Trump thread 2.0

[Badhobz]

I don’t get it. How does this woke or not woke shit impact the daily lives of these trump voters. Mostly white, mostly males.

America is still the land of the free. They can say faggot all day long and grab women by the pussy and get away with it. What changed here ?

I swear I think it’s much more simple than woke or not woke.

They just can’t stand seeing a woman of color in presidents seat. Can’t do it. Too damn racist. So they came out of the wood works voting for Cheeto. A lot of young males just want the world to burn so once again. Cheeto it is.

If a white woman, Hillary couldn’t do it, no way they’d let a black woman be president

[unit]

for sure. the woke thing was happening when biden was around and people came out and voted for him in record numbers. i think saying that wokeness is what lost the election is just plain stupid.

[Badhobz]

Majority of these Americans are dumb as all fuck. Scratch that, majority of people are dumb as fuck. Look at our own provincial election. A shit ton of people thought it was a federal election

Also 1/3 of America didn’t even vote. What the fuck were those clowns doing ? Democracy sucks so much dick nowadays. God all the wars and death fought by our forefathers to protect it, only to have it squandered by these internet ages retards

Remember Hitler got voted in too. This is how it starts.

[Hondaracer]

So again.. you’re saying democracy didn’t work, because the person you thought should win didn’t.

Doesn’t compute.

[Badhobz]

Duh !!! My opinion is the only one that matters stupid

[Hondaracer]

Canada would never elect someone with a Turban or A black person. At least not in the foreseeable future. I think every country has some sort of inherit bias.

I think Hillary did a huge disservice to the future of a woman being elected in the states.

[Badhobz]

Of course. Most people can’t see past their own dicks.

Whatever. I’m going to try and avoid going to the states from now on. I don’t need hehaw coming out of the bush and shooting me just because I look like an illegal immigrant

[!LittleDragon]

Bernie was right when he said the Democrat party turned into the elitist party.

Americans are struggling to get by and Kamala kept pushing social issues. Trump spoke more on fixing the economy.

Social issues like equality, racism, LGBTQ rights, women's rights,etc.... those are nice to haves but when you're struggling to feed and house your family, they're not a priority. If she spoke more about how she was going to turn things around for the poor and the working class, she maybe would've had a chance. When people don't have to worry about having a full belly and a roof over their heads then maybe they will care more about social issues.

This even happens on a larger scale. In 2022 when the Fed was increasing rates and spending was tight, a lot of large corporations had to cut back spending and a lot of large companies scrapped their DEI initiatives. It's a luxury, not a necessity.

The party has increasingly become out of touch and having all these big name celeb endorsements wasn't helping. To us, it looks cool that Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala but to the average Trump voter.... They see a rich woman telling us to vote for Kamala because of abortion rights... how's that going to help them afford their groceries? Ideals are great but you can't eat or live in them...

[Manic!]

The fact that people have not seen shows like Will and Grace, Schitt's Creek or Letterkenny is pretty sad.

[JDMDreams]

^^ but they still can't eat or live. How's tariffs gonna make them eat and live better? Now they have 5 more kids to feed. Yea bring back the jobs, what jobs, apple or Tesla will hire a drunk yee haw?

If you're unemployed why don't you just get a job

https://youtube.com/shorts/mRvKOQvc8...7LIpGQ-q45xr6k

If you want to stop the war, why don't you just stop fighting

[!LittleDragon]

Most Trump voters won't know how tarriffs work... but when one party speaks about fixing the economy by doing this vs another party that barely talked about the economy at all.... they're going to go with the one that said will fix it.

[unit]

Originally Posted by !LittleDragon

Bernie was right when he said the Democrat party turned into the elitist party.

Americans are struggling to get by and Kamala kept pushing social issues. Trump spoke more on fixing the economy.

Social issues like equality, racism, LGBTQ rights, women's rights,etc.... those are nice to haves but when you're struggling to feed and house your family, they're not a priority. If she spoke more about how she was going to turn things around for the poor and the working class, she maybe would've had a chance. When people don't have to worry about having a full belly and a roof over their heads then maybe they will care more about social issues.

This even happens on a larger scale. In 2022 when the Fed was increasing rates and spending was tight, a lot of large corporations had to cut back spending and a lot of large companies scrapped their DEI initiatives. It's a luxury, not a necessity.

The party has increasingly become out of touch and having all these big name celeb endorsements wasn't helping. To us, it looks cool that Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala but to the average Trump voter.... They see a rich woman telling us to vote for Kamala because of abortion rights... how's that going to help them afford their groceries? Ideals are great but you can't eat or live in them...

They showed charts that had income brackets and how much you would save in taxes if you went dem or repub. dem was better for lower-middle, about the same for middle, and worst for upper middle. Even when you show the numbers people rather just hear the words.

[Traum]

Fail -- epic fail.

I meant to say "I don't need to see non-heterosexual couples being forced into a movie / TV when that relationship contributes absolutely nothing to the plot".

