Trump thread 2.0

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https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1824500980035076317

OMG... has Harris or anyone in her campaign ever done at least Econ101?!

"Eliminating medical debt for millions of Americans"
"Providing a $25,000 subsidy for first-time homebuyers"
Meaning the gov't printing more money to pay out. And providing money for downpayment does not bring down the price of houses. In fact, you artificially drive up demand driving it further!

"Ban price gouging"... so, what happened in Venezuela, Cuba, and Argentina was not enough of an evidence that price control doesn't work?

https://twitter.com/YALiberty/status/1824159771680968893

Please lefties here in the thread, don't tell me that you think her proposed policies are actually good.

[68style]

I honestly don't care, you think Trump's 10-20% tariffs are a good answer though? The same Trump who never pays his bills and commits fraud constantly is financially responsible?

Governments come in and out with their economic "policies" since the beginning of time... we just move forward as a society regardless.

What I care about is Christian nationals & white supremacists running the most powerful country in the world, and you should too.

Go ahead and get a Republican in office if you think they're "so good" at finances (history shows that is NOT the case), but make it someone who isn't an extremist. That's totally fine, they can be as fiscally right/conservative as they want, but the social extremism has got to go.

P.S. you are using your chart in an extremely misleading way, prices soaring in Venezuela isn't due to his changing of 1 policy, it's correlated with him being ELECTED. He's changed any number of things in that time including destroying democracy in the country.

[Hehe]

........ the hates some lefties have can overcome their reason.

Originally Posted by 68style

I honestly don't care, you think Trump's 10-20% tariffs are a good answer though? The same Trump who never pays his bills and commits fraud constantly is financially responsible?

We can argue this all day, but what's different between his tariffs vs. other protection mechanism that we have in place such as dairy industry supply management system?

Governments come in and out with their economic "policies" since the beginning of time... we just move forward as a society regardless.

What I care about is Christian nationals & white supremacists running the most powerful country in the world, and you should too.

I actually bothered enough to look into this claim so I asked ChatGPT for examples of "White Supremacist" policies that he introduced during his term. Here's the result:

The Trump administration implemented several policies that were criticized for having racial undertones or being perceived as catering to white nationalist sentiments. However, it’s important to note that while these policies were controversial and widely debated, the administration and its supporters did not characterize them as “white supremacist.” Instead, these policies were often framed in terms of national security, law and order, or immigration control. Here are some examples:

1. Muslim Ban

2. Family Separation at the Border

3. Restriction of Asylum Seekers

4. Ending DACA

5. Support for Confederate Monuments

6. Rhetoric and Policies on Race and Crime

7. COVID-19 Rhetoric

1 is questionable, true.

2-4 So, you are saying that people should have compassion for those who broke the laws and not for those who obey them? No2 specifically, it's the same system in US/Canada and probably everywhere in Western society that when parents are taken when they break law, the gov't takeover custody of children if there is no alternative.

5 Harris' ancestor was a slave owner. I don't see her coming out to condemn her ancestor. Should we not focus on the contributions of these people who they made monuments to remember them instead of them doing things that were factually legal back then?

These monuments were not made to remember their treatment of slaves, but rather other contributions they made to society.

Go ahead and get a Republican in office if you think they're "so good" at finances (history shows that is NOT the case), but make it someone who isn't an extremist. That's totally fine, they can be as fiscally right/conservative as they want, but the social extremism has got to go.

[b] Oh... so you are telling me that Harris is not a left-extremist? I was criticizing her for not having a policy. I apologize. I'd rather her not have any policies because the they are exactly what's defined as extremely left.

P.S. you are using your chart in an extremely misleading way, prices soaring in Venezuela isn't due to his changing of 1 policy, it's correlated him being ELECTED. He's changed any number of things in that time.

Price control was introduced by Chavez. But the difference between Chavez and Maduro was Chavez actually spent the money they got from petro to buy those stuff. Maduro just took all that money.

So you are telling me that society can burn and suffer as long as Trump doesn't win? You should take a good look at Venezuela before you move to Calgary.

[supafamous]

Twitter X

Trump: You're all going to be thrown into a communist system. You will be thrown into a system where everybody gets health care.

I mean, even Trump is making a pretty good case for Kamala's policies. Healthcare for EVERYONE?!?

[underscore]

Originally Posted by Hehe

I actually bothered enough to look into this claim so I asked ChatGPT

You do realize that doesn't count as actually looking into something right? At all.

