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100% agree- each issue, whether substance abuse, mental health issue, fleeing violence etc etc each has specific needs to help support. housing is just 1 basic life necessity that needs to be stable in order to apply any needed supports.
Key takeaways from the first hearing on the January 6th US Capitol attack. Trump looks very bad after witness testimony under oath from individuals during the prime time live hearing.
The House select committee that spent the past year looking at the evidence presented about the US Capitol buildings attacks do not have the legal authority to press criminal charges against Cheeto.
What the committee can do is present findings to the American public about what really happened on January 6th. Will the findings change public opinion of Trump?
The interesting timing is that June 9th 2022 is almost fifty years after the Watergate scandal. The scandal that lead to President Nixon's resignation.
The committee revealed testimony from Trump White House officials who said the former President did not want the US Capitol attack to stop, angrily resisted his own advisers who were urging him to call off the rioters and thought his own vice president "deserved" to be hanged.
It also offers a new window into Trump's demeanor during the riot -- something the committee has repeatedly suggested would be a key part of their public hearings.
Vice chair Liz Cheney described testimony from a witness who said Trump was aware of chants to "Hang Mike Pence" and seemed to approve of them.
"Aware of the rioters' chants to 'hang Mike Pence,' the President responded with this sentiment: [quote] 'Maybe our supporters have the right idea.' Mike Pence [quote] 'deserves' it," she said.
Cheney has previously characterized Trump's inaction on January 6 during those 187 minutes as a "dereliction of duty."
Proud Boys and Oath Keepers take center stage
The committee introduced the American public to two of the most militant far-right extremist groups in the country, which were present on January 6: The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers.
These groups were at the vanguard of the riot. They were among the first to breach the building, and are accused of planning violence.
Capitol Police officer's gripping testimony
US Capitol Police officer Caroline Edwards was the first witness who testified, becoming the face of the violence against law enforcement that day.
The committee said that Edwards was the first officer injured by the rioters.
She described her pride in her job to "protect America's symbol of democracy" -- and the vicious public scrutiny she endured after she was knocked unconscious and suffered a traumatic brain injury during the attack.
Edwards called herself "the proud granddaughter" of a Marine veteran who fought in the Korean War.
"I am my grandfather's granddaughter, proud to put on a uniform and serve my country," said Edwards. "They dared to question my honor. They dared to question my loyalty. And they dared to question my duty. I am a proud American, and I will gladly sacrifice everything to make sure that the America my grandfather defended is here for many years to come."
Trump's team and family turn against him
Former Attorney General William Barr said that Trump's claims of voter fraud were "bullshit."
Ivanka Trump said that she respected Barr and "accepted what he was saying" about the election.
Trump spokesman Jason Miller said the campaign data person told Trump in "pretty blunt terms that he was going to lose."
And the committee cited testimony from Trump campaign lawyer Alex Cannon, who testified he told Meadows by "mid-to-late November" that the campaign had come up empty trying to find widespread fraud in key states that Trump lost. Cannon said Meadows responded to his assessment by saying, "So there's no there there."
Pence -- not Trump -- called for help
The committee also showed new video from its interview with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley saying Pence was the one who ordered National Guard troops to respond to the violence on January 6, but that he was told by the White House to say it was Trump.
"Vice President Pence -- there were two or three calls with Vice President Pence. He was very animated, and he issued very explicit, very direct, unambiguous orders. There was no question about that," Milley says in the video.
"He was very animated, very direct, very firm to Secretary Miller. 'Get the military down here, get the guard down here. Put down this situation, et cetera,'" he added, referring to Pence.
Milley also described his interactions with Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows that day, drawing a stark contrast between those conversations with Pence.
"He said: We have to kill the narrative that the vice president is making all the decisions. We need to establish the narrative, you know, that the President is still in charge and that things are steady or stable, or words to that effect," Milley says in the video, referring to what Meadows told him
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Nothings happened yet, nothing will happen down the line. Rich, powerful people don’t get punished in the US, especially if they have a massive part of the population on their side. Punishment is for poor people and non white people.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
She's simply pandering to save face and be "accepted" by the public, and to get back into he good books. I don't believe her pandering for a second.
The bigger story is the fact these two made over half a billion dollars during the 4 years he was in office. How is such corruption not a bigger story in the US?
It's times like these where I think about those Canadians who make the comment "I could just move to the USA, cheaper this, better that, blah blah blah"..
Go for it, if you want to live in that shit show of a country, leave, don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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Yup, Canada Day is coming up. We have a lot to be thankful for.
Chinese coming over to have babies and now Amuricans crossing over to get abortion. Big difference is, aside from the obvious, the Americans will be paying for the procedure. “god bless,” america……………
Congratulations the Republicans in their success of turning the United States into a shithole country.
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Most if not all workplaces generally force people to retire at 65 because they're way past their prime. But somehow it's ok that they run entire nations.
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^ solution is actually mandatory retirement say at age 70. Before they go senile.
If this was the case, 2 of them wouldn't be there, one of which is Clarence Thomas.
The point is it seems like they are powerless to implement meaningful change on any policy in the US that hasn’t been relevant since the 1800s. They used up all their amendments now sky daddy told someone that they don’t get more until some sort of far right prophet from the heavens comes to save them from communism.
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Westopher is correct.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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