PSA: VPD Handing Out VIs Like Candy

[GS8]

Originally Posted by Kev-o

'99 Prelude here with Notice and Order.
1. Aftermarket exhaust too loud (Skunk2). Installed silencer.
2. High beams not working. DRL module fixed.
3. Flashing brake lights . Bulbs switched back to 7443

I need help with the VI.
Stressing out bad here with no options.

How much is the VI? Is it based on the number of infractions and / or what they are specifically?

I'm just curious.

[GIZZ]

Originally Posted by Kev-o

'99 Prelude here with Notice and Order.
1. Aftermarket exhaust too loud (Skunk2). Installed silencer.
2. High beams not working. DRL module fixed.
3. Flashing brake lights . Bulbs switched back to 7443

I need help with the VI.
Stressing out bad here with no options.

Did you get it inspected yet?

By the book this is still a fail, it depends on how knowledgeable the inspector is. You aren't allowed to have muffler with any adjustable or removable parts.

[trollface]

Originally Posted by GIZZ

Did you get it inspected yet?

By the book this is still a fail, it depends on how knowledgeable the inspector is. You aren't allowed to have muffler with any adjustable or removable parts.

I didn't know this. What about those mustangs/m3's that come with the valved exhaust?

[GIZZ]

Muffler
7.03 (1)A motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine shall be equipped with an exhaust muffler consisting of a series of pipes or chambers which ensures that the exhaust gases from the engine are cooled and expelled without excessive noise.

Cut-outs prohibited
(2)No person shall drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine when the muffler with which the vehicle is equipped is cut out or disconnected from the engine.

Part removal prohibited
(3)No person shall drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine equipped with a muffler from which has been removed any baffle plate or other part.

Alteration prohibited
(4)No person shall drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine equipped with a muffler the exhaust outlet of which has been opened or widened.

[GIZZ]

I suppose if you permanently welded the silencer in it may pass, there is also the other section where it says the exh tip cannot be larger than the exh piping. It would fail there if the inspector picked up on it.

[320icar]

That can’t be true. My factory exhaust tips are wider than my factory piping

[Raid3n]

i think it means you can't make the exhaust exit bigger than the factory one, not that the exit has to be the same size as the pipe. there are lots of cars that come with flared tips

[ssjGoku69]

Originally Posted by GS8

How much is the VI? Is it based on the number of infractions and / or what they are specifically?

I'm just curious.

The fee for an inspection itself would probably range around $150, including tax depending which shop you go to.

The cost to fix the offending issue would be separate.

[E90M3]

Originally Posted by trollface

I didn't know this. What about those mustangs/m3's that come with the valved exhaust?

Technically the MPE is off-road only, and your SA should tell you that, but they really don't.

I dont have much knowledge on this subject regarding valves but that's what I've heard from my friend who works at a BMW dealership.

[Kev-o]

Hi, thanks for those who left responses.
I'll take all the help I can get but Im not expecting anything. I've kept the story telling and other details to a minimum because the bottom line is I need a car for deliveries. (temporary gig)

Inspection is past due and insurance expires in a month.
Officer said to take the car to Honda for inspection.

I'm still not certain if my car will pass the 'vehicle inspection'.
Areas of concern: Exhaust (Skunk2 muffler db), Downstream O2sensor works but like to sleep at high voltage (needs a wake up), Upstream O2sensor has always been fine., exhaust system is complete with Cat and Res.
Skunk2 coil over sleeves, w/original struts.

Also have a nagging engine tap quite certain it is the LMA.
Sigh..

Am I just paying someone to inspect/verify that my car is compliant?
If it fails, that's it?
I planned on getting new tires after summer but nothing ever works out for me. It just gets worse.

Just over a month ago I ended a 13 year smoking habbit.
This moment right now I have all the reasons to smoke but I'm not going to do that.

[dark0821]

^

I know this may sound like a horrible idea and may get blasted for it...

2 things (correct me if Im wrong)

1) since your Box 2 VI is already past due, if the cops see you... that is an instant box 1 + license plate comes off the car right there and then (even if somehow you get lucky... you wont be able to renew your insurance when it expires in a month or so)

2) you will be surprised how many people actually do help on RS (yes, you get some slack for asking a "dumb" question or just people judging in general, but even then.. I get PMs from people that genuinely helps), I hope someone that is an inspector OR very knowledgeable will just come see your car first.. maybe you can compensate with a 6-pack or smth? but they would be able to tell you if the car actually passes or not...

From your description... I would say.. it will fail on 2 points
- your (sometime) failed sensor causing a check engine light
- your tires are already at the wear bars

Good luck OP, I know it sucks, but just gotta put your head down and work thru it!

**Another unpopular idea would be to sell your car with an expired VI as is.. it just means the new owner "cant" insure it when they buy it... and whatever you can get for the car... use it to buy a cheap daily.. like a 1995 corolla (no joke, i drove a 96 failmatic corolla for over 3 years, but hey! it was transportation, cheap and reliable, better than bus and skytrain)

sorry this post went on waaayyyy longer than expected... go go go!

[Kev-o]

Originally Posted by dark0821

^

thx for the response. im just looking for more info on the inspection.

[68style]

You’re paying for a full provincial inspection basically... sounds like your car will fail and you’ll have to do it again.

Fail items would be check engine light / tires too worn out by the sounds of it.

Who knows about other stuff? Brakes? Leaks?

They’re pretty picky man... go in expecting that.

[kchan]

Originally Posted by Kev-o

thx for the response. im just looking for more info on the inspection.

