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Old 01-27-2023, 10:27 AM   #5526
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If people were to do something like this during their tenure and be found guilty, they sure as fuck should have at the very minimum no longer be eligible for pension and benefits.
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Old 01-27-2023, 02:55 PM   #5527
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Just keep in mind an inquest is not to assign guilt, or hand down punishments. It's to establish the truth, and try to find ways to avoid the death from happening again.
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Old 01-27-2023, 03:18 PM   #5528
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I genuinely don't know, but can information from an inquest lead to charges? Or is just like, oh we found out you sexually assaulted someone and blackmailed them, but we decided before not to investigate so oops that's our bad.
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guess we'll find out soon with the inquest

feel like if Cain was in ERT it would be public knowledge by now
The article doesn't really say he was in the ERT, but that she met with him for advice applying for it. Maybe he was just more senior and was a "mentor"
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Just keep in mind an inquest is not to assign guilt, or hand down punishments. It's to establish the truth, and try to find ways to avoid the death from happening again.
sounds too canadian and not in a good way
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Holy shit. If it turns out to be actually him, it would be like dropping a nuke into a dumpster fire. Imagine the disciplinary fallout if things get corroborated.
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Old 01-29-2023, 07:28 AM   #5532
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The chief will give him a kiss on the forehead and give him the key to the city.
VPD doesn't exactly have a great track record with things like this.
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The chief will give him a kiss on the forehead and give him the key to the city.
VPD doesn't exactly have a great track record with things like this.
Didn't he already get that when he killed Myles Gray?
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Found out from an internal source that this is the Derek Cain we all hate.
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I can't say I'm surprised. The weird part is, 99% of the media stories do not mention him.
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doesn't cain have wife and kids too lol
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This could be why he's on traffic duty. And why he hates you and everyone else in this city.
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I can't say I'm surprised. The weird part is, 99% of the media stories do not mention him.
I hope he gets outed in media so google can have a record. Hopefully he is also named in the lawsuit.
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I hope he gets outed in media so google can have a record. Hopefully he is also named in the lawsuit.
Getting the spelling corrected in the articles would help
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This could be why he's on traffic duty. And why he hates you and everyone else in this city.
Cuz he's a dirty pig and got caught red handed...?

What a baby
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he seems pretty young for someone that's retired...then again, the calendar had the sedin twins so who knows how many years ago this was...

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He's not retired.
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he seems pretty young for someone that's retired...then again, the calendar had the sedin twins so who knows how many years ago this was...

squire's a vampire so he's looked the same for the past 100 years
You are thinking Christensen
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Yay for freedom of speech. I don't think we can do this in HK anymore.

Let me vent out here.

DEREK CAIN IS A SCUMBAG AND DIRTY PIG
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Yay for freedom of speech. I don't think we can do this in HK anymore.

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DEREK CAIN IS A SCUMBAG AND DIRTY PIG
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Too bad i don't think Google posts RS results anymore?

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2022 VPD VI Statistics

I have recently received the 2022 VI statistics from the VPD via an FOI request, and I am somewhat glad to report to the local automotive community that the most recent VI numbers are at the lowest they have ever been since we started collecting this information in 2018.

On an annual basis, the VI numbers are as follows:

2018 – 758 VI’s issued
2019 – 1544 VI’s issued
2020 – 932 VI’s issued
2021 – 1038 VI’s issued
2022 – 508 VI’s issued



It should be noted that while the overall 2022 numbers are at an all time low since 2018 when the crackdown first started, I do not interpret this to mean the VPD is being passive or shy on issuing VI’s. In fact, if I were to look at the numbers on a monthly basis, prior to the start of the crackdown from Jan – Aug 2018, the monthly VI figure ranges from 15 – 55 N&O’s per month, with the average and median being 34.125 and 31.5, respectively. But for the 2022 year, while the monthly figures range from 13 – 60, making it look kind of similar to the range before the crackdown, the average and median number of N&O’s being issued jump to 42.3 and 44, respectively. Statistically speaking, this means an average month in 2022 has 8 – 12.5 more VI’s being issued than the old normal in 2018 before the crackdown started. In order words, the VPD was still issuing quite a few more VI’s in 2022 than they did back in 2018 before the crackdown started. The only difference is, it seems like they have not been actively doing any crazy VI blitz(es?).

IMO, the reduced VI numbers are the results of a wide combination of factors – from the community’s collective efforts over the past few years to highlight the flaws with the VPD VI practices, to our well-researched and well-presented complaints to the OPCC; from the larger general municipal and political climate that the VPD faces (eg. DTES issues, funding issues, various VPD scandals, etc.), to personnel changes in the Traffic Section – all of these issues shifted the focus away from pursuing active crackdowns. But because of everything that has transpired, the VPD has also developed a better understanding of how the VI game can be played, and how they can still hit us in a manner where we cannot defend or fight back against.

Personally, I continue to think that flying under the radar is the best strategy against VI’s. This does not mean we are not allowed to pursue our hobbies and modify our cars. The MVA and CVSE manual defined a framework where there is still room for us to play in.

Stay safe and VI-free out there.


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thanks for compiling the info!

what's the latest allowable sound limit on public roads for passenger cars? i only see light duty and motorcycles on the mva
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what's the latest allowable sound limit on public roads for passenger cars? i only see light duty and motorcycles on the mva
Doesn't common passenger cars fall into the "light duty" category? (ie. 83 dB)
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Is there info on that excessive noise ticket that can be fought? I felt like a lot of the complaints in the last 2 years were actually of VPD handing out the excessive noise ticket since VIs have been contested so much with the OPCC.
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