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07-12-2018, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RRxtar  if this is the case, would this accident be any different if the car ran into a dump truck? | In theory, yes. The bumper height of the dump truck would have struck the structural beams within the side of the door, not the top portion of the pillars. The person definitely would not have walked away from that crash and there's still a strong possibility the death would have occurred, speed depending. However, that chance of death is still reduced.
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07-15-2018, 02:52 AM
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everyone should just drive stock cars...  | |
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07-15-2018, 04:14 AM
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Lowering a car 1-2 inches is very different from raising a truck by like a foot or 2?
No bumper is going to ram someone in the head by lowering a car by a few inches...  | |
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07-15-2018, 07:36 AM
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Tell that to the miata owners
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07-16-2018, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 320icar Tell that to the miata owners | Tell them what?
You can't compare lowering a couple inches from stock height to raising like 8"-10" or whatever that height was on that truck.
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07-16-2018, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AzNightmare Tell them what?
You can't compare lowering a couple inches from stock height to raising like 8"-10" or whatever that height was on that truck. | you lower a miata a couple inches, and my stock colorado bumper is at face level
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07-16-2018, 11:07 PM
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and if a truck is raised significantly like that, it's bumper is on every sedan's face level.
A lowered miata is going to be a victim on a stock truck, and that's on the miata. A stock sedan is going to be a victim to a raised truck, and that's not on the sedan.
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07-16-2018, 11:12 PM
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I doubt a lowered miata passenger has much say on the mods on the miata
unless you refuse a ride in modified vehicles
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07-17-2018, 07:48 AM
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if the Camry was lifted we wouldnt have had this problem
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07-17-2018, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by The_AK if the Camry was lifted we wouldnt have had this problem | 
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07-17-2018, 12:30 PM
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This is an interesting argument.
RS being a dominant car community more supported side of the argument.
Lots of you seem to say that lowering a car won't harm others, but please then explain the science to me.
To lower the vehicle, you are putting on coilovers, which are most likely not DOT approved, thus they are illegal. Now you are lowering it past the point where the car optimally performs. You are reducing the surface contact to the road = negligence. You are potentially causing axles to prematurely fail based on the angle they are not meant to perform at = negligence. You are lowering the center of gravity, thus when you hit another car you could easily overturn it and cause way more injury than if it was stock = negligence.
I just wanted to show AzNightmare and others, it's a two way street and trying to place blame can easily blow up in your face. Go and ask a lawyer what you can legally do.
Lastly you have to remember, cars from the factory have been designed in a way where there have been tests, reviews and approvals done typically with engineers stamping drawings to provide assurances and liability. Most of the parts you buy from online retailers don't have that, look at the fine print in the T&C's of the products you are buying. Even for cars, parts can say "off road only" or some other line to absolve them of any liability if you die in an accident because of a part you installed on your car.
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Originally Posted by melloman To lower the vehicle, you are putting on coilovers, which are most likely not DOT approved, thus they are illegal. | Except for all the people using lowering springs...
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07-18-2018, 12:31 AM
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you buy only DOT-approved lightbulbs too?
i try to keep things stock but those are not very strong arguments
it's like saying overclocking your computer components = negligence, increasing risk of house fire
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07-18-2018, 11:18 AM
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Don't ban me bro... 
Anyone in an online car community that modifies their vehicle, calling out truck owners who do the same, is a hypocrite. Just saying.
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07-18-2018, 01:07 PM
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Like I said before, there's a big difference from lowering (your bumper) 1-2" compared to raising your bumper by a foot or so.
There's always cases of extremities like the truck involved in the accident, and cars that are slammed so low that they scrape going over a pebble. Either one is pretty bad imo.
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Originally Posted by JDął Don't ban me bro...
Anyone in an online car community that modifies their vehicle, calling out truck owners who do the same, is a hypocrite. Just saying. | Is this truck raised? It kind of looks like it, but I can't tell. Which is probably a good thing, because it's not ridiculous like the raised truck in the OP news article. I don't have a problem with this..
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07-18-2018, 01:46 PM
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You can raise your truck and still have your bumper within the 2.5' (750mm) maximum height (from lowest point on bumper) regulation.
The truck in the accident looked MUCH higher than that.
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07-18-2018, 01:48 PM
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Any new details on cause of accident? I'm curious as to who's at fault.
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