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Old Today, 04:34 AM   #6901
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The main issue is that most people consider "the economy" as the major issue (with most unable to even define the word; they just see that the price of gas has gone up in the last 4 years), and the Dems were in the wrong place at the wrong time for the post covid crash. Trump tells them he'll fix it, because he's that rich famous guy from TV, and they believe it. We shall see
It goes back to the unfortunate reality that too many voters are just too fxxking stupid, and democracy doesn't work when the voter base is this stupid because democracy inherently goes against our lizard brain instincts of just following the alpha male.

There is no shortage of news and information pointing out that historically, Democrats manage the economy better than the Republicans. And yet somehow, voters still think an unscrupulous businessman who has filed for bankruptcy at least 4 times is still the better manager of the economy.

On a completely separate note, how likely does RS think Trump can finish his presidency? I am not sure whether the prospect of President Trump or President Vance would be more scary...
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It's almost like Biden sticking around until he strokes out on stage and then shoving Kamala down everyone's throats when NO ONE liked her wasn't a great strategy. Very interesting.

Also Joe Rogan has more pull than Taylor Swift lol
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Some of you guys still don’t fucking get it.

Kamala didn’t just lose the electoral college votes, but also the popular vote. And Republicans are on track to take both senate and house.

The problem is that the economy tanked. Biden and Harris managed it poorly on everything from the economy itself to things that affect the very wellbeing of regular joes. And yet somehow they still decided to campaign on “joy” or whatever facial thing.

There was no clear policy changes or even just laid out the direction it’s going. The moment she said that she would change anything that Joe did, I knew she had lost the election. She had no clue about what to do. You can only go so far with all the aura and celebrity endorsement.

Some of you are so detached from the regular folks that sheer audacity of claiming Kamala was a better choice just

The very detachment from reality is what lost democrats everything. If they would have listened to those folks and address their concerns, she might have had a shot out at least would have lost that bad on senate/house.
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I think what really happened is inflation and everyone is voting for a new gov. Same thing is driving a lot of the votes in Canada. Not really much to do with policy.
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Poor Ukraine. Now trumps best friend Putin can and will do anything knowing that the US ain’t going to step in.

This world is so fucked. Democracy just doesn’t work.

All hail communism.

Or somebody elect a fucking king plz. Make sure he’s benevolent and ensure all the power won’t go to his head.
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Votes are still being counted but seems like Kamala got about 15m less votes than Biden did (81m v 66m) while Trump got 3m less than last time. Assuming there's a few million still to count that's still a huge dropout of voters from last time.

The turnout operation didn't work otherwise this likely would have been a landslide for Kamala.
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I think what really happened is inflation and everyone is voting for a new gov. Same thing is driving a lot of the votes in Canada. Not really much to do with policy.
Outside of just tossing this victory away under the guise of “everyone hates the incumbent!”

People on both sides of the border are done with the runaway liberal BS.

Some feelings gonna be hurt in the next few years. It was never gonna be as good as people delusionally thought under Kamala, it probably won’t be as bad under Trump as everyone here seems to think.

People here weren’t even close in their assessment of the situation.
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Putin is probably laughing now. Cheeto called him to tell him that Ukraine is Russian territory soon?

Say goodbye to US military support to President Zelensky.


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What are the odds that JD Vance has to step in as President in some form or another within the next 4 years?

Whether it's health, impeachment/legal, assassination attempts could be multitudes of possibilities given his age among other things.
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So what's gonna happen to Ukraine and Palestine? RS Russia and Gaza meat now? He said he will end the war in 24h.
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Good news is we won't have to deal with another US election in 4 years cause term limits will be long gone.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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Trump already doing more for me than Turd ever has? lol
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Runaway LIberal BS... lol... you think the democratic party is runaway liberal BS? Have you listened to most of those guys talks?