Originally Posted by Hehe

5 Harris' ancestor was a slave owner. I don't see her coming out to condemn her ancestor. Should we not focus on the contributions of these people who they made monuments to remember them instead of them doing things that were factually legal back then?

If you try really hard maybe you can figure out how a black person ends up with a slave owner ancestor. Maybe try going beyond ChatGPT for this one. I'll even give you a hint - consent wasn't involved.

[CivicBlues]

lol...what an argument. Basically every Black Person living in the Americas has a slave owner ancestor. Ever wonder why African-Americans don't look like African-Africans?

Hehe you might want to look up Argumentative Hyperbole, Donald Trump loves to do that and you seem to take to it as well.

Everything I don't like is communism! Every time the government spends money I don't agree with it's is going to turn us into Venezuela!

[The Producer]

forgive medical debt. dismantle the corrupt predatory medical insurance scheme that created the debt in the first place. medicare for all isn't socialism. it's progressive. it's democratic.

everybody benefits

(except shareholders)

[mikemhg]

Hehe you're a fucking retard man, with all due respect. With all your parent's "guidance" they sure failed you in many respects as a person.

You think going after the fact that some white dude power fucked one of her great grannies is an indictment of her or something? What weird fucking logic you have.

You ever meet a light-skinned African American with black parents? You know why that is? Slave owners fucked their slaves, that's as American as apple pie you doof, who in their right mind would see that as some kind of scandal to diminish her? I hope the Republicans keep parroting that idiotic argument, watch the black vote end up being 99% Democrat with all that bullshit.

By the way, use some nuance with your thinking.

•Eliminating medical debt for millions of Americans
•Capping prescription drug costs

The above is pretty much a blanket statement of introducing a type of universal health care system, along with using scales of economy to allow the federal government to impose reasonable pricing for low cost alternatives to generic and widely used drugs, something Canada has done for decades now (why do you think Americans buy their insulin up here).

That isn't "crashing" the economy, it just makes simple sense for the only westernized country to not carry a universally adopted health care system.

[supafamous]

I only started reading this thread a few months ago and at least now I know who the 2nd worst person on RS is (after Charles in Charge).

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by supafamous

I only started reading this thread a few months ago and at least now I know who the 2nd worst person on RS is (after Charles in Charge).

I always thought he was just a clueless nepo baby, but holy shit the mask really came off in this thread.

[bobbinka]

[CRS]

Originally Posted by Hehe

These monuments were not made to remember their treatment of slaves, but rather other contributions they made to society.

Please tell me how these people were able to make the "other contributions" to society...

[Razor Ramon HG]

Got fight club in here real quick

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Hehe you're a fucking retard man, with all due respect. With all your parent's "guidance" they sure failed you in many respects as a person.

You think going after the fact that some white dude power fucked one of her great grannies is an indictment of her or something? What weird fucking logic you have.

You ever meet a light-skinned African American with black parents? You know why that is? Slave owners fucked their slaves, that's as American as apple pie you doof, who in their right mind would see that as some kind of scandal to diminish her? I hope the Republicans keep parroting that idiotic argument, watch the black vote end up being 99% Democrat with all that bullshit.

By the way, use some nuance with your thinking.

•Eliminating medical debt for millions of Americans
•Capping prescription drug costs

The above is pretty much a blanket statement of introducing a type of universal health care system, along with using scales of economy to allow the federal government to impose reasonable pricing for low cost alternatives to generic and widely used drugs, something Canada has done for decades now (why do you think Americans buy their insulin up here).

That isn't "crashing" the economy, it just makes simple sense for the only westernized country to not carry a universally adopted health care system.

I've seen and lived through too many socialism failures to be so pessimistic about these policies.

They sound great on paper, but in the countries that did carry them out... what happened to them?

I lived in Argentina. Healthcare is supposedly free. High level education is supposedly free. Heck, even living is supposedly to be free. But guess what happened?

By implementing such a system in healthcare, you create an artificial ceiling to the potential economic benefit derived from providing such service.

What does this lead to? No one in the right mind and has a little bit of money in Argentina relies on public health/education system. There is shortage on everything down to even bandages. And in the university you can have 300ppl+ in a single class!

No investor is willing to invest into anything within the public system. All the best doctors/professors either start a private practice/go to private universities or they leave to somewhere else.

You don't need to look far. Here in Canada our medical system is a clear example. It's universal in a sense... but again, all the best doctors left for better opportunities elsewhere. The brain drain is incredible. And there's a shortage in staff and care. There are patients who die before they are able to see a specialist that they need.