Can't believe I got the most critical part of my comment wrong, but I think you guys are smart enough to pick up on what I really wanted to say.

Originally Posted by Traum

Yes, people are sick of the woke shxt. I am too. I think the movement is over-correcting for the past mistakes and neglect. I don't need to see non-homosexual couples being forced into a movie / TV series when that non-homosexual relationship contributes absolutely nothing to the plot. I don't need to see every ethnicity being represented in any kind of public campaign.

(Healthcare would probably be an exception bcos non-white races are more often overlooked when they develop symptoms for illnesses)

As an example of what I meant to say, for those who have watched "Andor", there was a lesbian couple in the group that was doing the heist. To me, the couple was important to the story because part of the tension and the plot revolved around how much those characters cared for each other. In that regard, I do not think orientation / preference of the couple was important -- they could be heterosexual or LGBTQ, and I would totally look past that and consider any orientation as normal and not forced upon the viewers.

Most recently with Agatha All Along, one of the central characters, Billy, is written to be gay. I didn't particularly like that arrangement because I felt like neither his boyfriend nor their relationship contributed anything to the plot. The show could just as well have been written to completely skip the fact that Billy has a boyfriend, and the entire plot would be no different. To me as a viewer, the homosexual relatioship here served no purpose. The only sort of viable conclusion I could come up with for its inclusion is to explicitly have the relationship in there to satisfy the inclusive audience.

I can see Westopher, SkinnyPupp, and supafamous' argument for why a non-heterosexual relationship would be useful to be included in the story. To me, the inclusion for a reason like that makes it a conscious effort to pay lip service to the targeted crowd. IMO the better thing to do is to just make it seamless and contributory to the plot.

It's kind of like when I meet someone, they insist on telling me that they are vegan, and how good veganism is. I have no issue with someone being vegan, but I do take issue if some tries to force it into my face that they are vegan. On the other hand, if I am sick and unhealthy because of a hugly unbalanced diet, and a friend is reminding me how veganism can potentially lead to better health, I would not be offended at all.

Hopefully I haven't dug myself further into a racist / discriminatory / anti-vegan hole LOL~

[Badhobz]

Traum we should go eat a vegan meal

Does Costco fries count ?

[mikemhg]

ULIC sucks at articulating his message, but he has a point to a degree.

Any pro-Trumper I speak with parrots his same sentiments, the woke stuff, the cultural agenda.

Are they whiners? Maybe? Look I'd say I'm a pretty liberal/progressive, but even for me some of this stuff is getting eye rolling. I think what some of us on the left don't realize is how much we're in our own echo chamber, much like the right. Conservatives are just that, they hate change, when you change too much too soon, you get people like Trump rising to the occasion. Apple recently added a pregnant man emoji, who cares right? I don't, but to some of these people it's just more cultural change being rammed down their throats.

Let's take Canada for example, in the span of a few years it's been culturally acceptable to outright hate immigration, to dislike Indian people coming into the country and wanting to ban immigration from India entirely. You couldn't even say that in public 10 years ago without being called a racist, now we discuss this on the forum like it's a regular opinion stance.

You know how that happened? Change, too much and too fast.

By the way, can we find a new word for "woke"? That was always black slang for being aware, being woken to what the government and system is trying to perpetuate to people, it never had anything to do with some leftist cultural idea. It fucking pains me to see the right co-opt that damn term, as with many things they do.

[JDMDreams]

Do you also need a halal mortgage

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Traum we should go eat a vegan meal

Does Costco fries count ?

[Harvey Specter]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

What ?!! Hell no man. What do you mean don’t do stupid things financially. You can literally eat at mcdicks value meal every single day but if you work a 50k a year job in Vancouver you’ll never own a house. What are these so many ways to make money ? If you have one plz share with bic baws as he’s obviously looking for some funds.

No man. You’re either born out of the right vagina and thus your life is easy street, or you have a horseshoe up your ass and buy in at the right time, or you marry into wealth.

Self made guys are far and few in between. Most people are struggling and struggling hard. I would know, I couldn’t buy a Patek yesterday (lousy chinaman wait list)!!! The struggle is real motherfuckers

Well said.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

ULIC sucks at articulating his message, but he has a point to a degree.

Any pro-Trumper I speak with parrots his same sentiments, the woke stuff, the cultural agenda.

Are they whiners? Maybe? Look I'd say I'm a pretty liberal/progressive, but even for me some of this stuff is getting eye rolling. I think what some of us on the left don't realize is how much we're in our own echo chamber, much like the right. Conservatives are just that, they hate change, when you change too much too soon, you get people like Trump rising to the occasion. Apple recently added a pregnant man emoji, who cares right? I don't, but to some of these people it's just more cultural change being rammed down their throats.

Let's take Canada for example, in the span of a few years it's been culturally acceptable to outright hate immigration, to dislike Indian people coming into the country and wanting to ban immigration from India entirely. You couldn't even say that in public 10 years ago without being called a racist, now we discuss this on the forum like it's a regular opinion stance.

