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Anyone aware of any domestics V8 cars getting VIs?
My previous Charger R/T with the standard dual mode OEM exhaust (any V8 model 2017+ has this) is probably much louder than most 4/6 cyl cars with an exhaust.
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Although a lot of heat is going toward "VPD" as a whole... from what limited sources we have from people with friends in the VPD, it sounds like majority of them aren't on board with this whole VI movement.
So while putting some pressure on the VPD is great, hopefully the next step is to shine the spotlight specifically on the two (or three?) officers who seem to be spearheading this whole thing. They're making the rest of VPD look like a joke.
SGT. Roed's response in the video was very typical and I wouldn't expect him to call out his own in public. But hopefully this is a good starting point anyhow.
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SGT. Roed's response in the video was very typical and I wouldn't expect him to call out his own in public. But hopefully this is a good starting point anyhow.
What needs to happen is there needs to be a system in place that somehow punishes the officer for VI'ing cars that pass inspection and have no sign of modification. Right now they'll hand out a VI/Ticket and forget about it 2 minutes later, onto the next one. What if they're told "No, that car was stock and passed inspection - learn from it and stop giving out wrong tickets"?
Glad to see more exposure and a big thank you to those who stepped up, including people contributing in the background.
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VI the skytrain please.
All jokes aside, public transit that is used by many who cannot afford p/m cars is probably not the absolute best example to generate the reaction we want from the general public with.
VPD should lend out one of their motorcycles for comparison.
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SGT. Roed's response in the video was very typical and I wouldn't expect him to call out his own in public. But hopefully this is a good starting point anyhow.
Would have been nice to confront him with the VI statistics after his statement.
Any supervisor(s) allowing this to continue should be held accountable as well.
What needs to happen is there needs to be a system in place that somehow punishes the officer for VI'ing cars that pass inspection and have no sign of modification. Right now they'll hand out a VI/Ticket and forget about it 2 minutes later, onto the next one. What if they're told "No, that car was stock and passed inspection - learn from it and stop giving out wrong tickets"?
highly doubt officers will be punished for repeated errors unless it's a serious crime like sexual misconduct or defrauding
especially if their media spokespersons defended them twice
Good video, hopefully with enough media pressure, the head of their VPD traffic unit will become annoyed at all the media spotlight and public interviews and tell these traffic cops to focus on more credible MVA violations.
VPD will never be able to justify why the DB sound level of these two officers is significantly tested higher than a qualified trained technician, not even remotely close at all in the numbers. Also unable to justify why the past year VI have gone up significantly compared to prior years. This MVA and safety thing is absolute bullshit because as some of you guys mentioned, there are supercars out there bone stock not getting VI-ed, those loud too (the team out at Driven Project). Plus VPD in other jurisdictions makes no sense unless you are attending a case/chasing a suspect into those areas, why are they handing violations in RCMP territory? Just gotta keep pushing this with media.
Glad to see Jeremy Schaab, Jeremy Schaab, GM Porsche Vancouver, interviewed, too - but we just heard from him that there was one important point he made that didn’t make the interview, educating sports car owners on their rights when stopped on the roadside. Here it is:
"I understand that some officers put their dB Meter right against or inside the tailpipe. This is not accurate and generates a dB rating 20% higher than the law. Officers must place their dB meter 3M behind at a 45 deg angle from the tailpipe and the engine is to be revved to 3500rpm."
I’m so glad to see the news covering this and Jer as a GM standing up for us too!
Wish they touched on a little more, but at least it’s a start
Now if only they could touch on the vindictive nature from Constable Cain and his vendetta against car enthusiasts, or the fact a STOCK press car belonging to a luxury manufacturer’s fleet was deemed too loud and given a vi + excessive noise ticket
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I mean, it could make sense. It’s how the noise affects bystanders as the reason for the rule. If you’re less than 3m from a cars exhaust at 3000 rpm, what are you doing there?
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Now if only they could touch on the vindictive nature from Constable Cain and his vendetta against car enthusiasts, or the fact a STOCK press car belonging to a luxury manufacturer’s fleet was deemed too loud and given a vi + excessive noise ticket
If the media does get Cain to talk (which I highly doubt) he's going to have a sob story about how he feels threatened and harassed because he was just doing his job.... And sadly, I think a lot of people will side with him rather than the car community.
Lol. Cutting out the middleman. Just go straight to the dealerships and Issue the VI there. Better give them a no front plate, and no insurance ticket while your at it.
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when I got my VI i called CVSE to talk about the enforcement issues, and in our discussion it was mentioned that they were going to do this to hopefully show them how loud some of these cars are from the factory.
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