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His niece is releasing a book detailing a bunch of sordid details about him and his family, and Bolton's book is also coming out also detailing some pretty insane things here.
The details in the Bolton book appear to be particularly damning.
I'm still absolutely confused how this man has any supporters as this point. People he hires turns against him, his own family turns against him, isn't it wildly apparent what a complete gong show his presidency has been?
They support him by saying "Still better than a democrat". Trump could probably wipe his ass with the American flag and they'd still vote Republican. They're more scared about losing their guns than whatever crazy shit Trump does next.
I'm still absolutely confused how this man has any supporters as this point. People he hires turns against him, his own family turns against him, isn't it wildly apparent what a complete gong show his presidency has been?
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They support him by saying "Still better than a democrat". Trump could probably wipe his ass with the American flag and they'd still vote Republican. They're more scared about losing their guns than whatever crazy shit Trump does next.
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His niece is releasing a book detailing a bunch of sordid details about him and his family, and Bolton's book is also coming out also detailing some pretty insane things here.
The details in the Bolton book appear to be particularly damning.
I believe all of this is what is considered "fake news" by his supporters.
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
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Twitter removes Trump campaign George Floyd tribute video due to a copyright claim
The video appears to have gathered most of its content from social media posts
Published on June 05, 2020.
Credit: Bloomberg News
Twitter on Thursday removed a Trump campaign video tribute to George Floyd due to a copyright claim, the latest escalation in a confrontation between the social media platform and its most influential user.
The @TeamTrump account had tweeted a video collage of images and clips depicting peaceful protests, moments of mourning and law enforcement officers hugging civilians in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, an African-American man, while in police custody. Accompanied by a gentle piano soundtrack and President Donald Trump’s speech about “healing, not hatred,” it urged Americans to unite.
The video, still available to view on the president’s YouTube channel, appears to have gathered most of its content from social media posts, and at least one copyright holder made a complaint to Twitter about the use of their photo, a company spokesperson told The Hill.
Trump has an audience of 81.7 million followers on his personal Twitter account, which he uses to celebrate accomplishments of his administration and, often, lambast opponents. In the wake of Floyd’s death and subsequent protests, he tweeted a warning that “when the looting starts, the shooting starts,” which Twitter deemed to have been in breach of its rules against glorifying violence and led the company to hide that message behind a warning label. Earlier, the social media giant had placed a fact-check notice on another Trump tweet, which also earned the president’s displeasure.
In retaliation for what Trump and his supporters have deemed political bias, the president issued an executive order targeting social media companies like Twitter. The move—which could expose Twitter, Facebook and other technology giants to a flurry of lawsuits—sparked broad condemnation from liberals and even some conservatives who accused the president of launching an unconstitutional assault on free speech.
—Bloomberg News
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Well it's definitely a good sign if his rallies are getting no support. I would just like it better if we didn't have to resort to the very obvious camera angles... If it's bad, a wide angle shot or two would be fine
My question is, do these rallies usually fill arenas? Maybe occasionally, but how often?
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Relative to the coronavirus thread, but also relative to here. Has there been a time in our lifetimes where so much of the world is just collectively disgusted by the US? I mean, the US always has had their enemies, but so many cultures looked to America as a world leader, a place for success, etc. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...rs-with-alarm/
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As coronavirus cases surge in the U.S. South and West, health experts in countries with falling case numbers are watching with a growing sense of alarm and disbelief, with many wondering why virus-stricken U.S. states continue to reopen and why the advice of scientists is often ignored.
“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up,” said Siouxsie Wiles, an infectious-diseases specialist at the University of Auckland in New Zealand — a country that has confirmed only three new cases over the past three weeks and where citizens have now largely returned to their pre-coronavirus routines.
“I can’t imagine what it must be like having to go to work knowing it’s unsafe,” Wiles said of the U.S.-wide economic reopening. “It’s hard to see how this ends. There are just going to be more and more people infected, and more and more deaths. It’s heartbreaking.”
Visitors to the River Walk pass a restaurant that has reopened in San Antonio. (AP Photo/Eric Gay, File)
Visitors to the River Walk pass a restaurant that has reopened in San Antonio. (Eric Gay, File)
China’s actions over the past week stand in stark contrast to those of the United States. In the wake of a new cluster of more than 150 new cases that emerged in Beijing, authorities sealed off neighborhoods, launched a mass testing campaign and imposed travel restrictions.
Meanwhile, President Trump maintains that the United States will not shut down a second time, although a surge in cases has persuaded governors in some states, including Arizona, to back off their opposition to mandatory face coverings in public.
Commentators and experts in Europe, where cases have continued to decline, voiced concerns over the state of the U.S. response. A headline on the website of Germany’s public broadcaster read: “Has the U.S. given up its fight against coronavirus?” Switzerland’s conservative Neue Zürcher Zeitung newspaper concluded, “U.S. increasingly accepts rising covid-19 numbers.”
“The only thing one can say with certainty: There’s nothing surprising about this development,” a journalist wrote in the paper, referring to crowded U.S. beaches and pools during Memorial Day weekend in May.
Some European health experts fear that the rising U.S. caseloads are rooted in a White House response that has at times deviated from the conclusions of leading scientists.
“Many scientists appeared to have reached an adequate assessment of the situation early on [in the United States], but this didn’t translate into a political action plan,” said Thomas Gerlinger, a professor of health sciences at the University of Bielefeld in Germany. For instance, it took a long time for the United States to ramp up testing capacity.
Whereas the U.S. response to the crisis has at times appeared disconnected from American scientists’ publicly available findings, U.S. researchers’ conclusions informed the actions of foreign governments.
