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anxiety 11-12-2019 12:24 AM

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Dbone 11-12-2019 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dark0821 (Post 8965368)
well just to add to the pool.

I have no reference since I just bought a car.. but for what is worth...

$2042/yr for my 97 Miata

11 years 0 at fault history
0.575
31 yrs old

3mil 3rd party, $300/$300 comprehensive
for work within 15KM

(according to my agent, my "fair" market vaule for my car is $1700) so take it for what is worth, my insurance costs "more" than my car...

Two things to remember.
1- You aren't just insuring your car. It's you, and the cars/people you hit.
2 - Why bother with fully comp on a $2000 car?

yray 11-12-2019 07:55 AM

you can get bmw system and it will still count :lawl:


inv4zn 11-12-2019 09:15 AM

My insurance dropped ~$600 a year before I factor in the AEB discount - IF I don't list my wife.

If I add my wife I save about ~$100 a year with the AEB discount.

My driving record is clean 14 years; wife's driving record is clean but ~5 years.

I'm torn because she hasn't driven the car once in the past 1.5 years...what happens if I don't list her (because she legitimately doesn't drive)?

68style 11-12-2019 10:15 AM

^
It's only a problem if she does drive and then she crashes...

Speed2K 11-12-2019 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 8966108)
My insurance dropped ~$600 a year before I factor in the AEB discount - IF I don't list my wife.

If I add my wife I save about ~$100 a year with the AEB discount.

My driving record is clean 14 years; wife's driving record is clean but ~5 years.

I'm torn because she hasn't driven the car once in the past 1.5 years...what happens if I don't list her (because she legitimately doesn't drive)?

Simple, make sure she never drives it.

Acura604 11-24-2019 06:41 PM

when i went to renew the RDX, the agent asked if it had 'autonomous braking'... the only thing i could think of was it has collision mitigation as described:

(would this be good enough for the additional discount?)


https://i.imgur.com/WX0xAg4.jpg




Autonomous emergency braking (AEB) is a safety feature that uses technology to anticipate when a vehicle is about to have a front-end collision and automatically engages the brakes without the driver’s action. Vehicles equipped with factory-installed autonomous emergency braking (AEB) will be eligible for a 10% discount as AEB has been statistically shown to help prevent crashes.

If you’re not sure whether your vehicle has AEB, check with your dealership or look in your ownership manual.

The advanced safety technology discount will apply to your Basic and some Optional coverages, as well as fleet and commercial non-fleet polices that meet the eligibility requirements.

Niyeaux 11-26-2019 01:02 PM

Just a heads up for anyone who's like me and kept their L for years out of laziness: the new discount calculation system will fuck you extremely hard. The old system counted your years of having an L as years of safe driving, the new system only counts from when you get your N. I lost like 6 years of safe driving history and thus lost my entire discount.

inv4zn 11-26-2019 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Acura604 (Post 8967517)
when i went to renew the RDX, the agent asked if it had 'autonomous braking'... the only thing i could think of was it has collision mitigation as described:

(would this be good enough for the additional discount?)


https://i.imgur.com/WX0xAg4.jpg




Autonomous emergency braking (AEB) is a safety feature that uses technology to anticipate when a vehicle is about to have a front-end collision and automatically engages the brakes without the driver’s action. Vehicles equipped with factory-installed autonomous emergency braking (AEB) will be eligible for a 10% discount as AEB has been statistically shown to help prevent crashes.

If you’re not sure whether your vehicle has AEB, check with your dealership or look in your ownership manual.

The advanced safety technology discount will apply to your Basic and some Optional coverages, as well as fleet and commercial non-fleet polices that meet the eligibility requirements.

Your quote isn't showing up, but if it has a radar in the front and is capable of applying brakes on its own, then yes. My previous Civic had Honda Sensing which did that, I assume Acura's version would be the same if not better.

inv4zn 11-26-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8966124)
^
It's only a problem if she does drive and then she crashes...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed2K (Post 8966174)
Simple, make sure she never drives it.

That's easy enough to do, but how does the 'unlisted driver protection' fall into this? If I keep her off, and then the one time out of the blue she drives and crashes, do I just pay the $50 unlisted driver or am I in for a world of hurt?

Harvey Specter 11-26-2019 01:52 PM

So my insurance is up on my Lambo in two days and ICBC has yet to get back to my agent for the 3rd party liability insurance for supercars. He called them, they said they're working on it but he doesn't understand the delay because usually they issue the quote 30 days prior to the insurance expiring. Hopefully they get back to my agent later today or tomorrow.

