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12-28-2018, 01:02 PM
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#1376 | | Proud to be called a RS Regular!
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero  please try that
they'll have your plate number so i hope it turns into civil forfeiture so you'll lose your fart can Civic for good | Not if you start running a permit and not displaying. Or just not run plates at all. Anyway, none of this even applies to me. I drive a stock Smart Car.
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12-28-2018, 01:20 PM
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#1377 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by yourself Not if you start running a permit and not displaying. Or just not run plates at all. Anyway, none of this even applies to me. I drive a stock Smart Car. | Car thieves have been doing this for years and still barely get caught. Most of the time its to much of a danger to the public to pursue a high speed chase in the city.
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12-28-2018, 01:39 PM
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#1378 | | Proud to be called a RS Regular!
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RCMP have a no pursuit policy due to both fleeing cars and PC’s crashing into people and killing them. https://www.merrittherald.com/new-ru...n-on-pursuits/
I believe VPD and most municipal forces call it off after a certain threshold as well.
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12-28-2018, 01:43 PM
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TL;DR Per above article
“He recalls seeing an interview with a Surrey constable who was in the secondary vehicle involved in a pursuit of a 17-year-old male driving a stolen Jeep Grand Cherokee.
The youth led the police all over Surrey, into a rural area and finally back on the freeway heading towards the Port Mann Bridge. The constable overtook the primary police car, and travelling at about 120 kilometres per hour, rammed the Cherokee off the road. The young man died when he was ejected from the Jeep.
“So the constable from Surrey was saying, ‘What did we accomplish here?’ Stolen vehicle. Great. It’s smashed. The diver’s dead and he (constable) and the other constables that were involved in this pursuit are emotionally upset. He said he’s scarred for life.
“How he ended the interview, he was saying we’re all losers. Everybody lost. And that’s what this (legislation) is trying to stop – that we’re going to pursue this vehicle at all costs and we’re going to stop it no matter how we do it.”
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12-28-2018, 07:18 PM
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#1380 | | Need my Daily Fix of RS
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Need some clarification. From what I'm reading on the MVA reg, I cant be issued a VI if I'm on a Temp operating permit?
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12-28-2018, 07:57 PM
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#1381 | | VAC Head Rotang Mod
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you can, since it's issued to the vehicle not the driver or the license plate. or that is my understanding of it.
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12-28-2018, 08:05 PM
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#1382 | | Need my Daily Fix of RS
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Vehicles operating under a Non-Resident permit (Section 6(7) of the CTA) or a Temporary Operating Permit (Division 14 of the MVAR)
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That's what I thought at first too, but I found this point under "Vehicles Excluded from the Vehicle Inspection Program".
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12-28-2018, 08:59 PM
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#1383 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by yourself RCMP have a no pursuit policy due to both fleeing cars and PC’s crashing into people and killing them. | most air pursuits in the daytime are done without your knowledge...only when stationary with your windows down might you actually hear its rotors
really, there's no point running, esp with traffic/dash cams around
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12-28-2018, 09:15 PM
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#1384 | | Proud to be called a RS Regular!
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero most air pursuits in the daytime are done without your knowledge...only when stationary with your windows down might you actually hear its rotors
really, there's no point running, esp with traffic/dash cams around |
The odds are with you. A quick look in the sky, and you’re good. They are so short staffed as it is. That helicopter is shared by all police forces.
It’s rare to see Air 1 out patrolling unless its a weekend where people are out and about.
If they are up, it would be odd that they would be using a 3.5 million dollar helicopter, that costs 2 million dollars per year to keep running, specifically for traffic duties.
Unless you are running for a good reason to the Sgt in charge, they will call off the pursuit.
Issuing a traffic violation ticket, or a VI is not usually a good enough reason alone.
Even if they do get your plate and come to your house to arrest you, good luck for them proving in court who was driving.
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12-28-2018, 09:39 PM
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#1385 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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unless they happen to be refueling, or you're in Abby and it's still in Whistler, i think you can expect one within minutes (if you run off without plates)...you're deemed a threat to public safety
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12-28-2018, 10:10 PM
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#1386 | | Proud to be called a RS Regular!
