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we need US more than they need us
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09-01-2018, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero  we need US more than they need us | IMO, that's the fallacy a lot of Canadians believe in.
On absolute terms, you are quite correct that we need the US more than they need us -- it's a simple matter of market size, and there is no hope we can compete with them on equal footings. But in a strategic negotiation situation, I don't think both sides necessarily need to stand on equal grounds before negotiations can take place.
Here is an idea that I've previously read about : https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/secon...erty-1.4708630
and I'd think that if our federal gov has the ballz and determination to do it, the results could be more favourable.
TL;DR summary:
- suspend US pharmaceutical patents on Canadian soil
- Canadian pharmaceutical companies can then begin to produce generic equivalents of those US drugs for cheap
- US big pharma will freak out because of our proximity with the US, and their lobbying power in Washington will then become ammunition for our negotiations
When you are dealing with a big bully, you gotta be smart, and strike them where it hurts.
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09-01-2018, 01:51 AM
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won't be much of a war of attrition because the second they turn off routing to Google servers for Canadians we'll raise our white flag
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09-01-2018, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero we need US more than they need us | Was talking from someone from Alcan/Rio Tinto and asked how the US tariffs on aluminum affected them. He said that US cannot produce enough aluminum and it hasn't affected their export to US ... so effectively, Trump has shot himself in the foot. Now US companies needing aluminum has to pay an extra 10% for aluminum and 25% for steel coming from Canada. How does that make America great again? https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...riff-1.4686655 | |
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09-02-2018, 11:03 PM
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#730 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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would Trump be upping the ante right now if Trudeau didn't take a firm stance at G7?
I don't think the crying baby has blasted other Western allies as hard as he has on Canada, the wall aside
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09-02-2018, 11:18 PM
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Everyone knows Prez Dumb Dumb is extremely petty. Had Trudeau not made the "US tariffs were kind of insulting' and that " he will not be pushed around" comments, it is likely that Dumb Dumb wouldn't be coming down as hard on Canada as he is now.
At the same time, had Trudeau not said what he said, Dumb Dumb would likely have taken Trudeau and Canada as a pushover, and he would still be trying to impose a version of NAFTA that is primarily beneficial to the US.
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09-02-2018, 11:50 PM
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#732 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by whitev70r Was talking from someone from Alcan/Rio Tinto and asked how the US tariffs on aluminum affected them. He said that US cannot produce enough aluminum and it hasn't affected their export to US ... so effectively, Trump has shot himself in the foot. Now US companies needing aluminum has to pay an extra 10% for aluminum and 25% for steel coming from Canada. How does that make America great again? https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...riff-1.4686655 | It took 25 years for that industry to dwindle to the point it's at now.
It'll probably take longer than a few months to bring it back.
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09-03-2018, 12:11 AM
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#733 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by welfare It took 25 years for that industry to dwindle to the point it's at now.
It'll probably take longer than a few months to bring it back. | And in the mean time businesses close and americans lose there jobs. Custom Computer Cases | Best Computer Cases | Computer Tower Cases - CaseLabs Quote:
We are very sad to announce that CaseLabs and its parent company will be closing permanently. We have been forced into bankruptcy and liquidation. The tariffs have played a major role raising prices by almost 80% (partly due to associated shortages), which cut deeply into our margins. The default of a large account added greatly to the problem. It hit us at the worst possible time. We reached out for a possible deal that would allow us to continue on and persevere through these difficult times, but in the end, it didn’t happen.
We are doing our best to ship as many orders as we can, but we won’t be able to ship them all. Parts orders should all ship, but we won’t be able to fulfill the full backlog of case orders. We are so incredibly sorry this is happening. Our user community has been very devoted to us and it’s awful to think that we have let any of you down. There are over 20,000 of you out there and we are very grateful for all the support we have received over the years. It was a great journey that we took together and we’re thankful that we got that chance.
We understand that there will likely be a great deal of understandable anger over this and we sincerely apologize. We looked at every option we had. This is certainly not what we envisioned. Some things were just out of our control. We thought we had a way to move forward, but it failed and we disabled the website from taking any more orders.
It was a privilege to serve you and we are so very sorry things turned out this way.
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09-03-2018, 12:23 AM
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#734 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Are you sitting and waiting for me to post in this thread or something?
Doesn't seem like five minutes goes by without you responding to any of my posts.
You that butthurt?
Welfare derangement syndrome?
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09-03-2018, 12:36 AM
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#735 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Traum Everyone knows Prez Dumb Dumb is extremely petty. Had Trudeau not made the "US tariffs were kind of insulting' and that " he will not be pushed around" comments, it is likely that Dumb Dumb wouldn't be coming down as hard on Canada as he is now.
At the same time, had Trudeau not said what he said, Dumb Dumb would likely have taken Trudeau and Canada as a pushover, and he would still be trying to impose a version of NAFTA that is primarily beneficial to the US. | The point is Trudeau wasn't in the position to talk tough.
