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IMO this kind of behaviour could escalate if a driver (knowing full well they are innocent) were to be more defensive and argued with the officer. One thing leads to another and next thing you know, the officer is calling for backup due to an uncooperative and aggressive driver during a "routine traffic stop".
Getting shotted because of license plate location.
File these videos as complaints. Get these assholes off the force.
so wheres the apology that was supposed to be from dukkake
I miss the days when cops would show up to meets and talk to people to not do stupid shit.
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so wheres the apology that was supposed to be from dukkake
I miss the days when cops would show up to meets and talk to people to not do stupid shit.
I'd like to see the video of dukkake_ explaining his side of the story even though I probably won't believe it, I'd like to see what shit he has to say to back up his story.
If it takes a bunch of legitimate complaints from misrepresented infractions on stock vehicles then so be it.
That's the part that's confusing me, as you said many of us have been floating in a grey area for ages with vehicles that weren't technically legal but generally ignored unless you did something really stupid. Meaning there are loads of noncomplaint cars rolling around that they could decide to stop being lenient towards and crack down on, so why bother with stuff that's stock?
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what's the legality of a butterfly valve in the exhaust?
I know several vehicles have mechanical ones (spring holds it closed until exhaust pressure overpowers the spring), and a bunch of bikes have electric ones that are automatically controlled, though I don't know if they have to be set up so that even with the valve open the volume is legal. I've been trying to track down one off an SRT Grand Cherokee but no luck so far.
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Another one. Everyone should be writing to there MLA.
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Has anyone figured out that you HAVE to go to a dealer?
I called the other day and they said any shop with a certified inspector will work. Yet again someone is telling me because the ticket says "Toyota" dealer, it MUST go to a Toyota dealer with a certified inspector.
Getting mixed information
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Has anyone figured out that you HAVE to go to a dealer?
I called the other day and they said any shop with a certified inspector will work. Yet again someone is telling me because the ticket says "Toyota" dealer, it MUST go to a Toyota dealer with a certified inspector.
Getting mixed information
The officer has the final word of where to go.
That said some shops are still allowing the inspection even tho it says go to a dealer
I've spoken to some Media representatives in regard to this, so far most just don't think it's a story and others says there's not much that can be done.
I'll continue to reach out to see who is willing to cover this story or do some more investigative work and will update back.
So did buddy with a Porsche work for his money or did he come from daddy's money? If it's the former, effectively, a hard working middle class citizen is denied his ability to drive the car that he worked so hard for because there's no Porsche dealership that can do the inspection
Edit: Re: Media - Same as Aznboi, not much I can do, if there's no story. The general public won't agree with the narrative. Unless say we start several charity events and actually end up raising money, where the "good outweighs the bad".
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That said some shops are still allowing the inspection even tho it says go to a dealer
I've spoken to some Media representatives in regard to this, so far most just don't think it's a story and others says there's not much that can be done.
I'll continue to reach out to see who is willing to cover this story or do some more investigative work and will update back.
Have you tried looking at this from a "Consumer Reports" angle?
Officers, who aren't trained/knowledgeable in the laws (as clearly shown by that license plate video), are handing out inspection notices to stock vehicle owners based on incorrect information. The driver then has no consumer recourse and ends up running into issues like how the specified shops don't even do inspections. Consumers are left paying for unnecessary and illegitimate expenses.
Alright, thoughts, action plans... instead of scapegoating some kid as responsible for an entire "group", can we talk about actual solutions and steps to take regarding the legality of vehicles/mods and ensuring my ability to travel.
I am not interested in any media, lawsuits, or harassment claims. I am only interested in avoiding a tow box 1 order, while still holding onto a shred of my right to property and free travel. We all know the system allows peace officers to issue ANYONE a VI, and that will not change. What can I do? I read a ton on the MVA and so far my plan is
1) make sure my car is legal according to the MVA.