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero ...you're deemed a threat to public safety | I feel as though this is how Traffic Officers view modified cars today.
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12-29-2018, 06:47 AM
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#1387 | | Banned (ABWS)?
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Originally Posted by yourself TL;DR Per above article
“He recalls seeing an interview with a Surrey constable who was in the secondary vehicle involved in a pursuit of a 17-year-old male driving a stolen Jeep Grand Cherokee.
The youth led the police all over Surrey, into a rural area and finally back on the freeway heading towards the Port Mann Bridge. The constable overtook the primary police car, and travelling at about 120 kilometres per hour, rammed the Cherokee off the road. The young man died when he was ejected from the Jeep.
“So the constable from Surrey was saying, ‘What did we accomplish here?’ Stolen vehicle. Great. It’s smashed. The diver’s dead and he (constable) and the other constables that were involved in this pursuit are emotionally upset. He said he’s scarred for life.
“How he ended the interview, he was saying we’re all losers. Everybody lost. And that’s what this (legislation) is trying to stop – that we’re going to pursue this vehicle at all costs and we’re going to stop it no matter how we do it.” |
It's very unfortunate, and yes, in a sense, no one wins.
But I feel sad for the constables involved, yet don't really feel much for the idiot that decided it was a good idea to steal a car, and then try to flee from the police.
Maybe the real lesson here is, don't steal cars, don't flee, and buckle up.
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12-29-2018, 01:31 PM
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#1388 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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payout on the Jeep Cherokee for the rightful owner was the only win
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12-29-2018, 04:32 PM
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#1389 | | Need my Daily Fix of RS
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Few questions for you all:
1) Are engine modifications allowed? I couldn't locate it on the MVA document using a few keywords (engine modification, alteration, engine swap, displacement increase...etc). http://www.bclaws.ca/civix/document/...bc/26_58_multi
2) For those of you who got your vehicle inspected at the dealership, did you put all the stock parts back to the vehicle prior to the inspection? Or you left the aftermarket parts on?
Vehicle is lower with coilovers but meets the following requirement:
- Headlight higher than 56cm (per clause 4.05)
- A motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 4 500 kg must have a minimum clearance for all parts of it, other than the wheels in contact with the level roadway, that is no lower than the lowest point on the rim of any wheel in contact with the roadway (per clause 7.091)
- The caster, camber or toe-in of a vehicle shall not be out of adjustment to the extent that it is apparent visually. <-- Is this subjective?
3) The inspector or mechanic who inspect the vehicle, how do they determine pass or fail? Any particular standard or measurements they are using? Are they using these two forms? http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/cvse/vehicle...pdf/mv3199.pdf www.th.gov.bc.ca/forms/getFile.aspx?formId=1146
Anyone here apply this before? If yes, mind sharing your experience? Does this work for any vehicle? https://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registr...-vehicles.aspx
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12-29-2018, 05:01 PM
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#1390 | | Proud to be called a RS Regular!
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Originally Posted by TOMEI-RB26DETT Few questions for you all:
1) Are engine modifications allowed? I couldn't locate it on the MVA document using a few keywords (engine modification, alteration, engine swap, displacement increase...etc). http://www.bclaws.ca/civix/document/...bc/26_58_multi
2) For those of you who got your vehicle inspected at the dealership, did you put all the stock parts back to the vehicle prior to the inspection? Or you left the aftermarket parts on?
Vehicle is lower with coilovers but meets the following requirement:
- Headlight higher than 56cm (per clause 4.05)
- A motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 4 500 kg must have a minimum clearance for all parts of it, other than the wheels in contact with the level roadway, that is no lower than the lowest point on the rim of any wheel in contact with the roadway (per clause 7.091)
- The caster, camber or toe-in of a vehicle shall not be out of adjustment to the extent that it is apparent visually. <-- Is this subjective?
