Trump thread 2.0

[Hakkaboy]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

It’s exactly what I said on the last page though.

I think both Trump and PP are total fucking clowns, and they’ve proven as such.

However, I cannot bring myself to vote for the liberal party, and as a result, I must vote for PP.

I think this was amplified 10 million fold in the states for this election. I guarantee you a fairly sizeable portion of the US population were trying to hold down their lunch as they marked their ballot red, however, many probably felt like that was the only choice to be made.

But in the US, they could've still voted red for the house/senate while voting for someone else for president, unlike here in Canada.

That is the most baffling thing to me. I know most politicians bend the truth or not be transparent in order to win votes, but it seems that Trump just straight up make up shit, no matter how big or small.

[Badhobz]

We really are in the worst timeline. I blame that gen z retard who couldn’t make the shot. Lousy kids… can’t do anything right. A few more inches to the right and neo Hitler would have been done

[Great68]

Originally Posted by supafamous

A number of things can be true about voters since we're talking about 150m or so voters (those that voted plus about another 80m or so that didn't)

- Some are really suffering from the effects of the economy, specifically inflation. The lack of a social safety net and low wages for entry level workers in the US is a real killer for them. These people just want change as it seems like the guy in charge doesn't care or isn't capable enough - it doesn't matter how bad a person Trump is, they want something new.

- Some are just ignorant. Witness the spike in searches on election of day of "who is running for president?" "did Biden step down?" etc. They don't know basic economics or politics. The less education you have the more likely you vote for the Republican - that's been true for a long time.

- Some are into grievance politics. They see people different from them and they want to hate them and anyone who shows the same anger as them gets their vote even if the actual policies are bad for them (cutting food stamps or medicaid). These are often disenfranchised white males and religious southerners.



I don't agree with the sentiment that it's the liberals who got focused on woke/social issues - it's the right who turned things like abortion, gay rights, transgender people in washrooms, sex education, banning books in schools into issues. They looked for the drama and used it to stir up hate and fear. They created fake stories of "men" going into women's washrooms - Trump would talk about kids getting sex changes at school without their parents approval.

Do I think liberals don't talk about their economics success enough? Yeah, they consistently show better economic performance when they are in power but I don't think talking about universal health care or raising minimum wages got buried under woke issues.

What's ironic about your first point is that the republicans aren't exactly known for expanding social safety nets and increasing minimum wages...

Also agree about the focus on the woke/social issues. Other than the abortion issue, the LGBTQ issues were far more heavily brought up with false narrative scare tactics by the republicans.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

That's the echo chamber in effect

Jan 6, abortion rights, trans rights, Palestine... Stuff redditors care about. Extend it further to Trump's insanity, inability to speak, his crimes, his raping, his racism, Epstein and Diddy connections.

None of that matters to more than half voters. For them what matters is who was in charge when eggs became expensive.

Yea. You’re absolutely right lol because why should they care about that?

Because they are good decent people? People eating dog food on food stamps do not give a fuck about those issues.

I think something we vastly underestimate here is how dire many people’s situations are in the states. There are levels of poverty and discontent we do not even come close to anywhere in Canada as much as I harp on that.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Yea. You’re absolutely right lol because why should they care about that?

Because they are good decent people? People eating dog food on food stamps do not give a fuck about those issues.

I think something we vastly underestimate here is how dire many people’s situations are in the states. There are levels of poverty and discontent we do not even come close to anywhere in Canada as much as I harp on that.

I'm not saying they shouldn't care about that. wtf? I am feeling it too on the other side of the planet; I even shared that in a post a few minutes ago.

Blaming the Democrats for it is what's dumb.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

I'm not saying they shouldn't care about that. wtf? I am feeling it too on the other side of the planet; I even shared that in a post a few minutes ago.

Blaming the Democrats for it is what's dumb.

Do people blame them or are they just convinced Trump is the better option? Will Trump put more money in their pockets? If that’s a yes then he gets the vote.

There is so much nuance to this election I think it’s hard to grasp the scope of why people vote for who they do.

At any rate the majority figure Trump provides a better future than Kamala

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Do people blame them or are they just convinced Trump is the better option? Will Trump put more money in their pockets? If that’s a yes then he gets the vote.

There is so much nuance to this election I think it’s hard to grasp the scope of why people vote for who they do.

At any rate the majority figure Trump provides a better future than Kamala

So they are convinced he'd do a better job.. I guess that's just another way of saying the Dems didn't do a good job. If a lot of the people who voted in 2020 thought they did, they would have come back to vote again. But they didn't, and the non-whites and non-blacks who did come back switched sides.

[SkinnyPupp]

Wise words from Bernie, as usual. He got fucked by the Dems.

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[The Producer]

the world is a better place w Bernie in it. Thanked - but also, thanks for posting this.

[unit]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Do people blame them or are they just convinced Trump is the better option? Will Trump put more money in their pockets? If that’s a yes then he gets the vote.

There is so much nuance to this election I think it’s hard to grasp the scope of why people vote for who they do.

At any rate the majority figure Trump provides a better future than Kamala

will trump actually put more money in their pocket or is that just an election promise? only time will tell. so far what i've seen from trump is a lot of promises and a lot of lies. par for the course for his entire personality.

