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Old 06-29-2024, 10:31 PM   #5801
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How is the other party (cons, republicans) picking the worst possible fucking candidate any different?
It's not any different which is why it's absolutely ridiculous that the Dems/Liberals are giving them this window where they can actually pull off a win. Trump and PP can very well win the next elections and what are you going to do, blame the majority of the public if the Dems/Libs lose? These parties are doing it to themselves.
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IMO, it doesn't actually matter all that much in nearly all normal circumstances whether Biden is senile or not. The whole US gov is a functional and running system that will continue to operate. If Biden in incapable of making the crucial decisions, under normal circumstances I'd imagine them just rubber stamping the recommended suggestion with Biden's name. If he is really incapable of making any urgent critical decisions, there is the long established presidential line of succession.
People put way too much focus on the President/Prime Minister and seem to forget about the huge teams of people behind them that ultimately make it all work. And the team behind Biden is way, way better than the one behind Trump. Same deal with Trudeau and Poilievre.

If the worst option happens and PP and Trump both win I might have to start thinking about getting out of here.
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Worth watching, while keeping in mind we live in a "hot takes" era

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oh damn ... stack the Supreme Court with cons and it will pay back many dividends

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And people wonder why trust in the Supreme Court is close to being at the all time low...
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It's almost impossible to comprehend how fucked up the US is getting, with the supreme court of all things being compromised.

They have to consider impeachment now.

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What aoc is doing is nothing more than a show. It needs a simple majority from house and 2/3 majority from senate. Neither something democrats have at this point.
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What aoc is doing is nothing more than a show. It needs a simple majority from house and 2/3 majority from senate. Neither something democrats have at this point.
Of course it's for show. They need the country to realize how insane this is. Impeachment will never happen, but they have to go through with it
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Ahahaha... I love how lefties are trying to paint as unfair as possible to the ruling and going absolutely banana when something don't go in their favor.

Skinny, if you actually spend a few minutes reading the verdict instead of just relying on what MSM or lefties influencers, you'd see that the SCOTUS ruling has nothing to do with letting presidents be kings.

They merely clarified what type of criminal immunity the POTUS has as defined by the Constitution. The verdict basically states that the president enjoys immunity from criminal prosecutions for any official acts that are within his role as the president and NOT immune for anything unofficial and personal.

SCOTUS then threw the case back to lower courts asking them to pay special attention to whether or not, whatever they are trying to persecute Trump for, are official acts.

Context people! Enough of just spreading arguments or opinions and pass them as the truth.
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What’s stopping the president from claiming a potentially criminal personal/unofficial act as an official act?

It doesn’t bother you that the president is immune from some acts that would result in a criminal prosecution for regular people? If that isn’t above the law, I don’t know what is.
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What’s stopping the president from claiming a potentially criminal personal/unofficial act as an official act?

It doesn’t bother you that the president is immune from some acts that would result in a criminal prosecution for regular people? If that isn’t above the law, I don’t know what is.
The decision power of whether an act is official or unofficial lies in the court of law. The president doesn't have the ultimate say.

He could very well think what he's doing is on official role, but if the court feels otherwise, he doesn't get a pass.

That's what the SCOTUS decision was about. The question asked was that whether or not POTUS enjoys broad immunity, the SCOTUS said yes to an extent, and explained what falls within immunity and what doesn't. The lower courts are now in charge to look at the cases to see whether what he was doing is something official or something personal.
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^ If that's the case, why is Trump asking for a review of his hush money verdict?

At its very best, this ruling has allowed for people like him to abuse the system and buy more time to get into office and wipe their own records clean.

It's chipping away... get rid of this impedance... then go after the next one... then the next one.

You're talking like you think people like Trump have an honest and legitimate goal in mind that isn't nefarious?
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If Hehe has any interest to hear what legal experts have to say on the subject regarding how harmful the SCOTUS has done, have a listen to the following:

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This is exactly it in the video, anything can be construed as "official duties" if it's on work time, it's a matter of opinion and if the person being accused ALSO holds the cards for saying what facts come out about all the who/what/where/why/how of a situation, that's even more dangerous.

Hehe runs his own business, I'm sure he's gone out for lunch with friends on numerous occasions and then said "Hold on guys, 'Commercial Real Estate' okay there we go, we talked about business, I got this one it's a write-off for me now anyway"

They basically just gave that exact same power to the President.
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What aoc is doing is nothing more than a show. It needs a simple majority from house and 2/3 majority from senate. Neither something democrats have at this point.
No duh, do you even know how politics works?

You force the vote, you see who votes where, you then campaign based on those votes.

Pretty simple.
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Exactly, they've left the idea of "official duties" vague, on purpose.

Ultimately the goal of this whole ruling was to kick the can down the road, force the ongoing cases to be reviewed once again, allowing for all of these to be pushed to after the election.

That was the entire goal on the Trump side, and he won that.

Let's not even talk about the other cases where they've levied absolutely insane decisions on, in the last week.
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Cheeto is probably laughing at this announcement:

Donald Trump will not be sentenced on his business fraud conviction until September, a New York judge ruled Tuesday in the wake of Monday’s Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity.

The delay in sentencing means that the former president is likely to escape any concrete punishment for his felony conviction during the summer, at the same time that Trump’s election bid has been boosted by President Joe Biden’s debate flop that has Democrats wondering whether to replace their nominee.

Trump was scheduled to be sentenced on July 11. Judge Juan Merchan said the former president will now be sentenced on September 18, “if such is still necessary.”
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Do you guys think this Supreme Court decision could sway any undecided voters or moderate Republicans to vote Biden instead of Trump?

Making someone above the law is really a very slippery slope and a quick pathway to dictatorship...
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Imagine dickriding trump so hard you think this isn't a really, really bad thing.
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It's a bad thing for ANY president to have, but especially him.

Say what you want about Biden's age and policies, but at least he seems like a good person.
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Whether you're leftwing or rightwing, no one should be happy about the Supreme Court's verdict. So called "libertarians" should be enraged by the decision.

That Chevron ruling is also pretty damning, and I think more people should be talking about it. They've essentially stripped federal oversight, which is a massive step backwards.
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trump sets the bar so low that you don't even have to be an exceptionally good person to contrast starkly with him.
if you arent a rapist, pedo, traitor, draft dodger, tax fraud, grifter, and the list goes on... then you're a probably an ordinary citizen and probably more fit for office than this criminal.
also it boils my blood that he pardoned all his criminal friends who were finally put in jail after lifetimes of political crimes.

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