3) The inspector or mechanic who inspect the vehicle, how do they determine pass or fail? Any particular standard or measurements they are using? Are they using these two forms? http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/cvse/vehicle...pdf/mv3199.pdf www.th.gov.bc.ca/forms/getFile.aspx?formId=1146
Anyone here apply this before? If yes, mind sharing your experience? Does this work for any vehicle? https://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registr...-vehicles.aspx
Thanks! | To answer your questions:
None of this is legal. They will be happy to give you a VI.
Either offer to have sex with one of their wives while they watch, or get your tight little cornhole ready for the pounding of its, up till now, one tasked life.
Good luck.
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12-29-2018, 05:03 PM
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#1391 | | NOOB, Not Quite a Regular!
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Originally Posted by TOMEI-RB26DETT |
Yes, you are allowed to modify your vehicle. If you weren't allowed to modify your vehicle, there would be specific laws against it. There is actually a specific ICBC title classification for modified vehicles, https://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registr...-vehicles.aspx
I have been preaching this title change as a step in due process to help prevent getting a VI, nobody has spoke up about doing this though. Its not going to prevent you from getting a VI, but it should act as proof your car is safe.
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01-04-2019, 10:41 AM
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#1392 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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So, they are still going after modified cars. Saw a modified FR-S at Victoria and 40th pulled over by an unmarked SUV yesterday evening.
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01-04-2019, 11:10 AM
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#1393 | | It's like going crazy when you're already nuts
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Saw a lowered Mk4 Jetta on Kingsway and Victoria pulled over yesterday by a dark unmarked SUV as well. Probably the infamous Cain? Car looked pretty much stock except there was little to no wheel gap.
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01-04-2019, 11:57 AM
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I haven’t driven into Vancouver (from richmond) since October. That city has nothing to offer me, and clearly doesn’t want me
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01-04-2019, 01:01 PM
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#1395 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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noob question:
what happens when you get a VI? let's say car is lowered half an inch and has an axle back exhaust. To pass the VI the car has to go back to OEM height and have OEM exhaust?
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01-04-2019, 01:04 PM
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#1396 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Originally Posted by ursher noob question:
what happens when you get a VI? let's say car is lowered half an inch and has an axle back exhaust. To pass the VI the car has to go back to OEM height and have OEM exhaust? | Noob question indeed. That's exactly what needs to happen. The car needs to go back to OEM specification. Tho I think the muffler, as long as the diameter of the tips are the same, you should be ok.
When I have some time, I'll create a FAQ here.
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01-04-2019, 01:41 PM
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#1397 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Originally Posted by 320icar I haven’t driven into Vancouver (from richmond) since October. That city has nothing to offer me, and clearly doesn’t want me | Funny how I used to avoid Richmond when I had a modified car.
I remember having to honk at two VPD motorcycle cops to move out of the way so I can get into my driveway and they didn't even bat an eye at my Civic which was lowered and had catback exhaust that was really loud (just to name a few things).
They were hiding at the entrance to my driveway to catch speeders and just moved away to let me in.
It was actually Richmond RCMP that gave me a ticket for front tint (which my car didn't have and the officer just didn't understand green tint is how all cars come from the factory).
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01-04-2019, 02:55 PM
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I wonder if these officers have a baseline to determine which cars to VI? Is it safe to assume you're fucked even if you're ever so lowered and have an quiet exhaust? Are these guys putting all modified vehicles under one category? There's definitely cars that deserve VI's, but there are plenty of cars that do not violate the MVA..
Exhibit #1 
I'd say car this is pretty tamed in terms of modifications..
Exhibit #2
Compared to this car, it's stretching it (literally..) 
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01-04-2019, 03:09 PM
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#1399 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Both get VI's
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01-04-2019, 03:34 PM
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#1400 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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I really wish they would actually just look for cars without headlights on at night instead of stopping these cars for VI's. Of course, I have no idea whether they are doing this or not, but they seem too busy dealing with VI's probably to do other stuff.
Every day now, I will see at least one idiot driving with just his DRLs on. Many times, it will be more than one.
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