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Home ownership seems to be what everyone thinks they deserve, but renting isn’t all that bad. If assuming this imaginary person making $50k doesn’t give a fuck about home ownership, they can make it work renting $1,500-$2k and stretch the remaining $1K for food or whatever for every month. It’s not a great life, but they chose to be in that situation. They can live a single life and just do whatever their choices lead to. But, if they really want to own a place, they can find a partner or another forever alone bro/gal that also makes $50K, they can work together to own a home with a gross income of $100K eventually if they budget and are financially savvy.
One of the largest shifts over the past couple of decades has been declining rates of household formation.
Getting married and cohabiting was the thing the majority of people did 30-50 years ago, sometimes against their will and sometimes unhappily.
The desire to have your own house has not gone away, despite the fact that the only way most families were able to buy a house was to pool their resources. Yes, there were a lot of people in the past who got married against their wishes and aspirations. But considering the epidemic of loneliness that we see today, are people, in general, better off staying single and trying to make it on their own? I have my doubts.
Hehe is literally the personification of "born on 3rd base, act like they hit a triple"
Nothing wrong with that by that way, but the way people here are talking about cleaning ladies and passive income I'm thinking most of us were born at least on 1st or 2nd base. Just have some sense of self awareness folks.
but but he once worked 14 hours a day for literally months!!
but but he once worked 14 hours a day for literally months!!
Which is also the classic mental gymnastics done by the class in which he's within.
Defining "hard-working" by the number of hours one spends at their job and “optimizing” themselves, these self-reported numbers from “successful” people are likely greatly exaggerated.
Furthermore, long hours don’t mean someone is engaging in useful or socially-positive tasks. Performative workaholism is partially achieved by recoding leisure activities as productive work (e.g. getting drunk at a “networking event” instead of a “party,” or playing golf with clients).
It's all fluffy bullshit for investor class folks that were born on 3rd base to convince themselves of being "hard-workers" as opposed to having the proverbial "luck of the draw".
Most people should just cope with the fact that you can't do anything about Trump being in power and move on with your life if you're actually getting that stressed out about it. Outside of this thread and maybe some small talk at work about how 'crazy' it is I don't allow something like this to affect my mood at all.
Four years from now the world isn't going to look like a Mad Max movie, stop with the doom and gloom.
I don't agree with a lot of what has been said above. When you look back at the first Trump term, a LOT of shxt happened, and a trail of unfortunate consequences were either set in motion, or actually took place.
The Canadian auto manufacturing sector got a raw deal out of CUSMA / USMCA, and the auto manufacturing sector is big business in Ontario. Some would suggest that our dairy industry got screwed as well, although I don't know enough to know whether how fair the new agreement was.
Trump's mishandling and downplaying of the pandemic literally lead to tons of people dying in the US, and he added fuel to the idiot conspiracy theories surrounding COVID and vaccines. You literally can't get more doomy and gloomy than that.
There have always been racist and right wing undercurrents in Canada and the States, but Trump's rise to power emboldened these idiots and gave them an environment to thrive. The entire political landscape since Trump has shifted to the right very noticeably.
As mentioned before, there is a Ukrainian kid at my child's school. She didn't end up becoming close friends with my kid, but they apparently still play and do stuff together at school. Assuming Trump follows up on his promise to "end the Russia-Ukraine war in 24 hrs before swearing into office", I feel badly about how the most likely outcome of that "ending the war" is gonna turn out.
I won't lose sleep over Trump's Supreme Court appointments, but I know those appointments did far more harm than they did good.
I don't have any good expections out of the 2026 CUSMA review, and I expect our Canadian economy will be negatively affected by Trump's 2nd term. The economic situation will hit home because my own household finances are going to be further stretched, and things are already spread pretty thin now.
Hard working is never a guarantee to success. But I have met very very few who achieved great success without working their ass off.
However, it's also about what define success? If success means that you want to have your own yacht, eating bomboms which fucking beautiful bitches day in and day out, I doubt many could ever achieve that.
But to provide to your dependents and to yourself, achieving psychological financial freedom (where you have enough to eat, roof over your head, have a social life), I personally think many here have achieved that already. The cleaning lady might have also achieve that too.