Many Canadians who have money go to US/Mexico to seek private care, because they can't wait to have the medical attention.

I've seen first hand the level of destruction extreme left wing can do to the society. It doesn't take long. One generation is all it takes.

My best childhood friend was shot to death when he tried to protect his wife from a robber. My family was beaten and I was held at gunpoint due to high crime when I was 13.

Don't fucking come and lecture me that I failed if your entire life lived in a nice cocoon and you never had to worry for your life.
I made my money by exploiting no one. Whatever success I had in my life was based on the experience, environment, and a bit of luck.

Trump is not perfect. He's fucking mental in some of the shit he talks about. But what I do know is he is the better of the 2 evils. Because failed socialism is something that I'd never ever want to even have the chance to experience again.

[CRS]

I love it when we cherry pick situations.

Please tell me about Nordic counties and their socialist BS/how it is such a disaster over there.

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by CRS

I love it when we cherry pick situations.

Please tell me about Nordic counties and their socialist BS/how it is such a disaster over there.

I'm glad you mention this. This has been the point I've long supported for.

I believe I told this story before but I'll tell it again.

I met a couple from Norway during my honeymoon in France. They told me about their social benefit system that you can claim that you suffered a trauma, be it physical or psychological, doesn't matter, after started working and the gov't will pay you for the rest of your life. No test, no nothing... just file the paperwork.

This led to one of the most eye opening moment in my life. I asked them, but wouldn't there be people who abuse the system?

The couple then replied... "but why would you want to do that? We were taught that the idea is to work hard and contribute to the society somehow, however little that is."

This has been the very point that I have long advocated. We need to get this idea into people. They need to work hard. Success doesn't happen by chance. And I've seen very few who achieved great success without putting in their time.

Instead, liberals want us to believe that the problem is with the system. The reason why people are not succeeding is because our system is purposely suppressing them.

Yes, I know just working hard isn't guaranteeing success. But if one doesn't work hard at all, the chance of succeeding drop by another magnitude if that's ever possible without extreme luck.

So, if you think that we can have a Nordic kind of socialism system... yes, you are in the very same boat as me. You want people to first learn to work hard.

[CRS]

Originally Posted by Hehe

I'm glad you mention this. This has been the point I've long supported for.

I believe I told this story before but I'll tell it again.

I met a couple from Norway during my honeymoon in France. They told me about their social benefit system that you can claim that you suffered a trauma, be it physical or psychological, doesn't matter, after started working and the gov't will pay you for the rest of your life. No test, no nothing... just file the paperwork.

This led to one of the most eye opening moment in my life. I asked them, but wouldn't there be people who abuse the system?

The couple then replied... "but why would you want to do that? We were taught that the idea is to work hard and contribute to the society somehow, however little that is."

This has been the very point that I have long advocated. We need to get this idea into people. They need to work hard. Success doesn't happen by chance. And I've seen very few who achieved great success without putting in their time.

Instead, liberals want us to believe that the problem is with the system. The reason why people are not succeeding is because our system is purposely suppressing them.

Yes, I know just working hard isn't guaranteeing success. But if one doesn't work hard at all, the chance of succeeding drop by another magnitude if that's ever possible without extreme luck.

So, if you think that we can have a Nordic kind of socialism system... yes, you are in the very same boat as me. You want people to first learn to work hard.

Ah yes, the party of small government is definitely not the party that says the problem is with the system.

You realize that Nordic countries, by your definition, are far left extremists, right?

Are you always this good at double speak or are you just a walking contradiction?

[westopher]

So the guy that worked his whole life then get bankrupted by cancer treatment by the American for profit medical system didn't work hard?
There is literally millions of people who have been hard working and had their savings wiped by medical treatment in the US and the mention of doing something about it you are just like UHHHKJIUHBBBBB BUT VENEZUELA BRo every fucking time there's mention of some sort of social benefit mentioned.
Healthcare isn't some slippery slope into a corrupt communist takeover lol.

[CRS]

Originally Posted by westopher

So the guy that worked his whole life then get bankrupted by cancer treatment by the American for profit medical system didn't work hard?
There is literally millions of people who have been hard working and had their savings wiped by medical treatment in the US and the mention of doing something about it you are just like UHHHKJIUHBBBBB BUT VENEZUELA BRo every fucking time there's mention of some sort of social benefit mentioned.
Healthcare isn't some slippery slope into a corrupt communist takeover lol.

