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Old 10-12-2018, 04:44 PM   #351
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So what? You now have a several thousand dollar piece of metal that cannot be inspected? This would not be a problem if WHOEVER STARTED THIS SHIT JUST MANS THE FUCK UP AND TAKES RESPONSIBILITY.
It can't be inspected according to the "order", but its slightly rediculous lol

Buddy has an appointment to go to the station and figure out what exactly they want him to do. Porsche has absolutely no plan on becoming a designated inspection facility.

Unlikely but:

Isn't this a conflict of interest? What if a police officer started issuing VI's to cars and ordering that they go to his "friends shop", or somewhere where he/she has a deal with them?

System seems kind of flawed?
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It can't be inspected according to the "order", but its slightly rediculous lol

Buddy has an appointment to go to the station and figure out what exactly they want him to do. Porsche has absolutely no plan on becoming a designated inspection facility.

Pics of said Porsche that got VI'd? Curious to know if this is another stock car that got VI'd like BadHobz (who's probably selling cause Vi'd )
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Pics of said Porsche that got VI'd? Curious to know if this is another stock car that got VI'd like BadHobz (who's probably selling cause Vi'd )
Will get, its a standard 997 Turbo, has a Techart exhaust and I think a ECU flash, nothing over the top.
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this has been discussed a lot in the past in the police forum.

here's a post by zulu that says:

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Equipment of motor vehicles
219 (1) A person must not drive or operate a motor vehicle or trailer on a highway or rent a motor vehicle or trailer unless it is equipped in all respects in compliance with this Act and the regulations.

(2) A peace officer

(a) may require a person who carries on the business of renting vehicles or who is the owner or person in charge of a vehicle

(i) to allow the peace officer to inspect a vehicle offered by the person for rental or owned by or in charge of the person, or

(ii) to move a vehicle described in subparagraph (i) to a place designated by the peace officer and to allow the vehicle to be inspected there by the peace officer, or, at the expense of the person required, to present the vehicle for inspection by a person authorized under section 217, and

(b) must remove any inspection certificate of approval affixed to the vehicle if, in the opinion of the peace officer or a person authorized under section 217, the vehicle is unsafe for use on a highway.
bold added to emphasize bits of importance.

they only time they can specify a location is if it's to go there immediately for they themselves to inspect (ie. that parking lot over there so i'm not sticking my ass into traffic trying to look at your suspension), and the alternative is for you to pay out of pocket for an authorized inspector to inspect the vehicle. doesn't say anything about specifying who that inspector HAS to be other than a person authorized under section 217
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Pics of said Porsche that got VI'd? Curious to know if this is another stock car that got VI'd like BadHobz (who's probably selling cause Vi'd )
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lol VI issued says:

"Must be inspected by Porsche dealer"

CVSE Area Inspector has now confirmed that you actually cannot take it anywhere, and its part of the order.

Best part, no Porsche dealer in BC can do VI's LOL..
When people get information like this. Do us a favour and get the name of the individual who tells you. That way there is some traceability...

Also let us know if you were told this information personally by that person or if you are just parroting third hand information.

So much misinformation floating around...
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https://www.cvse.ca/vehicle_inspecti...Phone_List.pdf

Spoke to him personally and he was the one who told me that by going to another shop, I'm violating the order. Feel free to give him a call and ask him, if you ask about the Porsche that can't be inspected I'm sure he will remember me.

Third party parroting info: I was told by a friend TSS called and asked about this "must be inspected by dealer", and was told the same thing by the Area Inspector.

All shops who are licensed by CVSE should be annoyed by this, as everyone technically is supposed to uphold the same standard, but business is being directed by police order.

tbh inspecting at another shop will probably get you passed and in the clear, but if the same cop stops you, expect to receive a box 1 next time if he remembers you.
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this has been discussed a lot in the past in the police forum.

here's a post by zulu that says:



bold added to emphasize bits of importance.

they only time they can specify a location is if it's to go there immediately for they themselves to inspect (ie. that parking lot over there so i'm not sticking my ass into traffic trying to look at your suspension), and the alternative is for you to pay out of pocket for an authorized inspector to inspect the vehicle. doesn't say anything about specifying who that inspector HAS to be other than a person authorized under section 217

So I got fairly excited when I first read this and saw your interpretation of this. Then when you look into the MVA further you find this....... CVSE emailed me exactly this:

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In British Columbia, Notice and Orders - Box 2 require a complete mechanical inspection at a Designated Inspection Facility.

Motor Vehicle Act Regulations Division 7.08 – Inspection of motor vehicles, stated below, is the applicable regulatory reference regarding your inquiry.

Inspection of motor vehicles
7.08 The owner or the person in charge of a motor vehicle or trailer operated, or about to be operated, on any highway shall, upon the request of any peace officer, forthwith take the motor vehicle or trailer to the place designated by the peace officer and submit the motor vehicle or trailer there for inspection and testing.
[am. B.C. Reg. 246/83, s. 1.]

Where there be concerns regarding enforcement action taken by a particular agency, questions regarding said actions or the noted regulation should directed to the local agency.
So if the officer designates the dealer, and submitting it there?

Frustrating, and I thought for years you could go anywhere
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So I got fairly excited when I first read this and saw your interpretation of this. Then when you look into the MVA further you find this....... CVSE emailed me exactly this:



So if the officer designates the dealer, and submitting it there?