The problem is that many in our or US society are struggling even that despite working extremely hard. Why is that? The way I see it with the last 4yrs or Biden administration, is that they impose unnecessary regulations.
Say the other day, my GC was literally shouting at the permit office for some minuscule details in the application (something to do with one of their registration/permit or something expiring before the work would be done). And despite my GC telling them that he would get the registration renewed before the expiration date and that the fact that it's a 7mth long project and he still had like half a year to renew his paperwork, but no... they just wouldn't budge.
The bureaucracy that the administration had imposed on regular citizens to achieve success defies common sense. And instead of putting a hard stop to prevent them from working, why not work with them? Tell them that we will start your registration renewal process together with the permit application so that he can get everything in time.
You can bet my GC was leaning more and more toward voting for Trump after that encounter. Governmental/bureaucratic requirements are there for safety/competitive reasons. But when you are using such requirements to prevent him from working, that type of bureaucracy is working against the people and needs to be challenged. The government should work FOR the people.
I don't agree with a lot of what has been said above. When you look back at the first Trump term, a LOT of shxt happened, and a trail of unfortunate consequences were either set in motion, or actually took place.
The Canadian auto manufacturing sector got a raw deal out of CUSMA / USMCA, and the auto manufacturing sector is big business in Ontario. Some would suggest that our dairy industry got screwed as well, although I don't know enough to know whether how fair the new agreement was.
Trump's mishandling and downplaying of the pandemic literally lead to tons of people dying in the US, and he added fuel to the idiot conspiracy theories surrounding COVID and vaccines. You literally can't get more doomy and gloomy than that.
There have always been racist and right wing undercurrents in Canada and the States, but Trump's rise to power emboldened these idiots and gave them an environment to thrive. The entire political landscape since Trump has shifted to the right very noticeably.
As mentioned before, there is a Ukrainian kid at my child's school. She didn't end up becoming close friends with my kid, but they apparently still play and do stuff together at school. Assuming Trump follows up on his promise to "end the Russia-Ukraine war in 24 hrs before swearing into office", I feel badly about how the most likely outcome of that "ending the war" is gonna turn out.
I won't lose sleep over Trump's Supreme Court appointments, but I know those appointments did far more harm than they did good.
I don't have any good expections out of the 2026 CUSMA review, and I expect our Canadian economy will be negatively affected by Trump's 2nd term. The economic situation will hit home because my own household finances are going to be further stretched, and things are already spread pretty thin now.
Yeah I hear you, Trump sucks. Until things negativity affect your quality of day to day life why let any of it stress you out on what Trump may or may not do? He talks so much bullshit what he actually follows through on will probably change by the day.
Worry about the things you can control and try and avoid stressing out on the things you can't cause it's unhealthy for you mentally and physically.
the question remains, what actually makes you think that he will do what he says and is not just giving lip service like they are known to do? same with PP, lets see if he will actually remove the "gatekeepers" as he keeps saying and if that is well thought out enough to actually make a meaningful difference in the process. i understand everyone is unhappy with the way things are and voted for change, but if you seriously think positive change is coming because they know how to say things that make people clap, i'd call you gullible.
I don't agree with a lot of what has been said above. When you look back at the first Trump term, a LOT of shxt happened, and a trail of unfortunate consequences were either set in motion, or actually took place.
The Canadian auto manufacturing sector got a raw deal out of CUSMA / USMCA, and the auto manufacturing sector is big business in Ontario. Some would suggest that our dairy industry got screwed as well, although I don't know enough to know whether how fair the new agreement was.
Trump's mishandling and downplaying of the pandemic literally lead to tons of people dying in the US, and he added fuel to the idiot conspiracy theories surrounding COVID and vaccines. You literally can't get more doomy and gloomy than that.
There have always been racist and right wing undercurrents in Canada and the States, but Trump's rise to power emboldened these idiots and gave them an environment to thrive. The entire political landscape since Trump has shifted to the right very noticeably.
As mentioned before, there is a Ukrainian kid at my child's school. She didn't end up becoming close friends with my kid, but they apparently still play and do stuff together at school. Assuming Trump follows up on his promise to "end the Russia-Ukraine war in 24 hrs before swearing into office", I feel badly about how the most likely outcome of that "ending the war" is gonna turn out.
