I mean look at this very thread. There's no hope with a lot of these people. They dismiss reality as "lefties influence"

Also don't forget that a lot of them actually want a Christian nationalist autocracy; Trump or not. They've been raised to hate and be ignorant. For them, Trump is just a tool. A useful idiot. He's not even Christian, he's just a grifter, but he's useful to them.

Isn't that basically the Republicans goal with Project 2025?

Lol maybe hehe but who’s “dick riding”

How the fuck could any party trot a senile old man out into a nationwide CNN debate and fumble that badly and not wake up?

I think Mike outlined it before in terms of Partisan politics propping up your leader at all costs because they got you where you are and basically.. you don’t care about your constituents but the party that got you there over -everything-

Everyone can go on about “it’s not just Biden” etc. but does it not speak volumes to the party as a whole when you trot out retarded grandpa to a debate with an obviously superior speaker in Trump only to get destroyed?

I don’t care either way, Trump is a total clown and both these options are -terrible- but it’s the exact same situation at Canadian liberals

You have such a terrible, unlikable, leader, but you’ll ride the sinking ship into the ground rather than question your leadership

no one caresssss

all they care for are their pockets and once Trump is in power, money will flow - from deals, land, approvals, rebates.... more vacations, 1st class....

No different than work; those who care about the company versus those who genuinely wanting the company / client to do well.

^ Someone probably said the same thing in 1998 before Putin became Emperor lol

Lol.

When court have 34 felonies on Trump
Lefties: respect the court.

When SCOTUS rules that Trump has immunity
The same lefties: we’re gonna impeach the judges.

This is the sad state we are in.

Remove the bias and read the actual verdict. It’s a bit of legal jargon but not something that can’t be understood. Then make your own decision.

SCOTUS explanations are usually very straightforward. It leaves nothing for interpretation as their work usually surrounds interpretations of law and constitution.

If you don't understand that the Supreme Court taking apart the legal process due to bias and favours is different than a court case I don't know what to tell you.

There is a growing number of prominent officials in the Democrat party who want Biden to withdraw from the presidential race.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/polit...ats/index.html

If Sleepy Joe does withdraw from the presidential race, who are the potential candidates to run for the presidency as a Democrat? Here is a list:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-possibilities

Some of the potential candidates to run for the presidency IF Biden withdrew:

VP Kamala Harris: Poor approval ratings for the Vice President. I also don't think that many Americans would vote for a female, mixed race (African American, Indian) president. Heck, many Americans did not vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016. If Biden resigns, then Harris automatically becomes President.

Gavin Newsom: California governor.

JB Pritzker: Illinois governor.

It's okay guys, Hehe read it and he says the ruling is okay. Ignores all other salient points.

Actual lawyers and some members of the Supreme Court who dissented saying it's vague and too open to interpretation and therefore prone to mis-use? Lefties.

The funniest thing about these posts is that there's a passive aggressive suggestion being made that one of us is really smart and knows more than the rest of us, and the rest of us are sheep who just don't understand... yet the person making that assertation would, without any critical thinking whatsoever, take whatever someone in certain positions of power, in this case a Supreme Court Justice, says and label it as unassailable as there is zero chance they are corrupt or biased or ever doing anything wrong.

Who is really the sheep in that situation? Blind trust should never be given to individuals OR institutions. Ever. Regardless if you're left, centre or right.

Newsom would be the smart choice to replace Biden if they actually care about winning. Kamala would probably get less votes than Biden lol

So the debate's impact is reverberating, with Biden dropping behind Trump by 7% now, and he is seriously weighing in on whether he can continue with the campaign.

At this point, I think it is all over now -- Trump is gonna be the next POTUS.

FML...

IMO, the mere fact that Biden is "considering" whether to withdraw means he and the Democrats have already conceded, at least as far as whether Biden would run is concerned.

And if Biden doesn't run, there is too little time for any other Democrat candidate to drum up support across the US. There is too little exposure, and the candidate's profile too low on a national scale to amount to any serious threat to Trump.

I dunno about the other candidates, but Harris would absolutely get trounced by Trump.

IIRC Newsom is mostly getting mixed review from his own state. If he isn't even able to secure majority support in his home state / Democratic heaven, things wouldn't bode well when you extrapolate him to the national scale...