From what I read that is ticketable offence in the MVA, the major things modified cars do that is illegal is
- above 86db sound limit(aftermarket exhaust is LEGAL, don't have 3 inch exhaust and a 4 inch tip though)
- pieces of the car lower then the rim (splitters, slammed cars with scraping bumpers)
- wheel alignment that is visually out of alignment (yup VISIBLE CAMBER is a crime, fucking sucks but it is, keep it gentlemanly with your stance I guess). This sucks because there is no number, its only visual
- windshields, lights, tint, rubbing, obstructions to windows, obvious shit just make sure your car is good. There isn't tickets for a lot of things, but a lot of random little things are actual valid reasons your vehicle is unsafe.
2) get an alignment and get an inspection before cain gets me, keep the paperwork it in the car at all times and present it with your insurance/DL. Don't give them time to use the "I already started writing it" excuse. Show them your car is legal, and alignment is within spec (you have proof your camber is within spec, they lie when they say it looks like camber)
3) change my cars title to "modified" with ICBC. By modified I do not mean "collector" "modified collector" or "vintage" as these are all different distinctions. See: https://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registr...-vehicles.aspx I have yet to read anything about someone who has done this, someone here must have though. Basically you give a passed inspection, easy paperwork and some photos to ICBC and they review your car on a case by case basis. If you have any modifications that improve the performance of your vehicle beyond factory specs in any way, you most likely will qualify.
4) Drive like a mench, have a dashcam for evidence when you get tickets for having done all your due diligence in regards to the legality of your modified vehicle. Breathe easy knowing your car is actually as legal as it can get.
5) Dispute the notice and order when it comes (it will come either way). This is where i'm a little murky on the process, I know that it is possible to have the notice pulled back, or a 15 day extension to the inspection in special circumstances. I just don't know exactly how to do it, and would love to hear from someone who has. I assume its as simple as pleading your rational case to a judge that your car is legal, with all your paperwork and insurance and they will pull the order. Judges know the rules, cops don't, this is why I am doing this process because in court is where the law matters. File a formal complaint each time.
If it happens enough, its likely our rights are being violated. We have a charter right to property and to do with it what I wish(within the law), and I have rights that protect my privilege to drive. If an officer says I must "go to dealership" for the inspection, that is for sure a rights violation. You have a right to follow the law, the law is to use a DIF, any DIF, just needs to be a DIF. cops don't get to tell you what to do with your property... after all your just trying to follow the laws.
facts: modified cars are legal, modifying your car is your right, aftermarket exhaust can be legal, lowered cars certainly aren't illegal, cops are dicks to people with cool cars.
This shit stresses me out, after I take car of my own car I will gladly engage in some group thought to change the system.
Majority, if not all, exotics use the tow hook to mount the front plate because no one wants to drill into the front bumper for obvious reasons. I'll see if I get pulled over in my car when it arrives in a couple weeks because I'll be using a tow hook mount.
When I was at Volkswagen all our golf r were not fitted with front plates because the customer can choose if they want it drilled or buy a side plate mount. Same thing now with all my S3 and RS3. Even my parts department sells side plate mounts for all our model lines. Lol
Was a bunch of powertripping assholes. You guys seriously need to start sending letters.
Curious, what kind of camber are you running? I can at least give the cop a tiny bit of credit for easing back on his aggressive nature after realizing you weren’t giving him any aggression back. I haven’t been pulled over much, but 50% of the time they can be such dicks. Especially the women. Lol
Thanks for posting your video cho. Like the other front plate video that was posted, it's always good to hear how the officer is speaking and what triggers him/her. You could hear the cop almost get his hackles up when you starting to ask a question but then kind of backed down when he realized you weren't being confrontational and only wanted further information on how to be more compliant. With today's climate it's almost like they are on the offensive right away and your demeanor, being super nice and "hat in hand", will talk them off the ledge. Even an inkling of confrontation and it seems like they will flip a switch and be complete cunts. Either way, you're getting a VI regardless and that's just shitty.
In terms of that officers reasoning, being too low is obvious from the above pic but factory performance exhaust and camber? What a moron. Camber looks near stock and there is plenty of contact patch so for him to focus on that more than actually being too low makes him look retarded. They are reaching to the moon on these infractions and there's nothing that you can do at the time other than just take it up the tailpipe, so to speak.
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