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whitev70r 03-03-2025 08:53 PM

Then the East Coast is worth a visit - PEI, Nova Scotia ... don't remember much in New Brunswick.

noclue 03-03-2025 09:16 PM

Highly recommend exploring quebec and the maritimes (try the lobster supper). The only barrier is that domestic flights out there is pretty pricey in the summer (especially newfoundland!) and in some instances europe is cheaper.

Traum 03-03-2025 10:00 PM

Having spent a few years living in Ontario and travelling up and down the 401, I agree with Westopher about Montreal being seriously awesome. Toronto has its charms, and Niagara Falls is a place you'd want to experience at least once (and maybe not more than once lol~), but Montreal is definitely a place I'd want to return to every now and then.

And while you're there already, to me, it makes no sense if you don't also spend some time in Ottawa and Quebec. Ottawa is a little over 2 hours away (by car), and Quebec is ~3+ hrs, and both places are fantastic for tourists in different ways.

Badhobz 03-03-2025 11:06 PM

Yes if you’ve only been to Montreal one time it’s cool. I’ve gone 15 times now and it’s pretty lame. Old port is pretty nice but the rest of it is Zzzzzz.

The big ass church on top of the hill took my money and was suppose to spit out a rosary or something. It didn’t do that so I started smacking it and some church police fucker came out yelling at me.

Schwartz sucks. Crack whore Prostitutes all around that area. Those bagels are stupid too not worth the lineup.

I’ve explored everything in and around the city that I’ve ended up driving to Burlington Vermont last time because I was so bored. Went to Bernie’s home town for lawls.

SkinnyPupp 03-04-2025 03:05 AM

America getting left in the dust along with Russia and North Korea

$840 billion plan to 'Rearm Europe' announced

sonick 03-04-2025 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by noclue (Post 9167385)
Highly recommend exploring quebec and the maritimes (try the lobster supper). The only barrier is that domestic flights out there is pretty pricey in the summer (especially newfoundland!) and in some instances europe is cheaper.

I went to Maritimes 2 years ago in March, was a bit cold but was amazing. Great driving roads.

A few nights in Nova Scotia south shore, then drove up to take an overnight ferry to Newfoundland where I visited Gros Morne national park which was amazing (totally blows any provincial park in BC out of the water), back down to drive the amazing Cabot trail, across to PEI and then flew back from Halifax.

I've seen flights go for around $300-$350 occasionally. Highly recommend.

pastarocket 03-04-2025 07:22 AM

President Dumbass 47 is a fool. He really thinks that he can extract concessions with tariffs by starting a trade war with three countries?? Canada, Mexico, and China are implementing retaliatory tariffs across the board.

Good luck trying to bully three countries at the same time.

The U.S. economy is gonna bleed out into a recession because of this moron.

unit 03-04-2025 07:32 AM

halifax is gonna be soooo busy this summer

unit 03-04-2025 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9167332)
Cannot confirm if this is real but it doesn't even matter anymore since it's impossible to make up stuff that is stupider

https://i.imgur.com/79TqW8u.png

Edit: It's real KEKW

dismantling USAID because they spend money helping other countries is hurting farmers in america.
USAID buys billions in food from US farmers and distributes it to those countries. farmers will have a revenue shortfall of a few billion.
guess who farmers voted for by in large?

Traum 03-04-2025 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 9167403)
President Dumbass 47 is a fool. He really thinks that he can extract concessions with tariffs by starting a trade war with three countries?? Canada, Mexico, and China are implementing retaliatory tariffs across the board.

Let's not forget that out of these 3 countries, 2 are long-standing allies, while the other one is both a strategic trading partner as well as an adversary.

There are lots of good reasons to punish, or at least contain, China. There are no good reasons to pick fights with us and Mexico.

And btw, Dumba$$ 47 is still planning on imposing import tariffs to all other trading partners, unless they sign "bilateral" deals that are lobsidedly in favour of the US, right?

Manic! 03-04-2025 10:10 AM

Just looked at Bambu Labs 3D printers. US price for the A1 is $379 USD in Canada it's $439 CAD so $302 USD. The average American is going to get fckd hard with no lube.

Gumby 03-04-2025 10:40 AM

Well the American could come up to buy it in Canada. Win for the Canadian retailer, and win for the American (assuming he doesn't get hit with a tariff when bringing it back across the border), and L for the US retailers!

pastarocket 03-04-2025 11:42 AM

What about a specific tariff on American made Teslas that are exported to Canada?

Add a 20 percent tariff to them? Make that Swasticar/Musk Mobile more expensive to sell here?

Elon is super rich. He can afford to lose a couple billion with Tesla stock tanking big time now.

unit 03-04-2025 11:55 AM

when you say he can afford it i mean you're not wrong, he will not take some kind of lifestyle hit or anything. he's still going to be eating at expensive restaurants and having personal chefs, jets, yachts, etc...

what he could lose if tesla only has the US market to sell to is his power and reputation as the worlds richest man. he only acts the way he does because he has fuck you money. he can just try to buy out any opposition to him and his brands. 1B, 10B, 44B... doesn't really make much difference to him.