They're far from left wing extremists... realllllly fuckin far. You're just parroting what Trump and his supporters say out loud instead of thinking critically and looking at facts.
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So what's gonna happen to Ukraine and Palestine? RS Russia and Gaza meat now? He said he will end the war in 24h.
biden/harris are zionists to begin with, so nothing will be lost there other than less stern warnings to israel when they kill thousands of kids.
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Genuinely troubled. Was I wrong in predicting a Harris win? Yes. Was I wrong for wanting decency at the cost of higher price for a dozen of eggs? No.

"Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it." Just because the majority of people voted one way, it doesn't make something 'right'.

The cost of living thing/economy is obviously a global worldwide phenomenon and as someone said, Biden/Harris were at the wrong place at the wrong time? Do I agree with all the liberal stuff of the Dems, no, but I'm willing to accept some of that over threats of personal violence, vandetta, convictions, power mongering, and Prez supporting riots on country's own capital. So now what ... this means that America is OK with his actions on Jan 6? All is forgotten? Cray cray world. Character as leader of US over economy all day and every day.
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Some of you are so detached from the regular folks that sheer audacity of claiming Kamala was a better choice just
This is just a bizarre statement. I don't mean an offence by this, as in I'm happy for you that you made your bag, but you haven't had to work at an actual job-job in like 10+ years, and even when you did it was the type of job where you got flown around the world in first class dealing with extremely wealthy clients.

What makes you think you're in touch with regular folk? Or that you can tell people here that do work in and around regular people every day that they're the ones who don't know what's up?

Having a beer once or twice a year with your tenants =/= knowing regular folk.
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Runaway LIberal BS... lol... you think the democratic party is runaway liberal BS? Have you listened to most of those guys talks?

They're far from left wing extremists... realllllly fuckin far. You're just parroting what Trump and his supporters say out loud instead of thinking critically and looking at facts.
The irony is, a a lot of you guys have been harping on this idea of Trump calling the election rigged etc. and him questioning the process

Now the process, overwhelmingly sided with him, proved the democratic process works and he’s won without a doubt in both popular vote and seats

And now it’s “democracy doesn’t work” because your candidate wasn’t the one to win..

lol.. ok.

You’ll see the same thing in Canada shortly.
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Another thing to note that the free trade agreement, USMCA, between the US, Mexico, and Canada will be renegotiated under a Trump administration to be more favourable for the Americans.

Yeah, sure, our stock portfolios might go up in value in the short term because of Trump's business friendly corporate tax cuts.

Then what? Trump is always pro-American. He is a protectionist. He will try to get more manufacturing jobs in the U.S.

The next round of negotiations for the free trade agreement between the US, Canada, and Mexico will be quite unfavourable for Canada and Mexico. 100 percent bad for Canada.

Here is what the USMCA does for Canada, for now:

CUSMA provides Canadian small businesses more privileged access to the United States and Mexican markets by phasing out tariffs on most Canadian goods. It ensures duty-free market access for over 99 percent of Canadian exports to all three countries.
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^ the irony is that Trump banged the "election fraud, it's rigged" drum all week (arguably the past 4 yrs) and now that he's won, do you think he'll bang that drum again?
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yeah really, asides from being happy that your anti woke candidate won, what makes you guys think this is good for canada in any way shape or form?
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The irony is, a a lot of you guys have been harping on this idea of Trump calling the election rigged etc. and him questioning the process

Now the process, overwhelmingly sided with him, proved the democratic process works and he’s won without a doubt in both popular vote and seats

And now it’s “democracy doesn’t work” because your candidate wasn’t the one to win..

lol.. ok.

You’ll see the same thing in Canada shortly.
They're not the same thing.

Think on this for a moment: Trump spent the last 2 weeks (or... 5 years arguably) constantly saying the entire voting system is rigged, but then he won. So is it suddenly not rigged now?

Democracy not working is a way of describing the fact that people don't know what they're voting for anymore and don't understand the issues.

I'm under no pretense that the next governing party in Canada will be anyone besides the Conservative Party... that's a money in the bank bet. It's not necessarily for the right reasons though... it's going to happen because people have become extremely contrarian, which isn't the objective of a democracy.
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