I won't lose sleep over Trump's Supreme Court appointments, but I know those appointments did far more harm than they did good.
I don't have any good expections out of the 2026 CUSMA review, and I expect our Canadian economy will be negatively affected by Trump's 2nd term. The economic situation will hit home because my own household finances are going to be further stretched, and things are already spread pretty thin now.
Marky's comment is supremely ignorant in many regards, and no offence to you. I watched the temperature change first hand during Trump's tenure in office, people were definitely more emboldened to fly their racist tendencies, this is 100% true.
Say the other day, my GC was literally shouting at the permit office for some minuscule details in the application (something to do with one of their registration/permit or something expiring before the work would be done). And despite my GC telling them that he would get the registration renewed before the expiration date and that the fact that it's a 7mth long project and he still had like half a year to renew his paperwork, but no... they just wouldn't budge.
That sounds very frustrating. Please educate me on what that has to do with the White House, or (assuming this happened in the US) what part of the federal government has any impact on this topic?
I had some permit fun while building my house, I can't imagine cursing Trudeau or the federal Liberals for it though.
alright guys im gonna try to be as clear as possible lol...
all the stuff you guys talk about... are valid points... economy, inflation, Israel... etc whatever.
but let's be fucking real.
If you took 10000 random trump supporters and asked them about those topics... you'd probably get some different answers, different view points, some educated, some uneducated... probably a lot uneducated LOL...
but the ONE SINGLE FACTOR that every single trump supporter would agree on, and spit out the same answer would be the culture war. the woke shit. every single one of them would give the same answer: they're sick of it.
you don't have to look past that ONE singular point to know why he won.
every other topic is icing on the cake.
get. that. in. your. heads.
it's very simple. people hate that woke shit. and if you don't... it is why you don't understand what happened... and are still shitting on trump supporters by calling them names.
there is not one trump supporter that embraces the woke culture. 0.
it all boils down to that ONE thing.
even Elon Musk joined the campaign due to that ONE point.
don't make a mountain out of a molehill. it doesn't really go past the woke stuff. the intolerant left, the censorship, the hypocrisy, the elitist attitude, the calling everyone who isn't one of them a nazi, the trans and gay shit being forced down everyone's throats at every turn.
you can call it whatever you want... xenophobe, homophobe, fascist... whatever you want to label it... but you're wrong. people are tired of it, and the attitude you guys put out, are pushing more people to the other side.
if you have a higher degree of reading social sentiment, it is so obvious. if you have more than 20 friends that you talk to... it is so obvious. if people trust you enough to actually tell you how they feel... it is so obvious.
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You see how fuckin stupid that is though right?
I'm sick of gay people talking about being gay so I will vote based on feeling like it's ok to call them a faggot again.
You didn't need to write so many words to make that point, as usual.
I see a fuck of a lot more fuck trudeau stickers, thin blue line patches and trump flags in a day than I see rainbows.
People need to revisit who the fragile ones are.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
You see how fuckin stupid that is though right?
I'm sick of gay people talking about being gay so I will vote based on feeling like it's ok to call them a faggot again.
You didn't need to write so many words to make that point, as usual.
I see a fuck of a lot more fuck trudeau stickers, thin blue line patches and trump flags in a day than I see rainbows.
People need to revisit who the fragile ones are.
you can say whatever you want, but again, you're wrong.
people are sick of it. when I say people, I mean majority, and obviously you're not in that majority.
no body said they wanna call them faggots again. they just don't want it to be plastered everywhere, in social media, in movies, shows, schools, work... etc.
you see a lot more fuck Trudeau stickers, but you don't see the millions of normal people that hide the fact that they're sick of the woke stuff, they don't have stickers, they don't speak up, they pretend at work that they're not...
but deep down inside, they are sick of it. they just wont tell you... you know why? because you can get in trouble for it. the extreme left will attack them for being racist, biggots, xenophobic, transphobic, nazi... whatever you wanna call it.
it's also why the left NEVER bring up these topics because they themselves don't wanna be attacked by their own.
