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Old 02-03-2021, 08:59 AM   #4751
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How the hell is that even legal? Driveway is private property, whose to say the owner parked it and was going to fix the VI issues the next day?
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I saw Cain pull over another white FRS the other day on Kingsway/Fraser. Looked like it had an exhaust but it wasn't very loud, quieter than some BMW M Performance exhausts.

I WAnder what's the story with this most recent one? Do the police have jurisdiction to issue VI's to cars parked on private property that aren't even being driven?
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I saw Cain pull over another white FRS the other day on Kingsway/Fraser. Looked like it had an exhaust but it wasn't very loud, quieter than some BMW M Performance exhausts.

I WAnder what's the story with this most recent one? Do the police have jurisdiction to issue VI's to cars parked on private property that aren't even being driven?
The story on FB is that the neighbour made a noise complaint on this car.
Owner was woken up at 7 am by his dad saying the PoPo was there looking for him.
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^Neighbours narc'd him out. Police were attending a noise compliant, and have right to enter premise to attend the situation. Although I don't know if I agree or disagree the car owner had to be obligated to start his car in private premise.
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^ exactly, noise complaints can be filed and the ticket that was given was for non-compliant. The box 1 was issues for aftermarket exhaust and clear sidemarkers (Which we know is illegal).

Let's look at some facts here, his exhaust setup consists of Catless UEL headers, Invidia overpipe, Invidia catless frontpipe, Invidia R400 catback.

That has got to be pretty loud, and living next to that wouldn't be the most fun. Now we don't know when he goes out/home so let's not comment on that but having a loud neighbour in the middle of the day still sucks.

Edit: if you read the thread on FB, dad answered the door and called his son (owner of the vehicle) by this description he was let in.
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Just reading that exhaust setup hurts my ears.
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i mean on one hand i get it... he got the book thrown at him since he re-modified his car after the initial box 2

but then again.....
That’s BS.

What if you just swapped on your exhaust there to showcase to your friends, and you want to uninstall it later? As farfetched as that sounds, if there’s no hard evidence, don’t think a VI is valid

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maybe i was going to just park it ... isnt it my freedom to just plate it but not drive it

can't ticket for future offense

i think its one thing to stake out at his house and pull him over the moment he pulls out.... ita another to knock on his door and perform the said above on his private driveway

im no lawyer... but i dont think thats how innocent until proven guilty works....
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I understand that there was an open noise complaint, but I agree with the sentiment of the reasonable doubt that the offending components may be coming off. It sets a bit of a dangerous precedent that VPD can now go all Minority Report on cars on private property.
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Don't these assholes have better things to do like patrol Strathcona park for all the illegal activities there? Redirect VPD resources to more important issues than fucking loud exhaust ffs.
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i think its one thing to stake out at his house and pull him over the moment he pulls out.... ita another to knock on his door and perform the said above on his private driveway

im no lawyer... but i dont think thats how innocent until proven guilty works....
When someone has called in a noise complaint that's a bit different though. Especially during COVID when people aren't driving much it seems massively inefficient to have someone sit there waiting for the guy for days or weeks when you can just go knock on the door and ask his dad.
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Nope, they would need a warrant to go into your place. But if you let them in without one, then they have the power.

Just like roadside checks. technically they can't search your car for drugs without a warrant unless they have probable cause. No fishing expeditions.
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Nope, they would need a warrant to go into your place. But if you let them in without one, then they have the power.

Just like roadside checks. technically they can't search your car for drugs without a warrant unless they have probable cause. No fishing expeditions.
I've been through some road checks before and they always stick their head right up and sometimes in the window to take a quick sniff.
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I've been through some road checks before and they always stick their head right up and sometimes in the window to take a quick sniff.
Yup, if they can smell it then that supposedly gives them the power to search your car or do road side screening to make sure you are not under the influence.
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This is honestly sad. I understand his exhaust may be extremely loud just by seeing the mods but as far as knocking on his door to respond to the noise complaint at 7am, entering his house and issuing him a ticket, when he was not driving the car that day... It seems this reporting system can just be abused...