PM me your tire size
I've reached out to a few of our track day shops and we will try see where we can help

[fliptuner]

5th Lude would be 205/55/16

[Kev-o]

Originally Posted by fliptuner

5th Lude would be 205/55/16

oem spec is actually 205 50 16

[kchan]

Originally Posted by Kev-o

oem spec is actually 205 50 16

PM me your personal contact
I might have something with more than enough tread for you to roll on and get Vi passed

I'm already working with 3 shops to see if there are other stuff us, RS, as a community can help

[Kev-o]

Originally Posted by 68style

You’re paying for a full provincial inspection basically... sounds like your car will fail and you’ll have to do it again.

Fail items would be check engine light / tires too worn out by the sounds of it.

Who knows about other stuff? Brakes? Leaks?

They’re pretty picky man... go in expecting that.

The CEL actually doesnt come on often. I hear the code (P0138-high/P0137-low) gets pushed through only when ecu receives 'x' number of cycles where it stayed at 1.3volts or 0volts. Either way I can wake it up by opening FT. The readings from this O2S is not used for A/F mixture. It really comes down to whether I want to risk taking the O2S out.

Do Inspectors plug anything into the ecu as part of their procedure?

Brakes are fine. (story telling another time) I installed full brake kit last winter. Calipers, rotors, pads shims pins sliders boots silicone lube and flushed and filled with Motul.
The rear pistons were ceased quite bad when I bought the car, I knew this would be the first big job. Can't be pushing 230kmh with heels draggin. ask the guy in the Camaro, he had the best view of my tail lights.

As for leaks, yeah it leaks. it was a lot worse before. I still have a couple more gaskets and rings to replace. primarily the oil ring sitting under the filter, and the two cam seals are looking wet last time I checked.

Here's a good story, a true story of my own. Looking under your car every other day goes a long way. I did that religiously for the first few months. guess what i found leaking? 19012-PD2-004 $5 O ring that seals the petcock ( drain valve on the rad) it was a very slow leak,maybe a drop or two overnight, easily missed but it does drop on pavement cuz there is no plastic under cover. Had that leak kept on leaking... anyways,

[Iron Chef]

Wash your engine and clean the oil leaks right before the inspection. Same as the cel, just clear the codes right before the inspection.

Replace the tires and put a stock exhaust back on and your good to go.

[Kev-o]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

Wash your engine and clean the oil leaks right before the inspection. Same as the cel, just clear the codes right before the inspection.

Replace the tires and put a stock exhaust back on and your good to go.

do aftermarket mufflers always fail inspection? or are is this more of a suggestion because its a hit or miss?

**I havent mentioned this yet, my R headlight and tail light had water leak in initially but has been fixed. Just wondering if these things will be leak tested or needs to be replaced
I've fixed the issue, headlight:clear silicone at lens/housing meet. unnoticed with hood down. lens not cracked. tail light: mounting stud on housing snapped which leaves that area subject to water leakin. fixed with tape, unnoticed when trunk down.

Anyone have suggestion on which Honda dealership I should go and speak to about this?

Is there anyone who has gone through VI? be great to see the inspection sheet. like is this car on hoist+emissions+td?

[Jas29]

Can't afford tires but is racing people at 200+ km/h

[kchan]

Originally Posted by Jas29

Can't afford tires but is racing people at 200+ km/h

This post has made it clear that this individual is more than capable of being responsible for his own actions.

Originally, RS and TSS made efforts over the weekend to help out the community, led by myself and Spugen. Our purpose was to reach out and help the community during this recent struggle with the ongoing battle with VI enforcement.

After seeing this post, we feel that this is a complete mockery of our efforts over the weekend.

We reached out to other local shops and individuals in the industry to try and make arrangements to help this guy out. We had done enough where this person's car would've been fixed and inspected completely pro-bono. Free. And the other option of a cash gift for him to buy a new beater for the time being, until he got back on his feet and had his car fixed properly.

This has now been stripped and we are no longer interested in offering the helping hand.

Revscene.net and TSS does not condone street racing. We promote our trackdays for a reason.

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by Jas29

Can't afford tires but is racing people at 200+ km/h

Source?

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[kchan]

Originally Posted by Kev-o

The CEL actually doesnt come on often. I hear the code (P0138-high/P0137-low) gets pushed through only when ecu receives 'x' number of cycles where it stayed at 1.3volts or 0volts. Either way I can wake it up by opening FT. The readings from this O2S is not used for A/F mixture. It really comes down to whether I want to risk taking the O2S out.

Do Inspectors plug anything into the ecu as part of their procedure?

Brakes are fine. (story telling another time) I installed full brake kit last winter. Calipers, rotors, pads shims pins sliders boots silicone lube and flushed and filled with Motul.
The rear pistons were ceased quite bad when I bought the car, I knew this would be the first big job. Can't be pushing 230kmh with heels draggin. ask the guy in the Camaro, he had the best view of my tail lights.

As for leaks, yeah it leaks. it was a lot worse before. I still have a couple more gaskets and rings to replace. primarily the oil ring sitting under the filter, and the two cam seals are looking wet last time I checked.

Here's a good story, a true story of my own. Looking under your car every other day goes a long way. I did that religiously for the first few months. guess what i found leaking? 19012-PD2-004 $5 O ring that seals the petcock ( drain valve on the rad) it was a very slow leak,maybe a drop or two overnight, easily missed but it does drop on pavement cuz there is no plastic under cover. Had that leak kept on leaking... anyways,

here

[bomberR17]

Man how big can someone screw up especially with so much help being given.