EvoFire 03-04-2025 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 9167444)
when you say he can afford it i mean you're not wrong, he will not take some kind of lifestyle hit or anything. he's still going to be eating at expensive restaurants and having personal chefs, jets, yachts, etc...

what he could lose if tesla only has the US market to sell to is his power and reputation as the worlds richest man. he only acts the way he does because he has fuck you money. he can just try to buy out any opposition to him and his brands. 1B, 10B, 44B... doesn't really make much difference to him.

The richest man has a lot of his monies tied in the Tesla stock. Tank Tesla and his wealth diminishes significantly. A lot of these uber rich people don't actually cash out their stocks, what they do is borrow against them. Once his "collateral" runs out of value to borrow from he'll have to come down to earth.

unit 03-04-2025 12:34 PM

the only issue is that tesla stock price is so divorced from reality that even if they arent making money anymore people will still be buying it.

i think the thing is the board doesnt want to dump elon because they know that if the stock price of TSLA was tied to it's performance as a car company not to elon musk, it could tank even more dramatically.

westopher 03-04-2025 12:36 PM

Tariff them 100%. It's basically putting a tariff directly on the presidents company. Europe is already shifting away from it. His support for the AFD has pissed off a huge amount of wealthy Europeans.
Tesla will be fucked long term as Americans are also shifting away from it. Most of the republican supporters through all of this shit don't have Tesla money.
It won't matter to him long term as he will now just take taxpayer money for space x to takeover the FAA, but long term that won't continue unless they essentially rip up the constitution to keep power following this presidency.

supafamous 03-04-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9167446)
The richest man has a lot of his monies tied in the Tesla stock. Tank Tesla and his wealth diminishes significantly. A lot of these uber rich people don't actually cash out their stocks, what they do is borrow against them. Once his "collateral" runs out of value to borrow from he'll have to come down to earth.

My understanding is that he's got a lot of loans (the Twitter purchase for certain) that are backed by Tesla stock and that if the share price goes down enough then the banks will call those loans back and then Elon is totally fucked. I'm not sure what price that is but Tesla has a market cap that's more than the rest of the entire auto industry yet accounts for only 1% of sales - that makes zero sense.

Tesla has a P/E ratio of 133 while Google is at 22, Amazon is 37, Microsoft is 31, and Toyota is 7. Tesla should be somewhere between Toyota and the tech companies so like 13 (a tenth what is it now).

SkinnyPupp 03-04-2025 12:43 PM

Tesla's Australian sales continue sharp decline as global troubles mount

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Tesla’s sales slump in Australia has deepened, with the electric car maker recording just 1,592 deliveries in February—down more than 70% compared to the same month last year. The drop follows a dismal January, when the company sold only 739 vehicles, its worst monthly result in years.

EvoFire 03-04-2025 12:51 PM

Tesla sales is already down something like 50% across Europe. USA is at a point where they have reached equilibrium and on top of that the usual Tesla demographic is at odds with what Musk is doing. I can't imagine Tesla being hugely popular in China right now either when a) they have competitive EVs and Tesla doesn't have the headstart in that market like they do elsewhere, b) I can't imagine the tariffs on China being popular. I would say give it 6 months if he keeps it up his act for Tesla sales to tank massively and start affect their balance sheet, and therefore their stocks.

unit 03-04-2025 01:06 PM

china announced 10-15% tariffs on the US. if tesla is included in that and i dont see why they wouldnt be, then they are toast in china.

Traum 03-04-2025 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9167450)
I'm not sure what price that is but Tesla has a market cap that's more than the rest of the entire auto industry yet accounts for only 1% of sales - that makes zero sense.

A sizable chunk of Tesla's profits comes from them selling carbon credits to other manufacturers. Last year, Tesla's profits fell by some 23%, but its carbon credit sales went up 54% to $2.76B.

EvoFire 03-04-2025 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9167456)
A sizable chunk of Tesla's profits comes from them selling carbon credits to other manufacturers. Last year, Tesla's profits fell by some 23%, but its carbon credit sales went up 54% to $2.76B.

They only have carbon credits if they have sold cars, if they aren't selling cars there's no credits to sell.

The whole polar opposites of Musk and Trump and Tesla is so weird to me.

badgerx3 03-04-2025 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9167450)
My understanding is that he's got a lot of loans (the Twitter purchase for certain) that are backed by Tesla stock and that if the share price goes down enough then the banks will call those loans back and then Elon is totally fucked. I'm not sure what price that is but Tesla has a market cap that's more than the rest of the entire auto industry yet accounts for only 1% of sales - that makes zero sense.

Tesla has a P/E ratio of 133 while Google is at 22, Amazon is 37, Microsoft is 31, and Toyota is 7. Tesla should be somewhere between Toyota and the tech companies so like 13 (a tenth what is it now).

Since when has the stock market been rational? Fundamentals (the "should") no longer exist.

GLOW 03-04-2025 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9167459)
They only have carbon credits if they have sold cars, if they aren't selling cars there's no credits to sell.

The whole polar opposites of Musk and Trump and Tesla is so weird to me.

would that mean it's worth while for tesla to drop their prices a lot to create sales and cash in on said credits?


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