Like maybe I can start blindly reporting that undriven 68 Charger that lives a block away from me for noise... Maybe they'll get annoyed enough and finally sell me the car lol.
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Don't these assholes have better things to do like patrol Strathcona park for all the illegal activities there? Redirect VPD resources to more important issues than fucking loud exhaust ffs.
Normally I'd be like "traffic cops gotta traffic" but seriously. The amount of people I see on cell phones every single day, the amount of drunk drivers I see coming home from work on weekends, the people weaving in and out of traffic, passing dead stopped traffic at 80km/h in the bus lane during rush hour on Georgia, etc. What the fuck is this city that is apparently eleventy trillion dollars over budget "cause of Covid" doing with their fucking police budget if this is the way they are spending it.
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This is honestly sad. I understand his exhaust may be extremely loud just by seeing the mods but as far as knocking on his door to respond to the noise complaint at 7am, entering his house and issuing him a ticket, when he was not driving the car that day... It seems this reporting system can just be abused...

Like maybe I can start blindly reporting that undriven 68 Charger that lives a block away from me for noise... Maybe they'll get annoyed enough and finally sell me the car lol.
Exactly, the issue isnt if the FRS deserves a VI... I think we all know the answer to that... a catless invidia exhaust all the way from the headers down... yea.. I think we all know how loud that is...invidia is totally the brand that is known for quiet exhausts, am i right?

The issue is... this sets a rather slippery slope of the precedence where...

VPD doesnt have to catch you in the act, dont have to prove anything with hard evidence. And don't have to wait until you are on a public road apparantly...

All they need is a complaint, and there... charged and guilty.

Like Prelude said above ^, the system can totally be abused if there arn't any checks and balances, does the VPD even go to the neighbor first and see if there are any substaintial proof?

WHAT IF... and I am saying... WHAT IF there is a car very much that looks like your neighbor's car (but it isn't) that lives half a block down from you. You get woken up everyday and you look out the window and be like.. FUCK NEIGHBOR A and his car, I am gonna call the cops and fucking get his car off the road. When in fact it was neighbor B that lives 10 houses down from you is the car that you are after. (Yes, chances are slim, but you know what else? The average guy that cant tell a white civic, from a white corolla, from a white elantra while standing by their window in their house)

The cops shows up at neighbor A's door, says we have a complaint that your car is not compliant, here is your ticket and VI, doesnt matter if your car is not the same car. We have a description here saying it is your car driving on this road yesterday at this time, and your car was nosiy af.

No, you dont have to start your car now.

No, we wont need to do a decible test.

You are now being given a VI with no recourse. It is now your responsibility to pay out of your pocket to prove your car is compliant.

Have a nice day.



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Exactly, the issue isnt if the FRS deserves a VI... I think we all know the answer to that... a catless invidia exhaust all the way from the headers down... yea.. I think we all know how loud that is...invidia is totally the brand that is known for quiet exhausts, am i right?

The issue is... this sets a rather slippery slope of the precedence where...

VPD doesnt have to catch you in the act, dont have to prove anything with hard evidence. And don't have to wait until you are on a public road apparantly...

All they need is a complaint, and there... charged and guilty.

Like Prelude said above ^, the system can totally be abused if there arn't any checks and balances, does the VPD even go to the neighbor first and see if there are any substaintial proof?

WHAT IF... and I am saying... WHAT IF there is a car very much that looks like your neighbor's car (but it isn't) that lives half a block down from you. You get woken up everyday and you look out the window and be like.. FUCK NEIGHBOR A and his car, I am gonna call the cops and fucking get his car off the road. When in fact it was neighbor B that lives 10 houses down from you is the car that you are after. (Yes, chances are slim, but you know what else? The average guy that cant tell a white civic, from a white corolla, from a white elantra while standing by their window in their house)

The cops shows up at neighbor A's door, says we have a complaint that your car is not compliant, here is your ticket and VI, doesnt matter if your car is not the same car. We have a description here saying it is your car driving on this road yesterday at this time, and your car was nosiy af.

No, you dont have to start your car now.

No, we wont need to do a decible test.

