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coneZONE 10-19-2018 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UnknownJinX (Post 8924509)
Second this.

I use the Series 1 RX-8 18" stock wheels for winters and Series 2 18" stock wheels for summers.

Third that haha.
For winters, i use same gen EK 14" steelies with OEM Honda wheel covers. Can't get more oe than that. Normally i run SiR rims.
Possible to get pulled for Honda wheels on an Acura? Lol



Alsp wtf is this bullshit about Westopher's DRLs being dim? Like a huge majority of cars run high beams on half bright to serve as DRLs.

E30_lulz 10-19-2018 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coneZONE (Post 8924522)
Possible to get pulled for Honda wheels on an Acura?

People aren't getting it: if they think you're part of the "car scene", and you catch their attention, they're stopping you and will come up with a reason to VI you.

Stay. Out. Of. Vancouver. Until. They. Get. Bored.

Akinari 10-19-2018 11:21 PM

I remember getting pulled over and told to drive into the Lansdowne parking lot by Richmond RCMP while idling on No.3 Rd a few years back in my now-totaled Element.

Muffler baffle broke so I decided to be a smartass and run 2.5" straight pipe all the way back from a catless 4-2-1 header until my new muffler arrived. Thing was deafening, needed earplugs to drive it.

Was given a warning, told that Elements should not be this loud, and to fix my muffler and went on my way. Car was also lowered with obvious camber and tons of stickers.

My how times have changed...

Although perhaps this VI fest is only limited to non-RCMP?

J-Chow 10-20-2018 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Akinari (Post 8924525)
I remember getting pulled over and told to drive into the Lansdowne parking lot by Richmond RCMP while idling on No.3 Rd a few years back in my now-totaled Element.

Muffler baffle broke so I decided to be a smartass and run 2.5" straight pipe all the way back from a catless 4-2-1 header until my new muffler arrived. Thing was deafening, needed earplugs to drive it.

Was given a warning, told that Elements should not be this loud, and to fix my muffler and went on my way. Car was also lowered with obvious camber and tons of stickers.

My how times have changed...

Although perhaps this VI fest is only limited to non-RCMP?

I have my sources, at RCMP, and I did ask, what was happening with VI's in lower mainland, and was told, from their higher ups, each officer on shift was recommended/required to issue 1 VT and 1 VI EACH day, as part of their "quota"

(I don't know what a VT is, never really asked), but lets just say, they were hesitant in following those recommendations.

God bless the federal budget :lawl: :pokerface: :alone:

swfk 10-20-2018 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Chow (Post 8924534)
I have my sources, at RCMP, and I did ask, what was happening with VI's in lower mainland, and was told, from their higher ups, each officer on shift was recommended/required to issue 1 VT and 1 VI EACH day, as part of their "quota"

(I don't know what a VT is, never really asked), but lets just say, they were hesitant in following those recommendations.

God bless the federal budget :lawl: :pokerface: :alone:

"Violation Ticket"

68style 10-20-2018 06:25 AM

^ Except that the federal budget sees exactly $0 out of any VI being issued? We been through that already, which is why this whole thing is just a harassment and vengeance oriented operation, nobody but dealerships are making any money off this.

J-Chow 10-20-2018 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8924537)
^ Except that the federal budget sees exactly $0 out of any VI being issued? We been through that already, which is why this whole thing is just a harassment and vengeance oriented operation, nobody but dealerships are making any money off this.

Sorry, what I actually meant, was because RCMP is on federal budget, there is lack of staffing and funding, hence, some officers are very hesitant to issue VT and VI's, when there are other high priorities on their everyday to do list. :pokerface:

nexusxv 10-20-2018 08:24 AM

If quota thing is true, everything is way worth. Now RCMP woud be a money grabbing mashine. This is where we should involve media. This is the only protection left.

Are police handing out traffic tickets to meet quotas

Montreal abolishes traffic and parking ticket quotas for police

FatalCloud 10-20-2018 08:43 AM

I only visit vancouver becuz my parents live there, cop looked at my car this morning, only reason he didnt pull me over i think was he was going the other way. This is stressful.

gilly 10-20-2018 08:44 AM

One of my best friends is a RCMP officer and he said there isn't a quota to meet.

SolidPenguin 10-20-2018 10:27 AM

There is no quota. The 1 VT and 1 VI per shift J-Chow said is a recommendation for Richmond detachment. Every detachment does things differently.

The only people that has a "quota" are the traffic unit, where it is expected they issue a number of VT's per shift (Which makes sense, because being traffic unit, its kind of what theyre supposed to do).
But again, not a quota and they dont get reprimanded if they dont meet it.

Eff-1 10-20-2018 01:25 PM

I am not sure if it was posted earlier but our old friend skidmark has the following advice on his blog if you are issued one of these BS notices.

https://www.drivesmartbc.ca/enforcem...rder-questions

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A VI cannot be disputed like a ticket, however, if it is not justified you may be able to have it withdrawn.

1) When it is issued, politely question the officer and ask for the items that triggered the order. If you know that they are lawful mods, point it out, and explain why you know it is legal. Ask them to reconsider issuing the VI.

2) If #1 doesn't work, go on with your day and do some research to make sure the mods mentioned are legal. Call the Detachment/Department the issuing officer works at and try to make an appointment to discuss a reconsideration with the officer.