Buddy and I made a bet if Biden will withdraw before July 15th.

He went yes, I went no.

We'll see.

France votes in a left wing party, UK does the same in the last week.

Hoping this is the tale of the tape for the upcoming election in the US as well.

It's funny as people here say "the libs caused inflation" yet these countries with right wing governments across the world were facing the same inflationary issues or worse and are now shifting left.
It's like we MIGHT be part of a macroeconomic system that affects dozens of countries across the world?

I say this all the time. It's a complete fallacy to think modern "conservatism" equates to a productive and stimulated economy. It's fascinating that such a narrative has been continued to be parroted by folks, when data shows us this simply isn't true.

Modern conservatism is not the economic conservatism of the 60/70s, those people are long gone and dead, as is its ideology. Richard Nixon's Republican government formed the EPA, could you imagine modern Republicans eschewing their corrupt funders to form such an institution for the public today? Not a chance in hell.

So if it’s all the same, then maybe we can just live in a society where repeat, chronic criminals aren’t murdering people on parole and sex offenders running amok on bail?

Not that it really matters but the left leaning party didn’t “win” anything in France, it basically amounts to the same propped up coalitions in Canada, likely even weaker than here, the seats are 182-163-143 between the French parties

What do you mean Honda?

The left party (NFP) picked up 57 seats, that's a huge win.

Macron's approval rating has been in the dumpster for over a year there, sitting as low as 30%. This election was primed for the right to win big, and they didn't.

I'd say that's a massive loss for them, a major rebuke, and a massive win for the center-left.

I notice you keep mentioning this criminality narrative, which in my opinion is far more complicated than you're making it, that involves the judicial system which carries precedent. I'm curious, what party leaders are pushing an idea that rapist and murders should be allowed on the streets? Isn't Ontario run by a Conservative government? Why haven't they tackled the crime out there? Why are the cops telling people to leave their keys in the car, ignoring the problem.

From my perspective is seems the left and right in terms of electorate are all on the same page on this issue, we need changes, but governance is sucks on all ends, and we're atrophied to get anything done.

In that, the party didn’t gain a majority or any real power when you read into it.

It’s likely even more unstable than the NDP/Liberal coalition as it’s made up of 4-5 individual parties united.

Not to say that people didn’t want it to lean that way, but I think it’s far more clouded than these weird stories running headlines like “the Nazis didn’t win!!” Etc.

stop using big words like macroeconomic :troll:

monkaS

Celebs like George Clooney coming out telling Biden to resign and then we get this fucking press conference lolol fucking hell..

The whole system has gotta be rigged at this point, how the fuck could you EVER trot this guy out there? Trump is a slam dunk.

I'm really not a conspiracy theorist kinda guy but if Biden goes through with running for President at this point I have to believe there is something else going on here, like how the fuck is this happening.

Him saying the wrong things / calling out the wrong names or places is not new -- he had done plenty of that in the last election's campaigning as well. But the problem now is, of course, with his disastrous "debate" performance and all the talk and pressure around him being too old to run again, it is creating a far bigger negative impact than it did before.

At this point, I have no clue what he or the Democrats are thinking, and they are seriously fxxked regardless of whether Biden runs or quits. But as long as he does not withdraw, this age and competency thing are gonna haunt him all the way until election day.

FailFish

It's weird how "he called someone the wrong name" is somehow worse than "he started a riot to attempt to overthrow the democratic process"
It's absolutely fucking braindead.
This is the difference between dems and republicans. Dems don't want someone who should be in a nursing home as their leader anymore.
Republicans are constantly sucking the dick of a D-list reality tv actor who's a convicted felon and has had to pay out hundreds of millions of dollars in civil suits to his rape victims.
What the actual fuck is going on in the US.

I think what makes it obviously so blatant and bad is that after the total disaster that was the debate, you then come up and make multiple slip ups when there’s essentially no pressure to perform and you should be at your best.

Reality star, all the BS etc. that comes with Trump, he isn’t a senile, incompetent old man when it comes to speaking. And that’s obviously saying somthing given the dumb shit he has said in the past.

It’s no different than Canadas situation. Regardless of the leader simply being a “figure head” etc. people will become so disenfranchised with their party they will vote for anyone but them.