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Old 02-02-2020, 12:47 PM   #1451
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By comparison to what?

Seems to me the system functioned entirely as intended.
By thwarting a partisan coup.
Now the people can decide for themselves who they want running the country rather than the Democrat party doing it for them.
Maybe if they spent the last 3+ years focusing on why people voted for him, and running candidates who could do better rather than attempting to forcibly remove him, they might be better positioned.

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That list doesn't mean much when you consider the US was never formed to be a full democracy but rather a constitutional republic.
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^ do you have any idea how big of a loser you are?
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^ do you have any idea how big of a loser you are?
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That list doesn't mean much when you consider the US was never formed to be a full democracy but rather a constitutional republic.
hurrr duurrr...the UsA iS a RePuBliK nOT A DeMoCRzy!! If that's the case none of the top 8 countries on that list are democracies either, most are monarchies!!

Please tell me this is a joke...I find it hard to believe even you are susceptible to such a 4chan-y dumbassery.
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Iowa caucus vote results delayed "for quality checks." Expecting Bernie to get fucked over again like 2016.
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hurrr duurrr...the UsA iS a RePuBliK nOT A DeMoCRzy!! If that's the case none of the top 8 countries on that list are democracies either, most are monarchies!!

Please tell me this is a joke...I find it hard to believe even you are susceptible to such a 4chan-y dumbassery.
The point is the framers specifically set in place mechanisms to make their government less democratic, weary of each individual states hindrance to sovereignty.
Is Canada's democracy better because two provinces alone dictate which government leads our country?

So when asked comparatively which systems function better and he lazily posts up a list of the "most democratic" countries, as I said, it doesn't mean much.
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Well day 1 of the DNC shit show and its already clear the democrats are so corrupt they're eating themselves on day 1. Lol. There going to fuck Bernie again. Inb4 blame Russians
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Iowa caucuses, I guess Bernie was going to win so theyre not releasing the results
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Old 02-04-2020, 04:25 PM   #1461
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Maybe one more election, after this one, and the people will have enough?


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Man that coin toss. How can anyone take the dems seriously
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As much of a dumb fuck as Trump is... anticipating another 4 years of him given the competition!
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When a light is shining, Shadows are a constant companion. We see ourselves as building a long-term, side-by-side “Shadow” of tech infrastructure to the Democratic Party and the progressive community at large.
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Nevada, which has also invested in this voting app, has since decided to not to use it in light of what happened in Iowa.

This is an example of how Nevada performed in 2016 without an app:
Just imagine all the caucuses across the country which don't have cameras rolling and an alert press.
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Good for Mitt for having the balls to do that. AND before Welfare go ape shit and fly off the handle, I would applaud a Dem who voted against party lines as well because at least that would show that individuals have a brain and actually think and have an opinion instead of voting how their party told them to.
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Mitt didn’t really have anything to lose, I don’t really define that as courage

He’s a career politician, set for life, with a reputation and not much to lose.
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^ when this term is up, he will NOT get re-elected as a Senator. Guaranteed. So yah, something to lose. There are other ways, he'll be shunned and treated like he has the Coronavirus in the Republican senate, won't get to sit on any important committees, etc.. Oh yah, he loses something ... you watch.
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I can already hear Trump "FAILURE Mitt Romney... couldn't even win at president, what a loser" blah blah blah
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I have to say, it's absolutely disgusting how the Iowa caucus has played out.

This is why I've said from the start, the Democrats are PAID to lose.

Watching the establishment Democrats initially try to throw us Biden, with his fake support, and now this mayor Pete clown? Something about the guy smells stinky to me, and him coming forward and announcing his win, lying to the public like that shows me the kind of slime-ball he is.

They can't keep stonewalling Bernie like this, they are absolutely killing any engagement people hope to have in this 2020 election. It's bizarre to watch because it's so blatant and obvious, these tricks don't work on people the same way in 2020, we're scrutinizing the bullshit now.

What's more creepy is Pete's $43,000 pledge to this Shadow Inc, I mean literally it's amazing when you peer behind the curtain how much corruption there is in politics. It's lucky that the app failed so a lot of this is now coming out, but what if it didn't?

Do we truly know that the establishment hasn't faked or corrupted votes? Were they trying to use the app to fake a front runner here all along? Imagine if this was rolled out to all States for electoral purposes?

There so much to unravel on this, it's amazing.

Then watching Trump cart out Guaido in the State of the Union, still attempting this obvious coup, and watching Democrats applaud this guy when he was announced.

Ugh, it's really disheartening to watch. I can't stand Trump and what he represents, but the establishment within the Democrat party are literally killing any remaining semblance of democracy that country has.
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^ when this term is up, he will NOT get re-elected as a Senator. Guaranteed. So yah, something to lose. There are other ways, he'll be shunned and treated like he has the Coronavirus in the Republican senate, won't get to sit on any important committees, etc.. Oh yah, he loses something ... you watch.
He's 72..
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Trump is 73. Biden is 77. Sanders is 78. Your point is?
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He’s never going to be president, he’s a career politician, he’s got a pension worth millions, and he could leave politics and get a private sector job paying 10 fold what he makes now the second he stepped out of the senate.

It’s a calculated move, he didn’t care about the repercussions clearly.
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Tulsi Gabbard was labelled a coward/Russian asset for voting 'present', believing Trump to be worthy of impeachment, but not under the partisan circumstances the Dems brought forth. She called out the corrupt establishment system we see playing out now in Iowa.
Romney gets labelled a hero for crossing the isle for personal gain. Go figure.
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