there is no more discourse allowed, you cannot talk about it without being attacked. so people just don't talk about it, but they feel it, and now you see it revealed in the votes.
what makes me laugh is you guys are LITERALLY arguing against people that support trump...
and you're not even willing to listen to why they support him.
you're getting answers straight from the source, yet you guys just keep calling trump supporters idiots and then going on to talk about some high level economics and geopolitical stuff that even you guys yourselves are not qualified to talk about.
but everyone is qualified to talk about the woke stuff. and literally... every trump supporter does not support the woke stuff.
you can so easily piece it together. you just have to accept those points and it makes sense.
lol, open your ears, and accept that fact.
every single trump supporter, does not support the cultural war/woke stuff... that is the ONLY point that matters, it is like 85% of the issue. the rest of the 15% is split up between the other factors you guys squabble about.
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People notice things more often when they are told to be mad about it. Like I said, these people need a thicker skin. No one's ever tried to get me to be gay. No company, no person, no educational institution.
Harden the fuck up princess. If this woke shit hurts your feelings so bad, ignore it. Are you in the group upset about the atrocity of rewriting history to make the little mermaid black?
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
People notice things more often when they are told to be mad about it. Like I said, these people need a thicker skin. No one's ever tried to get me to be gay. No company, no person, no educational institution.
Harden the fuck up princess. If this woke shit hurts your feelings so bad, ignore it. Are you in the group upset about the atrocity of rewriting history to make the little mermaid black?
bro... you must be woke LOL. you just don't know it yet.
you can take a seat in the back of the bus now, cuz the majority do not agree with how you perceive the issue.
you are wrong.
im telling you straight facts... people don't like it... when I say people, I mean majority of people... and im willing to be that is globally as well, not just the USA.
and you're telling me everyone should grow thicker skin... think about how stupid THAT sounds. the world is literally against you, and you're telling everyone they're wrong on a social subject that has no objective answer.
i really believe that the right wing media has turned the woke thing into a culture war and taught the right wingers to hate it, more than they actually hate it. it was an easy way to stoke the flames of decisiveness and the base ate it up so much that they can't even define wokeness at all without googling it.
That wrestler in the Olympics or the opening ceremony queer shit is kind of the perfect example of what he’s talking about though and how it’s like the main story run on the news etc.
Of course people took it way over the top but people question whether this person should be in the olympics as they’ve been banned from other federations etc. even looking into it a bit for an average person maybe you couldn’t come to a conclusion
But then of course it comes out, it’s fine she’s a woman etc. IOC rules it’s fine
And then it’s this big “Gotcha!” Moment like omg you’re such a bigoted POS for even thinking this way!
Like give that shit a rest. Please.
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Ulic is basically agreeing with everyone that voters are being stupid, but putting it in a way that they are somehow justified instead of just "they're being stupid"
It came down to:
-Democrats holding the bag during the post covid era. Forget that Trump left things worse than he should have, and USA managed inflation better than most of the rest of the world
-Candidate that people were "fine" with, but late in the campaign and, well, she's a she. Like Ulic keeps saying in a roundabout way, people are stupid.
-Somehow they believe Trump when he says he will fix everything that Joe Rogan says is wrong with the country. Like Ulic says, they are stupid.
Pronouns, safe spaces, gender identity, tampon in mens bathroom, endless money to reconciliation.
Have to agree, it’s gotten a bit overboard
Most reasonable people would agree, a lot of this "culture war" stuff has gotten bad. Not as bad as the Rogans and Elons say, but enough to be irritating.
Enough to vote in literally the worst candidate in history though? Enough to say fuck it, just burn everything to the ground?
Yes, people are sick of the woke shxt. I am too. I think the movement is over-correcting for the past mistakes and neglect. I don't need to see non-homosexual couples being forced into a movie / TV series when that non-homosexual relationship contributes absolutely nothing to the plot. I don't need to see every ethnicity being represented in any kind of public campaign.
(Healthcare would probably be an exception bcos non-white races are more often overlooked when they develop symptoms for illnesses)
But being anti-woke shouldn't have been a valid reason to vote for such a POS convicted felon / racist / facist to be their president. Doing so speaks volumes about their level of intelligence.
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