed whereas If the maga supporters started seeing their people getting shot yesterday you can pretty much guarantee people are going to be going out of their way to look for violence and chaos?
But why is this okay?

Like why is it socially acceptable and seen as normal for maga supporters to guns out and can incite further violence?

I feel like I'm going crazy here where people are saying for the BLM protestors, you can roll out the national guard and heavily armed soldiers but for MAGA supporters, yeah, lets just be suuuuuper passive about because they might do something.

Shouldn't it be the opposite way?
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That's just it tho, your POV is that they're attacking democracy, while their POV is they're defending it... Which is the same thing as HK/China situation, that's what I meant by the two situations being the same

I wouldn't talk ab the HK issue either, they're just grabbing anybody now it's fucked
The two situations are not quite the same, one happens in a Socialist Country where the main goal of the protest is to subvert totalitarianism and the injustice of the regime, while the other happens in a Democratic Country trying to subvert democracy and preventing the results of the democratic process from happening during a meeting.

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But why is this okay?

Like why is it socially acceptable and seen as normal for maga supporters to guns out and can incite further violence?

I feel like I'm going crazy here where people are saying for the BLM protestors, you can roll out the national guard and heavily armed soldiers but for MAGA supporters, yeah, lets just be suuuuuper passive about because they might do something.

Shouldn't it be the opposite way?
I don’t think it’s ok or accepted it’s just the state of the states and how gross everything is there.
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But why is this okay?

Like why is it socially acceptable and seen as normal for maga supporters to guns out and can incite further violence?

I feel like I'm going crazy here where people are saying for the BLM protestors, you can roll out the national guard and heavily armed soldiers but for MAGA supporters, yeah, lets just be suuuuuper passive about because they might do something.

Shouldn't it be the opposite way?
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If it were black and brown people doing that yesterday then you can bet the entire place would've been a full-on massacre.

[edit] Rioters breached US Capitol security on Wednesday. This was the police response when it was Black protesters on DC streets last year

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The two situations are not quite the same, one happens in a Socialist Country where the main goal of the protest is to subvert totalitarianism and the injustice of the regime, while the other happens in a Democratic Country trying to subvert democracy and preventing the results of the democratic process from happening during a meeting.
Yah but if you asked the ones who were protesting and part of the mob, their answer would be, 'We are trying to preserve freedom and democracy' from their POV. They really believe that they are doing the right thing from having this election 'stolen'. The mob and protesters do not see their action as subverting democracy.
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That doesn't matter, it has no basis in reality. Unless you're defending it? Are you a MAGA now? Fuck
I'm not saying either side is right/wrong, looking beyond that, you can see they're the exact same situation, depending on who you support you'll decide who is right/wrong but that is beyond the point
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Don't hate the playa, hate the game: Trump Is Said to Have Discussed Pardoning Himself
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link is blocked for me so i can't read it...

doesn't he need to be formally charged/accused of something before the pardon?

you can't pre-pardon yourself if authorities go for him AFTER he's out of office can he? or is it the date of the infraction, which happens while in office...?

seems like i'm missing something
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link is blocked for me so i can't read it...

doesn't he need to be formally charged/accused of something before the pardon?

you can't pre-pardon yourself if authorities go for him AFTER he's out of office can he? or is it the date of the infraction, which happens while in office...?

seems like i'm missing something
Hit stop before the page fully loads. Also presidential pardons only work for federal crimes states can still charge him.
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