Relax, Hehe never saw Breaking Bad. He won't get what you're saying.

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by westopher

So the guy that worked his whole life then get bankrupted by cancer treatment by the American for profit medical system didn't work hard?
There is literally millions of people who have been hard working and had their savings wiped by medical treatment in the US and the mention of doing something about it you are just like UHHHKJIUHBBBBB BUT VENEZUELA BRo every fucking time there's mention of some sort of social benefit mentioned.
Healthcare isn't some slippery slope into a corrupt communist takeover lol.

US healthcare can be improved. I never said it was perfect as is or even the version Trump suggested.

But the other alternative is a pandora box not worth the risk.

I will make one last statement and I think that should sum it up. You are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe.
I won't make another post here until the election is over.

In an ideal world, we want to reward good behaviors, and punish bad behaviors while help mediocracy to progress into good.

The US or Canada we have now is, there is no sure reward to good behavior, mediocracy is acceptable and bad behavior is not exactly punished.

I don't think Rep or Conservative can get all 3 aspects right. But I hope at least they get 2.

The reason I don't support liberal/Dem policies is because they want to suppress reward to good behavior (riches/corporation are BAD!), mediocacy is cherished (it's ok, it's the system failing you. Not your fault) and bad behavior is actually rewarded. (illegal immigrant? Come and get paid!) I'd rather take 2 out of 3 than -2/3.

[westopher]

Yes because no one has money or success available in Canada. No one has nice cars or houses or lives in nice places or gets to do fun things. We are all just waiting in line for loaves of government provided bread and bags of flour and lemons to prevent scurvy.
Our kids go to school and get told to be trannies so they don't have to work and spend their days using the wrong bathroom and if they get sad go do some free heroin!
What fuckin alternate reality do you and people like you live in where you actually believe that success isn't possible here? And if anyone tries to make life better for anyone that isn't the top 0.1% (who most of them are there not because of hard work but family connections and money) they are just telling everyone to give up and have free Lamborghinis while the poor CEOs slave away to keep food on their table.
Its like listening to those fucking retards that talk about how their neighbour on welfare used the money to buy a new x5 and gets paid to stay home and smoke crack while Justin Trudeau personally hand delivers tax dollars to them that he took from a doctor.

[Hondaracer]

Edit* wrote a big rant but figure it’s not worth it.

The summary is that no govt. is ever gonna give a shit about the middle class and regardless of how much of a success you will ever be relative to expectations or your parents, you’re still going to be a wage slave. So in the short term, you vote for people who have your own interests in mind over, let’s face it, “perceived” improvements on freedoms or whatever you want to call it.

[underscore]

Originally Posted by Hehe

I've seen and lived through too many socialism failures to be so pessimistic about these policies.

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I've seen first hand the level of destruction extreme left wing can do to the society. It doesn't take long. One generation is all it takes.

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Because failed socialism is something that I'd never ever want to even have the chance to experience again.

Clearly you haven't seen that much if you think the center-right Democrats are socialist. You do realize they only seem left wing in the US because the GOP has gone so far right.

Originally Posted by Hehe

Whatever success I had in my life was based on the experience, environment, and a bit of luck.

Why does every nepo baby try so hard to downplay the impact their massive privilege had on their ability to be as successful as they are? I suppose it's no surprise people like you like Musk and Trump so much when they do it as well.

I have a friend who is the same way, acts like they're entirely self-made and completely ignores the huge leg up from having all their schooling costs paid for and then inheriting several hundred thousand dollars. But if you ask none of that gets mentioned, just #riseandgrind bullshit.

[68style]

I like how you can't say you don't want Trump to be president because he's a racist criiminal piece of shit without an assumption being made that you're a FAR LEFT EXTREMIST.

There's nothing else left to say dude is just trolling. Nobody is this obtuse.

So you are telling me that society can burn and suffer as long as Trump doesn't win? You should take a good look at Venezuela before you move to Calgary.

This quote it especially galling... sine when did society BURN because some candidate talked about price gouging policies... didn't implement... just talked about? Also I wasn't aware that Calgary, or rather Alberta, was an indepedent state from the rest of Canada with a falsely elected... uh... premiere? What the hell are you even talking about man? Are you loading up rails off your granite countertops or something?

The fact any person of colour supports right wing extremism is suicidal levels of baffling. If anything shouldn't I be the one wishing for the good old days when white people were directing every bit of traffic and wealth?

Crazy.

[SkinnyPupp]

He's 100% trolling, just ignore him imo