Frustrating, and I thought for years you could go anywhere
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This archived regulation consolidation is current to December 9, 2005 and includes changes enacted and in force by that date. For the most current information, click here.
i'm going to see if i can find something newer

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and it's the same in the newest.. hmm.. that is sort of concerning if two items contradict each other...

this smacks of conflict of interest. as was suggested in the thread i linked, this could leave an opening for an officer to be getting kickbacks from a shop for specifying them for all the officer's VI's
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So what's the Porsche owner gonna do if Porsche doesn't do vi?

And I was rolling around today and saw this epic scene

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I decided my weekly YouTube video was going to be on the topic. I wasn't irritated at all about getting my VI until I read this thread. Thanks for bringing this up. I've disabled monetization in this video.

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Fernando Grossling
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https://www.cvse.ca/vehicle_inspecti...Phone_List.pdf

Spoke to him personally and he was the one who told me that by going to another shop, I'm violating the order. Feel free to give him a call and ask him, if you ask about the Porsche that can't be inspected I'm sure he will remember me.

Third party parroting info: I was told by a friend TSS called and asked about this "must be inspected by dealer", and was told the same thing by the Area Inspector.

All shops who are licensed by CVSE should be annoyed by this, as everyone technically is supposed to uphold the same standard, but business is being directed by police order.

tbh inspecting at another shop will probably get you passed and in the clear, but if the same cop stops you, expect to receive a box 1 next time if he remembers you.
That's dope man, props to you for actually taking some time and getting some useful info.

I see a major conflict of interest in this, a cop can easily write a million of these VI's, and direct them all to go through his friends shop. Sounds like complete bullshit. Especially when generally there is no recourse for the vehicle owner to deal with this besides going and getting it inspected.

I'm going to skip over to an industry where i have more experience and draw contrasts. When Technical Safety BC requires inspections on boilers, or welded piping, they have absolutely ZERO right to mandate who the inspector is (as long as the inspector is qualified), and by that same strategy should that inspector find an issue he has no right to mandate who does the repairs to the system (as long as the person doing to repairs is qualified).

So I'm curious legally speaking how this situation with police the government can justify being any different.

If so what's next the government hops in bed with an inspection agency and and every construction company from here to Nova Scotia has to pony up to their bullshit?

We're fucking headed down one hell of a corruption filled rabbit hole.
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I decided my weekly YouTube video was going to be on the topic. I wasn't irritated at all about getting my VI until I read this thread. Thanks for bringing this up. I've disabled monetization in this video.

https://youtu.be/-eSQhNsAxtg
Well said, but the parties involved here will probably not see this, or will even mock it because more e-fame points, or just not give a damn at all. To some of these people, their clout or influence on social media gives them perceived insulation from recognizing fault, see Logan Paul until he was hammered hard enough to notice.

Something like this didn't have to be posted, but here we are.
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Is there anything you can do if you got VI'd in like a 100% stock car? Like let's say you rolled into the road block in 1st gear at like 35km in a stock s2000
I didn't get VI'ed, but I got a ticket for having front window tint. The officer didn't realize that all cars come with slight UV tint on the front already.

I called him up a few days later, and explained to him and also had a letter from Mazda stating the windows are factory and are legal.

He agreed to meet with me and his supervisor. The supervisor looked at it and gave him a lesson on how to detect after market tint properly and had my ticket canceled.

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So it means these untrained officers are just handing out tickets and VI for fun
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Thankfully Richmond rcmp still seem pretty chill. Got a friendly wave earlier today coming back from point Roberts.
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Stay out of Vancouver until this guy is transferred into something more important than traffic. Which is unlikely. Because he’s in traffic and seems to enjoy it.
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We used to say around my old office... and this applies to any Constable or any traffic guy... if you're either a Cst or a traffic guy and you're 40+ it means you were too dumb to do anything else or had too many employment issues to advance anywhere and you probably would have been fired for disciplinary issues already if the unions weren't so strong.

Of course there's the odd guy/girl here and there that for some reason enjoys traffic and actually thinks he/she is making a difference handing out speeding tickets to the sacrificial lambs that get picked off in traffic every day, but I'm going to guess this particular VPD officer is not in that minority.
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Thankfully Richmond rcmp still seem pretty chill. Got a friendly wave earlier today coming back from point Roberts.
RCMP in general. Surrey and Langley I've had no issues with at all, and I need to raise my rear coilovers a bit.
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Is there anything you can do if you got VI'd in like a 100% stock car? Like let's say you rolled into the road block in 1st gear at like 35km in a stock s2000

Dw a bright coloured stock s2k almost got VI'd but didn't. Stock exhaust, lowered, wheels sit flush if you look at it from the side, wheels poke if you look at it from the front.



Motocop turned on his lights, did a U turn, stared at the wheel for 10sec, did another U-turn and rode away.

I can't wait until it's too cold for them to ride LOL.
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Dw a bright coloured stock s2k almost got VI'd but didn't. Stock exhaust, lowered, wheels sit flush if you look at it from the side, wheels poke if you look at it from the front.



Motocop turned on his lights, did a U turn, stared at the wheel for 10sec, did another U-turn and rode away.

I can't wait until it's too cold for them to ride LOL.
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