You are now being given a VI with no recourse. It is now your responsibility to pay out of your pocket to prove your car is compliant.

Have a nice day.



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So, you're all assuming the kid who still lives with daddy but spent all his (or daddys) money on making his car louder for..literally no reason other than to make it louder to make sure people look at him...isn't lying or exaggerating?

And you admit "we all know how loud that car is" but are still crying "cops don't know how loud that car is"?

This went from "don't VI stock cars" to "well maybe the guy installed the invidia exhaust that actually makes it quieter than stock and we should do a db test"? I guess it didn't occur to you that they might've seen the mods, or the neighbors have their own evidence, or the idiot kid even admitted all his mods?

Nah lets believe that he's 100% innocent cause I read it on the internet and it fits my narrative.
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^^ I don’t think anyone is having sympathy for the FRS kid. The point is the potential abuse of power with no recourse.

What if the cop picks on you and issues VI every month because you or your car rubs him the wrong way?
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There are just so many unknown factors here. If a police officer ran the history of the driver/vehicle, will it come up with noise complaints, poor driving, impaired driving, collisions, drug trafficking, etc. Officers are more likely to be aggressive on people that probably should not be on the road or are repeat offenders. Has the driver previously been warned, given boxes, tickets, but still chose to ignore it. Is the vehicle that unbearable, police are genuinely receiving many complaints?

I get that sometimes good drivers aren't lucky enough to get a break, but you always have bad drivers with rep sheets screaming they are the victim and police are the bad guys.
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So, you're all assuming the kid who still lives with daddy but spent all his (or daddys) money on making his car louder for..literally no reason other than to make it louder to make sure people look at him...isn't lying or exaggerating?

And you admit "we all know how loud that car is" but are still crying "cops don't know how loud that car is"?

This went from "don't VI stock cars" to "well maybe the guy installed the invidia exhaust that actually makes it quieter than stock and we should do a db test"? I guess it didn't occur to you that they might've seen the mods, or the neighbors have their own evidence, or the idiot kid even admitted all his mods?

Nah lets believe that he's 100% innocent cause I read it on the internet and it fits my narrative.
I assume you are trolling here, but what the heck, I will entertain you lol.

No one has a problem with his FRS getting a VI, a catless exahust is illegal in BC, clear markers are illegal in BC, so a VI is warranted 100% of the time.

This is exactly why I didnt name any names in general, I am addressing VPD as a whole.

Like I mentioned in my original post and my subsequent post. It is one thing to pull over the individual when his car reaches the public road. It is something very different issuing it on a private premise.

My examples are extreme and far fetched, but not illegal.

The scenario of modifying your car on your premise just to impress your friends or purely for your own amusement, and de-modifying it before you hit the road again to be road compliant is 100% legal.

Based on the description, our assumption is that the FRS is loud af, but that's just it. It is our assumption, our assumption dont hold any consequences. But assumptions by the VPD or any public servant do have direct consequences.

Do you want the police to charge you with murder based on assumption because your neighbor saw you with a gun after he heard gun shots? Or do you want them to charge you because they found bullet casing that are matched to your gun beside the victim?

We are not here to argue if the FRS VI is valid. We are here to argue

1) if VPD should start to take action based on assumptions, and not based on hard evidence and facts.

2) If VPD issueing traffic violations on private premise is a good idea. "Traffic Violation" by definition should be targeting cars/users that are in traffic, ie public BC roadways. Hence why you dont see speeding tickets given out on track days. Because it is on a private race track, and not a road way.

In conclusion, I wouldnt have a problem if
1) The VPD waited for the owner to start the car and pull him over once he is on public road way

2) The VPD used a decible meter to test his car (even using the wrong method, but that is another topic).

At least in the above scenario, the VPD will be taking action based on evidence (even if the collection method of the evidence is wrong), and reinforcing traffic violations on public roads, where the space is shared with other road users (ie. in traffic).

And not by a "report" they heard from a neighbor who may NOT be an expert, and just take it as 100% true without any investigation on their end. Kicking the ball to the alleged violator to spend their time/resource/money to prove their innocence.
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