You know how that happened? Change, too much and too fast.

By the way, can we find a new word for "woke"? That was always black slang for being aware, being woken to what the government and system is trying to perpetuate to people, it never had anything to do with some leftist cultural idea. It fucking pains me to see the right co-opt that damn term, as with many things they do.

I've been agreeing with him all along. The thing I disagree with is he thinks it's justified. Eye rolling? For sure. Enough to elect Trump? Not so much.

People who say they did it for "the economy" or "inflation" likely wouldn't be able to explain what that means. This election was all vibes. Trump gave these people good vibes, Joe and Kamala didn't. The average person is mindblown, but that's just how it is. There's a lot of Ulics out there. The Loud Minority will always beat the Silent Majority who failed to rally.

If anything, Kamala's campaign vibes felt TOO good and gave too much optimism for people already on her side. And a lot of "Surely nobody is stupid enough to follow through and vote for Trump, right?" Well.. there you go. They are actually.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Traum

I can see Westopher, SkinnyPupp, and supafamous' argument for why a non-heterosexual relationship would be useful to be included in the story. To me, the inclusion for a reason like that makes it a conscious effort to pay lip service to the targeted crowd. IMO the better thing to do is to just make it seamless and contributory to the plot.

Or maybe Billy is gay because he's.. just gay. It doesn't have to be "contributory to the plot". Gay people exist, and that's that. Why can't someone in a story just be gay?

It's like the character from Macguyver who was a little person. It didn't play to her character whatsoever. It was never mentioned, there were never short jokes even though it was a comedy. She just was.. a little person. Because they exist.

What about this makes people angry enough to put their country into the shitter?

Edit: I also remember a line from Survivor, where this guy was sad about leaving his pregnant husband at home. I laughed out loud at the absurdity, even though I was watching by myself. But again.. those people exist and they're not harming me or anyone else. Go be a pregnant man. Nothing about that makes me want to get angry. Yes they cast these people to "shove down my throat" that people different from me exist, but I am not getting mad about it.

But I stopped listening to Joe Rogan years ago, and my brain is mature; maybe that's why.

[Harvey Specter]

Originally Posted by Traum

With Trump's campaign promise / plans to impose a 10% tariff on all US imports, and 60% tariff on all Chinese-made products, is there really just one (or a small handful) of countries that he plans on targeting for a trade war? Besides, Trump is precisely the kind of person that believes everyone else is exploiting the US unless they agree to giving 90% of the profits to the US.

For Canada and Mexico, I would assume that the USMCA should exempt us from that tariff BS -- at least until it is due for review in 2026.

To me, the semiconductor market is gonna be an interesting one because a LOT of US tech, many of which are highly profitable or innovative -- nVidia, ChatGPT, Apple, Tesla, etc. -- are totally dependent on TSMC manufacturing in Taiwan. Intel or domestic manufacturing has zero hope in catching up to TW TSMC on this front in the short and medium term. So the only way I see it is -- exemptions will be granted for a list of items that the US desires, with high end semiconductors being at the top of that list. But once the floodgate for exemptions is opened, I wonder how big it would open up to other goods.

China is Trump's primary target, which explains the wave of hacks linked to Chinese groups over the past month, particularly targeting individuals close to him. They’re likely trying to gain leverage by collecting dirt, as it seems China already knows he's going make an example out of them. We’ll have to see how this unfolds.

As for Canada, I predict he'll turn his attention to our oil exports. Canadian oil is costly to produce, so we rely on high global oil prices. If he decides to increase US oil production and flood the market, driving prices down, it could be disastrous for Alberta and our economy.

[Qmx323]

Time to scoop up cheap Jetskis, ATVs and RVs if that happens ^^

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

Do you also need a halal mortgage

You want Halal move to Alberta.


https://globalnews.ca/news/10850863/...lal-mortgages/

The Alberta government has introduced legislation that will, if passed, enable provincially regulated banks to offer halal mortgages and home financing products.

Paying and receiving interest is prohibited in the Islamic faith under Shariah law, which means traditional interest-based mortgages aren’t an option for many Muslims in Canada.

A few private lending firms, such as the Edmonton-based Canadian Halal Financing Corp., do currently offer alternative financing plans that don’t include interest payments, but these alternatives aren’t available through any of Canada’s larger banks.

These alternative financing plans include a program where a financial institution buys a home on behalf of a client and charges fixed monthly payments, which includes a profit margin for the institution, until the client’s home is paid off.

[CivicBlues]

The fuck? 3 more pages of this since I checked this morning. Oh right, Ulic. Right...carry on.


p.s. didn't we already have a Woke thread not all that long ago?

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Manic!

You want Halal move to Alberta.


https://globalnews.ca/news/10850863/...lal-mortgages/

Receiving interest was also prohibited in Catholicism, but paying it was not. Jewish people had no problem filling in that gap

I think its the source of most anti-semitism. People have have been getting into insurmountable debt and blaming "the Jews" for centuries lol

[!LittleDragon]

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