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Hondaracer 04-27-2022 01:16 PM

Yea that was one of the councillors arguments that a huge portion of assaults are carried out on the drug users/mentally ill/marginalized people anyways

CivicBlues 04-27-2022 02:15 PM

So we catch these repeat bums on camera destroying shit. So what? They get caught, get released the same day. They add to their rap sheet. They go back to destroying shit. They've got nothing to lose. How is getting them on camera a deterrent? Nothing will change before we put away the repeat offenders for good.

Hondaracer 04-27-2022 02:17 PM

You mean the light crime/revolving door approach of convicted felons isn’t working?

68style 04-27-2022 02:56 PM

CCTV seems like a good idea in practice and tbh I don’t see a downside but it’s not very powerful… like my building has a mail area and they decreed it safe for Amazon drops cuz there’s 3 cameras pointing at it but thieves knew packages are there and keep breaking in the front door now to steal them, they don’t care that there are cameras everywhere, a covid mask and baseball cap fixes that.

Most of the time it’s just providing a feeling of like “At least I know what happened” and you’re standing there watching the footage like that meme of Arthur with his fist clenched powerless to actually do anything lol

CivicBlues 04-27-2022 03:36 PM

We need 2-way radio monitors attached to the cameras, have someone on the other end shout out "Hey! I see you, quit it.. QUIT IT!!" if they see any vandalism or stealing of this here property!

You know like that alarm company Alarm Force. Someone call Joel Matlin!!!

Call 1-800-267-2001 ALARM FORCE!!!

Alarm Force is listed on the TSX.

T4RAWR 04-27-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9061955)
We need 2-way radio monitors attached to the cameras, have someone on the other end shout out "Hey! I see you, quit it.. QUIT IT!!" if they see any vandalism or stealing of this here property!

You know like that alarm company Alarm Force. Someone call Joel Matlin!!!

Call 1-800-267-2001 ALARM FORCE!!!

Alarm Force is listed on the TSX.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/a5/71/45/a...abb88f4445.jpg

Like when Flanders monitors all the CCTV in Springfield

GLOW 04-28-2022 08:52 AM

footage (if good quality) is useful in prosecuting if suspect(s) are caught. it may deter people but isn't a magic bullet unless it's actively monitored and responded to like the flanders pic.

our legal system once prosecuted is another story altogether. i think doing it for the majority of dt, including the tourist/party areas isn't a bad idea.

i mean when i'm at the mall i'm certain i'm on cctv, no one notices or cares

CivicBlues 04-28-2022 09:26 AM

Doesn't matter now, City Council voted against it 8-1
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ated-1.6433646

Quote:

A motion to install closed-circuit television (CCTV) in Vancouver to prevent violent crime has been shot down by city council in an 8-1 vote.

Coun. Melissa De Genova, who introduced the motion, was the only person to vote in favour of surveillance cameras in the city.


Hondaracer 04-28-2022 09:46 AM

Love how the one councillor who looked like she was 85 “I don’t want to live in a video surveillance state” yea you don’t go out period, who cares what happens on the streets

mikemhg 04-28-2022 10:26 AM

That's pretty wild they voted it down. CCTV is everywhere, have these people ever visited the UK? :lol

Even in Canada you go into a mall or most private businesses, surprise you're on camera.

As GLOW said, it would certainly help in identifying and providing evidence against some of the more heinous crimes that occur down there (one's that would elicit jail time).

CivicBlues 04-28-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9062023)
Love how the one councillor who looked like she was 85 “I don’t want to live in a video surveillance state” yea you don’t go out period, who cares what happens on the streets


Jean Swanson? She's the fucking worst. Votes down everything that wasn't "purpose built for the poor"

highfive 04-29-2022 08:08 AM

"I don't like the idea of CCTV cameras targeting criminalized people, which I know they do."

So how is this a bad thing? lol

She said she prefers community-led responses to crime, a sentiment echoed by Coun. Christine Boyle.

^RS Beatdown Crew to the rescue!