[JDMDreams]

Will trump free Diddy? Make Diddy great again

[Harvey Specter]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

My biggest anger was how many of these democratic pundits wanted to talk about January 6th, including Harris and Biden.

Every time they'd get up there and say "Trump is a threat to democracy!", "He tried to throw a coup", "What about January 6th!!!" my fucking blood would BOIL.

No one outside of the bloody wonky partisan DC-sphere gave a flying fuck about January 6th. Most people looked at it as a bunch of goofies having a bit of a party. It wasn't a coup, the government wasn't even close to being overthrown, these idiots weren't organized in any meaningful manner to achieve that.

Whining about January 6th isn't a bloody platform, and I never understood why 4 years later the Democrats spent so much energy harping on about it as opposed to the real issues people are focused on. January 6th when polled to people didn't even fall in the Top 10 of major items.

Democrats were trolled into thinking that voters cared enough about these issues to win them votes. The lawsuits, the New York trial, the assassination attempt, all this played into Trump’s hand and used it against the Dems.

[Harvey Specter]

Originally Posted by 68style

Will they though?

Those types of people aren't exactly what I'd call introspective.

They'll just blame some other left wing establishment like environmental people or scientists or, if it happens fast enough, Trudeau for not getting the win for them.

They're never going to blame their beliefs daddy.

It'll be hard to blame the left when their employer tells them they're getting canned because of US tariffs.

[JDMDreams]

You can't blame the Mexicans anymore if you deport them all

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by unit

will trump actually put more money in their pocket or is that just an election promise? only time will tell. so far what i've seen from trump is a lot of promises and a lot of lies. par for the course for his entire personality.

Trump isn't putting any money into the pockets of poor or working class folks. Food stamps are going to get cut, health care for the poor will be cut, nothing will happen with minimum wage while worker protections will get rolled back. Now that the Republicans control all 3 levels of gov't expect life to get real shitty if you're poor or working class.

The only safety net that won't get cut is social security b/c the seniors will riot on the Capitol and make Jan 6th look like a picnic.

[SkinnyPupp]

This tweet is going around. Not sure if it's true but I absolutely wouldn't be surprised if it was. There's probably millions of voters in the same situation (looks like it's from just some guy, not one of those twitter clout chasers)

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[The Producer]

https://thebeaverton.com/2024/11/i-c...for-poilievre/

“When Poilievre becomes Prime Minister next year, he’s gonna stand up to Trump. They’re so different in ways that I can’t even describe. Don’t even ask me what those ways are. Just trust me, bro. He’ll bring Canada home again.”

[Harvey Specter]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

This tweet is going around. Not sure if it's true but I absolutely wouldn't be surprised if it was. There's probably millions of voters in the same situation (looks like it's from just some guy, not one of those twitter clout chasers)

https://x.com/numfuksteinstan/status...17219443720445

Probably true, since most Americans are dumber than a doorknob.

I also believe Trump’s deportation plan will be watered down due to the inroads he have made with Latino voters, which Republicans will need for 2028. I bet his deportations will consist of a few busloads of criminals boarding military planes, and that’ll be the last we hear about it. Similar to his 'great wall' on the southern border, which was literally just 1 mile long.

[Dbone]

Originally Posted by unit

will trump actually put more money in their pocket or is that just an election promise? only time will tell. so far what i've seen from trump is a lot of promises and a lot of lies. par for the course for his entire personality.

60% tariffs on cheap Chinese good mean he's going to tax the shit out of the poor.

Tax breaks on tips? Do people ever claim enough in tips to even pay tax?

[CivicBlues]

^If Trump goes thru with that, the tip options in US restaurants will be:
30%
40%
50%

Get fucked US tipping culture.

[SkinnyPupp]

Low/middle income people making money from tips will benefit. Low/middle income people who don't will be fucked. It's just another form of inequality, even at the same income level.

This was just a way to appeal to a base and make them forget that the wealthiest are the ones who get the real breaks. Not their brothers and sisters who are struggling at the same salary but in a different career.

[Badhobz]

US manufacturing. Yeah sure go ahead. Make those plastic flip flops (crocs) in the US and see how that goes.

Same with 90% of the other shit you stock in Walmart. If his tariffs pass it’ll doom the US and the world

[Harvey Specter]

Yay for tax breaks that will add trillions to the national debt, only to have that debt sold off to foreign entities you claim are enemies of the state.

And let’s not forget that Republicans once positioned themselves as the party dedicated to reducing deficits, with Elon Musk warning about the potential long term impact on economic stability if spending wasn't controlled. I guess that’s out the window now.

[Harvey Specter]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

US manufacturing. Yeah sure go ahead. Make those plastic flip flops (crocs) in the US and see how that goes.

Same with 90% of the other shit you stock in Walmart. If his tariffs pass it’ll doom the US and the world

I'm pretty confident Trump would start a trade war. Which country he targets and how far he'd go is anyone’s guess. He's intent on taking a hard line with countries he believes are exploiting America.

He also seems motivated to project strength to his base, showing them that other nations fear American power. But this approach will easily drive up inflation again.

[RevYouUp]

Had a work function today, everyone kept talking about how sad they are and how the dark days will come. Holy, like just move on with your life. One person left early and didn’t even come back. I don’t know how someone can be so emotionally attached to these things.