Eff-1 11-26-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Niyeaux (Post 8967699)
Just a heads up for anyone who's like me and kept their L for years out of laziness: the new discount calculation system will fuck you extremely hard. The old system counted your years of having an L as years of safe driving, the new system only counts from when you get your N. I lost like 6 years of safe driving history and thus lost my entire discount.

I don't have a problem with this at all. Having an L for six years shouldn't qualify you for the same discount as someone with six years of experience driving with their N or Class 5.

320icar 11-26-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 8967705)
That's easy enough to do, but how does the 'unlisted driver protection' fall into this? If I keep her off, and then the one time out of the blue she drives and crashes, do I just pay the $50 unlisted driver or am I in for a world of hurt?

Also backpay any savings you might have earned by not listing her, plus some other kind of fine

Niyeaux 11-26-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eff-1 (Post 8967708)
I don't have a problem with this at all. Having an L for six years shouldn't qualify you for the same discount as someone with six years of experience driving with their N or Class 5.

I mean if you're driving, you're driving. It's not like the class of license you have is determining how much actual driving experience you're getting. Some people with Ls drive all the time, some people have their class 5 and ride the bus every day. It's an arbitrary distinction.

Jmac 11-26-2019 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Niyeaux (Post 8967717)
I mean if you're driving, you're driving. It's not like the class of license you have is determining how much actual driving experience you're getting. Some people with Ls drive all the time, some people have their class 5 and ride the bus every day. It's an arbitrary distinction.

The person with the L who drives all the time is a substantially greater liability than the person who has a class 5 and rides the bus every day, all else being equal.

Jmac 11-26-2019 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 8967705)
That's easy enough to do, but how does the 'unlisted driver protection' fall into this? If I keep her off, and then the one time out of the blue she drives and crashes, do I just pay the $50 unlisted driver or am I in for a world of hurt?

It doesn't. Unlisted driver protection doesn't cover members of your household.

https://www.icbc.com/insurance/produ...rotection.aspx

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Exclusions to Unlisted Driver Protection
Even if you have opted for Unlisted Driver Protection, it will not protect you from the financial consequence if any of these people cause a crash in your car, as they should be listed on your policy:

Household members or employees (of the principal driver, registered owner, or lessee if the vehicle is leased)
Anyone who has driven any of your vehicles more than 12 days in the last year.
Unlicensed drivers, and those who have already caused a crash in one of your vehicles in the last five years (from September 1, 2019), are also excluded.

Find out more about listing drivers.

The Producer 11-26-2019 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niyeaux (Post 8967699)
Just a heads up for anyone who's like me and kept their L for years out of laziness: the new discount calculation system will fuck you extremely hard. The old system counted your years of having an L as years of safe driving, the new system only counts from when you get your N. I lost like 6 years of safe driving history and thus lost my entire discount.

https://i.imgur.com/DsfufGe.jpg

twitchyzero 11-26-2019 09:03 PM

6 years on Learners?

did you renew your license at some point?

it's like never taking off your training wheels (25yo+ supervision)

underscore 11-26-2019 09:17 PM

6 years with all the restrictions of an L? That sounds horrible unless you barely drive.

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8967719)
Household members or employees (of the principal driver, registered owner, or lessee if the vehicle is leased)

How do you go about adding someone? Do they need to come in with you or do you just need their license # and DOB or something?

Jmac 11-27-2019 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8967753)
6 years with all the restrictions of an L? That sounds horrible unless you barely drive.



How do you go about adding someone? Do they need to come in with you or do you just need their license # and DOB or something?

Driver’s license # I think was the only thing I needed from my fiancé when I renewed in September. It tells you on the renewal form.

hud 91gt 11-27-2019 06:24 AM

When I went in to BCAA to investigate pricing they said legally if the person lives in your house you “have” to list them. Secondly, you can choose to list them as a driver or not. I do believe the price increase comes with the second part.

yray 11-27-2019 08:17 AM

25% on the driver with the shittiest discount

or pay $5k penalty if the person that crashes your car isn't listed

inv4zn 11-27-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by yray (Post 8967776)
25% on the driver with the shittiest discount

or pay $5k penalty if the person that crashes your car isn't listed

Misleading, it's UP TO $5k.

Edison_Chen 11-27-2019 10:36 AM

^ thats just the basic component. 15x the difference if they were added or up to a maximum of 5k on the basic. It turns into a debt if unpaid. The optional coverages has something similar.

mikemhg 11-27-2019 01:30 PM

I'm still confused here on the unlisted driver change.

My girlfriend does not live with me. Occasionally she'll use my car (maybe once a month, if that).

If she drives my car next week and gets into an accident, what would happen? I don't renew until January, by the way.


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