JDął 04-29-2022 08:24 AM

Why the hell is there a near 80 year old on city council?

https://c.tenor.com/io84ocL54QMAAAAC...e-fuck-out.gif

She won't even be alive in a few years to see the changes made by policy she's voting for now. Dinosaurs like her had their time and need to move the fuck on to retirement. Get some fresh blood in there, ASAP. There needs to be age and term limits on politicians at all levels.

Traum 04-29-2022 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9062128)
Why the hell is there a near 80 year old on city council?

She won't even be alive in a few years to see the changes made by policy she's voting for now. Dinosaurs like her had their time and need to move the fuck on to retirement. Get some fresh blood in there, ASAP. There needs to be age and term limits on politicians at all levels.

I think Mayor Stewart and most of the current City Council are gonna get booted out in the October civic election. There seems to be a lot of resentment towards the current municipal "leaders", and they have shown themselves to be extremely incapable in managing the City as well as its finances.

Of course, there is no guarantee that the new crop of people in City Hall won't be as incompetent as the current ones... FailFish

CivicBlues 04-29-2022 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDął (Post 9062128)
Why the hell is there a near 80 year old on city council?

https://c.tenor.com/io84ocL54QMAAAAC...e-fuck-out.gif

She won't even be alive in a few years to see the changes made by policy she's voting for now. Dinosaurs like her had their time and need to move the fuck on to retirement. Get some fresh blood in there, ASAP. There needs to be age and term limits on politicians at all levels.

Lol, wait till you find out how old the President of the United States and Speaker of the House is (2nd in line to the Presidency). Forget about Boomers holding onto power, we still have the fucking SILENT GENERATION running shit FFS.

JDął 04-29-2022 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9062152)
Lol, wait till you find out how old the President of the United States and Speaker of the House is (2nd in line to the Presidency). Forget about Boomers holding onto power, we still have the fucking SILENT GENERATION running shit FFS.

Oh I'm well aware. American establishment politics are on a whole other level. Not only are the ancient Senators and Congressmen totally corrupted by their lengths in public office but POTUS is mentally and physically unfit to hold any office. It's like watching a Weekend At Bernie's and Idiocracy mashup.

68style 04-29-2022 05:01 PM

Out of curiosity, did you think the same thing about mentally unstable and demonstrably stupid Trump who is only 4 years younger than Biden?

Or is he okay because he’s more aligned with your views?

Hondaracer 04-29-2022 05:17 PM

If you look at both unbiased I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks Biden is more mentally competent than Trump.

68style 04-29-2022 06:15 PM

I have zero problems saying that, one guy fumbles the odd word, the other one can talk for 5 minutes straight without making a single coherent thought, is obsessed with windmills and thinks repeating 5 words in the right order from memory means he’s a genius.

But okay. Low standards I guess?

You honestly don’t remember your brain hurting from a Trump quote of some sort every single day for 4 years? Jesus

Great68 04-29-2022 07:24 PM

I don't think Trump had an understanding of the responsibilities that the president's job was supposed to entail his entire term

Unless you define mental competency as gross narcissim, then yeah

Infiniti 04-29-2022 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9062037)
Jean Swanson? She's the fucking worst. Votes down everything that wasn't "purpose built for the poor"

Colleen Hardwick is right up there as well

whitev70r 04-29-2022 09:56 PM

Hazel McCallion takes the cake. Used to be mayor of Mississauga ... 101 years old and was recently appointed special advisor to U of T.

https://www.utoronto.ca/news/age-101...pecial-adviser

https://www.utoronto.ca/sites/defaul...87028-crop.jpg

68style 04-29-2022 10:05 PM

You know being old doesn’t mean you’re incapable of being good at anything right?

Tegra_Devil 04-30-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9062197)
You know being old doesn’t mean you’re incapable of being good at anything right?

Sounds like something someone old would say.....

68style 04-30-2022 09:10 AM

I’m no spring chicken, but I’m nowhere near MG1 :)


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