3) If #2 doesn't work or the officer does not want to discuss it with you, contact the same Detachment/Department in a second phonecall and make an appointment to discuss the VI with the issuing officer's supervisor.

4) If #3 doesn't work at this point you are pretty much stuck with the VI unless you want to try one last appeal to the head of the Detachment/Department. Chances are that they will go with the supervisor's decision unless you can convince them otherwise.

5) If you go through with the VI and the facility finds no defects, you can consider a complaint to the RCMP Public Complaints Commission or the BC Police Complaints Commission depending if it was an RCMP officer or a city police officer that issued the VI.

6) You could consider trying to recover the cost of the VI, but at this point I suspect that you would need legal counsel for advice.

!Kodamu 10-20-2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Eff-1 (Post 8924575)
I am not sure if it was posted earlier but our old friend skidmark has the following advice on his blog if you are issued one of these BS notices.

https://www.drivesmartbc.ca/enforcem...rder-questions



Well that doesn't work. Cain is the Supervisor

SSM_DC5 10-20-2018 01:51 PM

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mikasaur 10-20-2018 03:12 PM

"I have my sources, at RCMP, and I did ask, what was happening with VI's in lower mainland, and was told, from their higher ups, each officer on shift was recommended/required to issue 1 VT and 1 VI EACH day, as part of their "quota"

(I don't know what a VT is, never really asked), but lets just say, they were hesitant in following those recommendations."


Actually I asked my friends dad who is high up and he says this is the actions of a few lone officers and they're looking into it.

ThatKoukiKid 10-20-2018 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mikasaur (Post 8924586)
"I have my sources, at RCMP, and I did ask, what was happening with VI's in lower mainland, and was told, from their higher ups, each officer on shift was recommended/required to issue 1 VT and 1 VI EACH day, as part of their "quota"

(I don't know what a VT is, never really asked), but lets just say, they were hesitant in following those recommendations."


Actually I asked my friends dad who is high up and he says this is the actions of a few lone officers and they're looking into it.

Would love to hear a follow up on this

BABU 10-20-2018 05:30 PM

At this point I think this group of VPD are really unprofessional. They could easily just educate the public about illegal mods or questionable ride height. If it’s true they are being revengeful then they shouldn’t be a cop, they are like any other gang member just with badge.

GLOW 10-20-2018 05:35 PM

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SkunkWorks 10-20-2018 06:14 PM

Took 26 pages to get good...

Peturbo 10-20-2018 06:40 PM

Aftermarket wheels are complete BS of an excuse for VI. What about all the thousands of cars out there with aftermarket alloys and steelies being used as winter set.
Tempted to go get my vehicle inspectors license now after passing up on it months ago when asked to at work

GabAlmighty 10-20-2018 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Akinari (Post 8924525)
Muffler baffle broke so I decided to be a smartass and run 2.5" straight pipe all the way back from a catless 4-2-1 header until my new muffler arrived. Thing was deafening, needed earplugs to drive it.

Was given a warning, told that Elements should not be this loud, and to fix my muffler and went on my way. Car was also lowered with obvious camber and tons of stickers.

My how times have changed...

I hear ya. I got busted doing donuts in a parking lot in a straight pipe, rusted, murdered out old Volvo. Wrote up the ticket and everything, with the supervisor there, I think it was reckless driving, noise, and something else... Then at the last minute said he wasn't going to give me the ticket "because I want you to know that not all cops are dicks".

CorneringArtist 10-20-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peturbo (Post 8924614)
Aftermarket wheels are complete BS of an excuse for VI. What about all the thousands of cars out there with aftermarket alloys and steelies being used as winter set.
Tempted to go get my vehicle inspectors license now after passing up on it months ago when asked to at work

It's implying that the multi-billion dollar aftermarket industry is illegal in Vancouver, which is even more restrictive than CARB certification on engine parts in California. Anything that is not original equipment on a vehicle is being considered unsafe and illegal. People buy wheels all the time to use their factory wheels in the summer or winter. In addition, factory-made option wheels and lowering springs are, in VPD's current interpretation of the rules, illegal as they are not considered original equipment with the car.

At this point, there's an overreach of authority going on if the scope of cars being stopped has narrowed this much. It could get to the point where Hondas with HPD parts and Toyotas with TRD parts could be targeted if this keeps up. Hell, what will it take until 100% factory performance cars like AMG and ///M that are completely unmodified to start receiving VIs?

BABU 10-20-2018 07:25 PM

If Officer Cain can go on VPD website and tell the public that he is truly doing this for road safety then I will kneel down. But if he feels satisfied by pulling people and judging/discrimination car groups base on his little knowledge on MVA rule, he is truly a dick. Flavor of the month or not, let us know what VPD dont like to see on the road. I am sure most of us will put away our toys or tone it down.

SkunkWorks 10-20-2018 07:29 PM

With the abundance of eyes on the road the last two months, I've yet to see a POS, completely unsafe, non-roadworthy car pulled over.

If it's about road safety then surely the rusted out 1990 Tercel with no muffler, bald tires, cracked windshield and burnt out taillights is more of a danger than a well-maintained enthusiast vehicle.

T4RAWR 10-20-2018 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BABU (Post 8924602)
...They could easily just educate the public about illegal mods or questionable ride height...

Would you take the mods off your car if a police officer "educated" you about them roadside...?

:badpokerface:


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