“A large portion of [Germany’s] measures that proved effective was based on studies by leading U.S. research institutes,” said Karl Lauterbach, a Harvard-educated epidemiologist who is a member of the German parliament for the Social Democrats, who are part of the coalition government. Lauterbach advised the German parliament and the government during the pandemic.
Despite its far older population, Germany has confirmed fewer than 9,000 coronavirus-linked deaths, compared with almost 120,000 in the United States. (Germany has about one-fourth of the United States’ population.)
Lauterbach cited in particular the work of Marc Lipsitch, a professor of epidemiology at Harvard University, whose research with colleagues recently said that forms of social distancing may have to remain in place into 2022. Lipsitch’s work, Lauterbach said, helped him to convince German Vice Chancellor Olaf Scholz that the pandemic will be “the new normal” for the time being, and it impacted German officials’ thinking on how long their strategy should be in place.
Regarding the effectiveness of face masks, Lauterbach added, “we almost entirely relied on U.S. studies.” Germany was among the first major European countries to make face masks mandatory on public transport and in supermarkets.
Lipsitch said Thursday that he was not previously aware of the impact of his research on German decision-making, but he added that he has spoken to representatives of several other foreign governments in recent weeks, including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and officials or advisers from Canada, New Zealand and South Korea.
Even though Lipsitch cautioned it was impossible for him to say how or if his conversations influenced foreign governments’ thinking, he credited the overall European response as “science-based and a sincere effort to find out what experts in the field believe is a range of possible scenarios and consequences of decisions.”
Lipsitch said he presented some of his research to a White House group in the early stages of the U.S. outbreak but said the Trump administration’s response to the pandemic did not reflect his conclusions. “I think they have cherry-picked models that at each point looked the most rosy, and fundamentally not engaged with the magnitude of the problem,” he said.
The White House has defended its approach as science-based. After a study released in March by Imperial College London predicted 510,000 deaths in Britain and 2.2 million in the United States if the pandemic remained fully uncontrolled, for instance, the Trump administration indicated that it was taking the research into account.
“If we didn’t act quickly and smartly, we would have had, in my opinion and in the opinion of others, anywhere from 10 to 20 and maybe even 25 times the number of deaths,” Trump said two months later.
But European researchers dispute that the U.S. government’s reliance on scientists to inform decision-making comes anywhere near the degree to which many European policymakers have relied on researchers.
After consulting U.S. research and German studies, for instance, German leaders agreed to make reopening dependent on case numbers, meaning restrictions snap back or reopening gets put on hold if the case numbers in a given region exceed a certain threshold.
Meanwhile, several U.S. states have reopened despite rising case numbers.
“I don’t understand that logic,” said Reinhard Busse, a health-care management professor at the Technical University of Berlin.
Lauterbach said that even though most Germans disapproved of Trump before the pandemic, even his staunchest critics in Germany were surprised by how even respected U.S. institutions, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, struggled to respond to the crisis.
The CDC, for instance, initially botched the rollout of test kits in the early stages of the outbreak.
“Like many other aspects of our country, the CDC’s ability to function well is being severely handicapped by the interference coming from the White House,” said Harvard epidemiologist Lipsitch. “All of us in public health very much hope that this is not a permanent condition of the CDC.”
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Some observers fear the damage will be difficult to reverse. “I’ve always thought of the CDC as a reliable and trusted source of information,” said Wiles, the New Zealand specialist. “Not anymore.”
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Other than the odd trip to Vegas or Seattle to watch a ballgame (before Covid) I'm cool with having nothing to do with the US. I'm getting tired of trying to make sense of what they do as a country. Poor people can't get healthcare, they care more about guns than their fellow man, all lives matter when you're not black, and gerrymandering to rig elections.
Canada ain't perfect but it sure as shit isn't close to the USA.
Yah, even when we have differences in Canada, it's not like USA... everyone knows there's tens of thousands of Canadians who spent the last 5 years of their lives posting anti-Trudeau memes but were first in line for CERB money when it started getting handed out. Would a Harper government have done that? Who knows... I'd lean toward probably not... but unlike the USA we don't go around looking for people to divide and conquer through. We still believe in our country, not our individual version of our country.
I've seen a fair number of Americans talking as if COVID-19 is over and done with already and it blows my mind (granted I seen to have some friends and family that think the same so I can only judge the Americans so much).
I'm with MarkyMark in that I won't be going there anytime soon. I was supposed to go to Seattle in August and DC in September but there's no way I'm doing that now. Hell my wife was deadset on taking our kid to Disneyland in a few years but even she agrees that's not going to happen now. Personally I'll miss Cedar Point but that's about it.
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
We had a trip in Hawaii back in February, I don't even count Hawaii as the US, TBH.
Love heading down to Portland for beers, strippers, and tattoos, but going forward that's ended. I feel a sense of guilt at this point spending my dollars in the US, and traveling there, and have no issue passing up on that country for the foreseeable future. I think a lot of people are starting to feel that way about the US.
Like China, it's amazing how the world outlook and opinion of the US has fallen so far backwards in the span of a few mere years here.
even a coast to coast road trip in canada has been ruled out because can't duck down for the return route (was considering a detour to deals gap)
no more autox in vancouver for a while and ridge is out
gas here will probably be back to $6/gal soon
parcels stuck likely 6mos+, gotta pay 25-300% more
hope you guys realize border isn't sealed..if you feel bad supporting their economy you would probably need to halt majority of the purchases even on the shelves here
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everyone knows there's tens of thousands of Canadians who spent the last 5 years of their lives posting anti-Trudeau memes but were first in line for CERB money when it started getting handed out.
meh, collected 4 weeks of EI that i've been paying for 15 years, doesnt take away the freedom to criticize the feds
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