He had no leverage. And has even less now.
Seemed a little...thin skinned.
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09-03-2018, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by welfare The point is Trudeau wasn't in the position to talk tough.
He had no leverage. And has even less now.
Seemed a little...thin skinned. | The point is -- Trump is a dick and a bully.
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09-03-2018, 01:05 AM
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their average case is like 300-400 USD
i'd rather buy Lian-Li Quote:
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09-03-2018, 01:37 AM
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#738 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero their average case is like 300-400 USD
i'd rather buy Lian-Li | Wouldn't it be funny if they were already going out of business because of their niche market and sky high rates and decided to blame it on tariffs because of their political leanings seen clearly by their previous rantings on Facebook?
Wouldn't that be a hoot.
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09-03-2018, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by welfare Wouldn't it be funny if they were already going out of business because of their niche market and sky high rates and decided to blame it on tariffs because of their political leanings seen clearly by their previous rantings on Facebook?
Wouldn't that be a hoot. | Sky high rates compared to what? Also, the company started in the 70's so they were able to stay open for around 40 years.
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09-03-2018, 05:44 PM
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We all know he's a troll -- and the comment applies equally to welfare as well as Trump.
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09-03-2018, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Sky high rates compared to what? Also, the company started in the 70's so they were able to stay open for around 40 years. | If they couldn't manage a 10% increase in materials without going belly up, their business clearly wasn't thriving
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09-03-2018, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by welfare If they couldn't manage a 10% increase in materials without going belly up, their business clearly wasn't thriving | It was a 25% increase in aluminum costs for them.
Wonder what trumps going to say about this: 
New Nike ad.
I want to get a blown up poster of that.
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09-03-2018, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! It was a 25% increase in aluminum costs for them. | how does a 10% aluminum tariff cost them 25%? Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic!
Wonder what trumps going to say about this:
New Nike ad.
I want to get a blown up poster of that. | speaking of business going belly up..
You should hang it from your ceiling. Right above your bed.
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09-03-2018, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by welfare how does a 10% aluminum tariff cost them 25%?
speaking of business going belly up..
You should hang it from your ceiling. Right above your bed. | Nike has been trending on Twitter for the last 5 plus hours. https://trends24.in/
They are only going to sell more shoes and they already sell out of a lot of the stuff they make.
And it's a 25% increase for caselabs because the buy aluminum sheets and cut the cases out of that. They still have to pay for the aluminum they cut out.
That comes from one sheet of aluminum. 
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09-04-2018, 03:38 AM
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lol make it out of something else. innovate.
always thought computer cases made out of metal was kinda stupid.
they should be made out of non conductive parts.
some kinda high quality plastic or new age material lol.
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09-04-2018, 04:13 AM
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#746 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Manic!
And it's a 25% increase for caselabs because the buy aluminum sheets and cut the cases out of that. They still have to pay for the aluminum they cut out.
That comes from one sheet of aluminum. | Yup. They use a fraction of the material they buy and its Trumps fault 
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09-04-2018, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Manic! It was a 25% increase in aluminum costs for them.
Wonder what trumps going to say about this:
New Nike ad.
I want to get a blown up poster of that. | I wonder if Nike will hang this poster in their sweatshop factories to motivate the workers.
It is also interesting how there is more outrage over this take a knee ad campaign than there is for the work conditions from the Right.
Trump is all concerned about the supposed thousands of businesses and millions of jobs lost because Canada somehow took advantage of the US with NAFTA? Yet companies like Nike can pack up and move production to places like Vietnam, because lowering labour costs is the American Way I guess?
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys I wonder if Nike will hang this poster in their sweatshop factories to motivate the workers.
It is also interesting how there is more outrage over this take a knee ad campaign than there is for the work conditions from the Right.
Trump is all concerned about the supposed thousands of businesses and millions of jobs lost because Canada somehow took advantage of the US with NAFTA? Yet companies like Nike can pack up and move production to places like Vietnam, because lowering labour costs is the American Way I guess? | That's how trump made his money.
How Nike shed its sweatshop image to dominate the shoe industry https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...p-image-2015-6 Quote:
Originally Posted by welfare Yup. They use a fraction of the material they buy and its Trumps fault | Since your an expert maybe you should go down there and show them how it's done.
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09-04-2018, 12:03 PM
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#749 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Manic!
Since your an expert maybe you should go down there and show them how it's done.
| no thanks. You probably should though seeing as how you care so much about it.
Myself, I don't really give a rats behind about a company folding because it relied solely on cheap dumped Chinese metal and charged so much for their product that they couldn't possibly increase their price to make up for the cost.
Maybe that's why nobody bought them/are going out of business/nobody cares.
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09-04-2018, 01:19 PM
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I don’t think Trump cares about Nike... I mean... he’s not exactly athletic... and it would deplete his finite energy to participate in activities requiring Nike apparel
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